From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #46 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, April 21 2001 Volume 01 : Number 046 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] Question about making CD covers (Macintosh) [Larry Tucker] RE: [loud-fans] Question about making CD covers (Macintosh) [Dennis_McGre] Re: [loud-fans] LF website mention in ICE ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello [Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com] [loud-fans] weakest drink [jenny grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts [Steve Holtebeck ] [loud-fans] gemm [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts ["Andrew Hamlin" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Question about making CD covers (Macintosh) |-----Original Message----- |From: Elizabeth Setler [mailto:elizabeth@fringehead.com] |Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:24 AM |To: loud-fans@smoe.org |Subject: [loud-fans] Question about making CD covers (Macintosh) | |There's gotta be an obvious way to do this. I know many people do it |successfully all the time. I suspect many people on this list do, |even, which is why I'm asking. If anyone can give me any suggestions |or point me to any useful websites or applications, I would be |eternally obliged; I'm now simultaneously obsessed and brain-fried, |which is NEVER a good combination. I'm willing to resort to bribery |if need be. :-) | |Thanks! |-- |Elizabeth You can try this free software from www.neato.com , they have a Mac version I think. It's pretty simple, but that does make it good for a quick and easy cover....and it is free. They just would like you do buy their printable media, but obviously you can print on anything printable. It's also good for j-card cassette labels...we still remember cassettes don't we? - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:37:00 -0400 From: Dennis_McGreevy@praxair.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Question about making CD covers (Macintosh) Mr. Tucker asks: ...we still remember cassettes don't we? <><><><><><><><> Yeah, sure, the short-lived project launched by the crew who were backup singers in the tragically brief solo career of Mama Cass. Their debut, "Dream A Little Dream of Us" remains, IMO, a milestone of close harmony in pop music; virtually unique for the period. Bob Ezrin, producer of their commercially ill-fated early '80s comeback attempt "Frozen Cassettes", a new wave concept album whose storyline featured the trio as corporate acquisition managers crossing Antarctica with a band of primitive futuristic ice warriors, once described them as "like the Jordanaires, only they're hot women". How could we forget? I remember incredible love, - --Dennis P.S. John Cale is playing at some club in Evanston tonight, WHOOOO! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:12:44 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF website mention in ICE >From: Roger Winston >New BOC album coming out on June 5th: CURSE OF THE HIDDEN MIRROR. The >Mockers album that Mitch Easter produced is finally coming out on that date >also. As is the new Radiohead, Adam Schmitt, Starflyer 59, Rufus >Wainwright and Steve Wynn (2 disc set!). Oh yeah, and a new Asia album >called AURA. Whew! The new Steve Wynn is out now and his possibly his best work to date. This will make 2 albums in one year, he also did one with a Spanish band Australian Blonde. Not to mention the twelve songs he did on a subscription basis through Emusic. And his last one MY MIDNIGHT is barely a year old I think. What is that man running on! Hoping to make the 80 mile venture over to Winston-Salem tomorrow night to catch Shalini's first local show in a while. I hear they have a lot of new songs and are a stripped down 3 piece band now. - -Larry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:07:26 EDT From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello I stumbled across the recording Anne Sofie Von Otter Meets Elvis Costello FOR THE STARS yesterday. Any feedback on this disc would be super. M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:20:25 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF website mention in ICE "Larry Tucker" on 2001/04/20 Fri AM 11:12:44 MDT wrote: > The new Steve Wynn is out now and his possibly his best work to date. ICE lied when they said it's coming out on June 5th! Thanks for the heads-up, Larry. CDNow has it listed as coming out next week, so I pre-ordered. How did you get it early - was it the import version? > Hoping to make the 80 mile venture over to Winston-Salem tomorrow night to > catch Shalini's first local show in a while. I hear they have a lot of new > songs and are a stripped down 3 piece band now. Signs Point to Yes. Later. --Rog Roger Winston/Reign delle Rane ``Not every candle burns'' http://www.reignoffrogs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:32:26 -0400 From: Larry Tucker Subject: RE: [loud-fans] LF website mention in ICE |-----Original Message----- |From: Roger Winston [mailto:rwinston@tde.com] |Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:20 PM |To: Last Honest Train to Hallucination Town |Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF website mention in ICE |Sensitivity: Confidential | | |"Larry Tucker" on 2001/04/20 Fri AM |11:12:44 MDT wrote: | |> The new Steve Wynn is out now and his possibly his best work to date. | |ICE lied when they said it's coming out on June 5th! Thanks |for the heads-up, Larry. CDNow has it listed as coming out |next week, so I pre-ordered. How did you get it early - was |it the import version? No, not the import though that has been out several weeks. I got it direct from www.innerstate.com . They have it in advance of the street date. Check their *New Releases*. |> Hoping to make the 80 mile venture over to Winston-Salem |tomorrow night to |> catch Shalini's first local show in a while. I hear they |have a lot of new |> songs and are a stripped down 3 piece band now. | |Signs Point to Yes. If I make it I'll give a brief report, although Crooked Fingers is playing here the same night, and I don't have to drive far to that so.....stay tuned. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:46:24 -0700 (MST) From: Dennis Subject: Re: [loud-fans] weakest link (ns) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, John Cooper wrote: > P.S. I'm not really leaving. No one annoying ever really leaves. I didn't know you were still here! - -- - --- Dennis Sacks dennis@illusions.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:49:07 -0500 From: Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello Anne Sofie Von Otter is a classical singer, and Elvis got her to sing some pop tunes, so her singing may seem over-mannered to some.. Elvis doesn't apprear on the album much(although he produced and arranged the whole thing), I believe he sings 5 duets with her... The songs range from Tom Waits (Broken Bicycles) to Beach Boys (2 from Pet Sounds) and several Elvis penned tunes (2 excellent brand new ones!). The CD is uniformly mellow, mostly drumless, and I find it very beaufitul... If you couldn't handle "The Juliet Letters' and 'Painted From Memory' makes you wretch, perhaps you should stay away.... Wes MarkWStaples@aol.com@smoe.org on 04/20/2001 11:07:26 AM Sent by: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org To: loud-fans@smoe.org cc: Subject: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello I stumbled across the recording Anne Sofie Von Otter Meets Elvis Costello FOR THE STARS yesterday. Any feedback on this disc would be super. M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:57:30 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: [loud-fans] weakest drink Dennis wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, John Cooper wrote: > > > P.S. I'm not really leaving. No one annoying ever really leaves. > > I didn't know you were still here! well, i thought i was here and i wasn't! somehow i disappeared from the roster the middle of last week and had a LOT of catching up to do in the archives. Jen who lives in a reasonably beautiful part of WV, grew up in kudzu infested AL (where carbonated beverages are "coke") where i could understand the people perfectly well even tho my family came from MI (where carbonated beverages are "pop"). when i lived in austin, TX i could never get used to them calling it all "soda water". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:29:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 MarkWStaples@aol.com wrote: > I stumbled across the recording Anne Sofie Von Otter Meets Elvis Costello FOR > THE STARS yesterday. Any feedback on this disc would be super. I agree - some good, coruscating guitar feedback would improve it immeasurably. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, who hasn't actually heard it but has allergies to classical singers doing pop (although he likes Pavarotti's cameo on that Passengers song..."Miss Sarajevo"?) J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::To be the center of the universe, don't orbit things:: __Scott Miller__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:52:25 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts Does anyone know of a website where I can find information about chart positions of singles and albums from days gone by? The Billboard site only lists current charts and "10 years ago today" and "20 years ago today." There's no way to search charts by date or by artist. At the moment, I'm trying to settle an argument about whether the Ramones ever hit the top 40, but I also think it would be useful to be able to definitively say things like "The first Ultimate Spinach album actually made it to #34 on the charts, so any dealer who says it's rare is trying to rip you off." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:36:53 -0700 From: Tim_Walters@digidesign.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts >I also think it would be useful to be able to definitively say things >like "The first Ultimate Spinach album actually made it to #34 on the >charts, so any dealer who says it's rare is trying to rip you off." gemm.com lists a copy of ULTIMATE SPINACH at $3.99, but there's something called ULTIMATE SPINACHE at $32.00, and an ULTIMATE SPINAHCE at $28.00. That's one expensive "e". For what it's worth, I get more pleasure from the ineffable satisfaction of having a band called Ultimate Spinach in my collection than I do from listening to the record. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:05:14 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts gemm.com lists a copy of ULTIMATE SPINACH at $3.99, but there's something called ULTIMATE SPINACHE at $32.00, and an ULTIMATE SPINAHCE at $28.00. That's one expensive "e". >>>>>>>>. Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually concluded a sale on gemm? I ask because whenever I try (usually when I'm desparate and have exhausted all other sources) I place the order and then never hear anything about it again. Just wondering. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:04:40 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Aaron Milenski wrote: > Does anyone know of a website where I can find information about chart > positions of singles and albums from days gone by? The Billboard site only I'd love to be gainsaid, but I think the folks who sell expensive books with this info have been pretty effective at keeping if off the net in any usefully-structured, searchable fashion. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:20:51 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts Aaron Milenski wrote: > Does anyone know of a website where I can find information about chart > positions of singles and albums from days gone by? The Billboard site only > lists current charts and "10 years ago today" and "20 years ago today." > There's no way to search charts by date or by artist. At the moment, I'm > trying to settle an argument about whether the Ramones ever hit the top 40, > but I also think it would be useful to be able to definitively say things > like "The first Ultimate Spinach album actually made it to #34 on the > charts, so any dealer who says it's rare is trying to rip you off." I don't know of anyplace to find Billboard charts online, but for definitive discographies (with chart position of singles/albums) of obscure 60s bands like Ultimate Spinach, the online library at Borderline Books is my bible! http://www.borderlinebooks.com/library.html The first Ultimate Spinach album ULTIMATE SPINACH 1 (MGM4538) made it to #34 on the charts, but their second album BEHOLD AND SEE (MGM4570) only made it to #198, and their third album ULTIMATE SPINACH didn't chart at all. There's a BEST OF ULTIMATE SPINACH cd coming out next month too! And the Ramones never hit the US top 40. Their highest charting single "Rockaway Beach" made it to #66, and their highest charting album, END OF THE CENTURY, made it to #44. They probably cracked the UK top 40 though. The "Billboard A to Z" sometimes helps to answer THOSE burning questions: http://www.billboard.com/atoz/r/ramones.asp Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:25:51 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] arcGEMM >Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually concluded a sale on gemm? I >ask because whenever I try (usually when I'm desparate and have exhausted >all other sources) I place the order and then never hear anything about >it again. I use GEMM quite frequently, and I'd say that about 70-80% of the time I actually get what I try to buy (and I have yet to be mistakenly charged for something that wasn't available.) There are a few keys to making sure your transaction will work. NEVER buy from anyone who says something is backordered or "not currently in stock" or "in stock, but uncertain." Also, it helps to check the listing date for the item you're buying. Usually if the date is more than a few months old, it's a sign that the dealer never updates their listings. GEMM also has a star-rating system that is helpful in figuring out whether a given dealer is reliable or not. In any case, you should always get e-mails after you order something, first one that says "transaction approved" and then the key one, one that says either "item confirmed available" or "item not available." Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:30:01 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] gemm On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Dana L Paoli wrote: > Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually concluded a sale on gemm? I > ask because whenever I try (usually when I'm desparate and have exhausted > all other sources) I place the order and then never hear anything about > it again. well, it's not a transaction with gemm, it's a transaction with a retailer listed through gemm, and they vary widely. i've bought stuff, via gemm, from: SONIC RECOLLECTIONS NORMAN RECORDS COSMIC SONG AOR TREASURES ROCKHOUSE RECORDS W.M.I. DISTRIBUTION INC And been very happy. Norman deserves special mention, very prompt, friendly & cheap! for an international order. WMI Distro had something I'd been looking for for *years* w/o success. AOR Treasures and Cosmic Song (in France!) hooked me up with longlost vinyl treasures from my metal head days, like Facedancer's _This World_, which I think I will someday record one or even two covers from -- "Timebomb" could have fallen off of the first 20/20 record. On the other hand, RECORD BREAKERS USA took my money, shipped the wrong thing, and did not respond to followup e-mails. A number of vendors rpelied that the requested item was out of stock, and like Dana, I think I had a couple never repsond (but not charge me). Overall hit rate for me is probably around 60%. - -- d. np gbv jellyfish reflector - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:34:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Aaron Milenski wrote: > but I also think it would be useful to be able to definitively say things > like "The first Ultimate Spinach album actually made it to #34 on the > charts, so any dealer who says it's rare is trying to rip you off." Sorry I can't help you with your actual query (as usual), but actually, the fact that a record made the charts at one time is no guarantee at all that it's not rare today. In fact, I'd argue that uncollected singles by one-hit wonders and the only popular album by any given band might stand a better chance of being *more* rare than contemporary recordings that were less popular. (Actually, I'm talking about the tracks I mention in the last paragraph...) Sure, lots of people bought the single - but, as most buyers of popular singles, they probably didn't invest much in it beyond its sell-by date, and it probably gathered dust in a box full o' 45s for years, got clawed up by the family cat or dog, or shattered into pieces by an angry two-year-old. But less popular records are, generally, more likely to be purchased by people who actually care about them: I might even bet that it's easier to find a vintage copy of, say, the first VU album than some of the hit singles of that time. (Of course, how many folks who bought that album would then turn around and sell it?) On a related note, ever notice how some popular hits get played years later on the oldies stations, but others evaporate completely? I was reminded of this by hearing some garage band's cover of "Crazy Horses" by the Osmonds (?!?) - whose original I haven't heard for god knows how long. And yet, it was, apparently, a hit single in 1972. I found this out by scouring the web - and interestingly, nothing of the Osmonds' catalog remains in print except hits collections - while any number of that era's obscurities *are* available. (I suppose this really means the rarest songs are deep cuts on albums by singles artists...not that I'm really jonesin' to hear what's going on on track 3, side 2 of the fourth Osmonds album...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, wondering if this is the first time those Mormon boys have been mentioned here... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::To be the bad apple of the universe, don't spoil things:: __Scott Osmond__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:33:13 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts >At the moment, I'm >trying to settle an argument about whether the Ramones ever hit the top 40, Many of of Joey's obituaries mentioned the Ramones never going top 40, and while it's certainly possible for a glitch of that magnitude to stick somewhere and then spread, I have to admit I believed it. A curious item, however: one obituary said Joey was the last of the original Ramones by the time the band called it quits. I recall three Ramones drummers, and two bassists, but I thought Johnny stayed in 'til the everlasting end, his non-relationship with Joey notwithstanding. Anybody have the real deal on this? Doing my part to raise "Bug-Eyed Meanderings" memeward, Andy "I'm sure you've seen stories like the one I'm going to relate, but this one really irked me. Some years ago 103 people in a shopping center in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida were asked to identify a document. Eighty-seven percent didn't recognize the Declaration of Independence. Now let's be scientific. Given southern Florida's demographics, it's almost certain that many of those polled were older persons. Maybe their eyesight isn't quite what it used to be. Do you remember how John Hancock signed the Declaration? In extra large letters so that King George III wouldn't have to put on his spectacles to read it. What does that tell you about the type size of the rest of the document? Hey, I don't always read the small print, either." - --from ISAAC ASIMOV'S BOOK OF FACTS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:33:39 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] billboard archives You can become a member of billboard.com, and research up to five charts/month for $15. and get them for between 0.50 and 1.00 after that. - -- d. np squatweiler _horsepower_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:47:52 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts >On a related note, ever notice how some popular hits get played years >later on the oldies stations, but others evaporate completely? I was >reminded of this by hearing some garage band's cover of "Crazy Horses" by >the Osmonds (?!?) - whose original I haven't heard for god knows how long. >And yet, it was, apparently, a hit single in 1972 Yes, the CRAZY HORSES album earned high praise from Chuck Eddy in STAIRWAY TO HELL, and the Utah Saints remixed that song (though I can't say if they ever charted with it) about six years back. Incidentally, if I recall correctly, Ultimate Spinach was part of the mostly-contrived "Bosstown Sound" movement...were Orpheus and Earth Opera the other two bands? My copy of THE PLAN safely in yonder temperature-controlled vault, Andy "There's been much concern in recent years about the danger posed to artists' health by some of the materials they use in their work. But when the British government banned a paint color called Indian Yellow back in 1908, it had nothing to do with protecting artists. This color was produced by feeding mangos to cows and then collecting their urine, from which were derived the magnesium and calcium salts used to make the paint. (Don't try that at home!) The government banned the color because officials thought it unfair to make cows pig out on mangos. So why couldn't they feed them bananas instead?" - --from JUST CURIOUS, JEEVES, by Jack Mingo and Erin Barrett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:57:20 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts >Incidentally, if I recall correctly, Ultimate Spinach was part of the >mostly-contrived "Bosstown Sound" movement...were Orpheus and Earth >Opera >the other two bands? >>>>>>>>> Does anyone want to talk more about this? I'm all ears, and highly interested in hearing more about Earth Opera. I have their first (self titled) album, and it's really, really great. Usually, in cases like that, I try to follow the family tree to find more good stuff, but Earth Opera's family tree seems to lead, oddly, to the Grateful Dead and bluegrass. Do those Spinach guys and/or Orpheus sound anything like the Operas?? Also, I read at allmusic that Earth Opera did the soundtracks to two movies, which are supposed to be the cat's meow. Needless to say, I've not found either. I'd describe the band, but aside from noting that their lead singer sounds a lot like Tom Verlaine, I can never seem to come up with a good comparison. Oh well. I'm off to the city to pick up the new Unwound. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:40:54 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts At 02:47 PM 4/20/01 -0700, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >Incidentally, if I recall correctly, Ultimate Spinach was part of the >mostly-contrived "Bosstown Sound" movement...were Orpheus and Earth Opera >the other two bands? The "Bosstown Sound" scam was entirely contrived, a transparent attempt by MGM Records to create an east coast version of the Haight-Ashbury scene. I guess technically only the bands on MGM were "Bosstown" bands, because that was just label jive. The Ultimate Spinach, Orpheus, Beacon Street Union, and Chamaeleon (sic) Church (with one Cornelius Crane Chase on drums and keyboards) were on MGM, but Earth Opera and others now loosely bound under that name were on other labels. To answer Dana's question, no, none of the "Bosstown" groups sound much like Earth Opera. Orpheus and Chamaeleon Church fall somewhere between Harpers Bizarre and the Left Banke. Ultimate Spinach were a freaky psychedelic band with female vocals and proto-prog leanings. Beacon Street Union were pretty standard acid rock, although Charity, who's looking over my shoulder as I write, points out that their lead singer, John Lincoln Wright, later formed a blue-grass group called the Sourmash Boys. (Jazz-bluegrass mandolin maestro David Grisman was in Earth Opera, incidentally.) Erik Lindgren's Arf Arf Records has reissued a ton of rare stuff by Boston psych-era bands. One of my favorites is a CD combining an album a group called the Flat Earth Society did as a premium for Waleeco candy bars with a record called SPACE KIDS by Willie Alexander's legendary The Lost, which is a really weird children's sci-fi story with garage-pop songs. (The title track *rocks*!) Another good one is A HEAVY DOSE OF LITE PSYCH. These records suggest that the best groups in Boston weren't the ones MGM snapped up. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:33:09 -0400 From: jenny grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts Dana L Paoli wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually concluded a sale on gemm? I > ask because whenever I try (usually when I'm desparate and have exhausted > all other sources) I place the order and then never hear anything about > it again. > > Just wondering. Dana, my experience has been just like yours. I don't even bother with them anymore. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:45:17 -0400 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts Thanks to Stewart for the Bosstown rundown. Strangely enough, in my failed quest to buy the new Unwound album, I found myself beseiged by Ultimate Spinach reissues. I managed to resist their siren call, with great effort. I'm very sad that the Unwound album seems to be temporarily missing, as I have awfully high hopes for it. I've been waiting for years for them to acquire an interest in songwriting, as they've already got a great sound, and all reports indicate that on "Leaves Turn Inside You" they've finally done it. The clip I've heard, "December" gave me minor goose bumps when I checked it out on the Kill Rock Stars site. I did, however, find a copy of the PVC version of Kim Fowley's "Sunset Boulevard" which comes with a lyric sheet. Actually, a great lyric sheet, because it not only notes the lyrics, but also the various noises and parenthetical comments that Kim makes, e.g. "Good-bye. (eh eh ugh) Don't believe a word of it. It's a hustle, man." Unfortunately, it gets a lot of the other words wrong, but I'm going to assume that Kim was making a reference to Japanese lyric translations in the future. All of which means that I can set my old copy of "Sunset Boulevard" free. If anyone wants a free copy of, IMHO, one of the top ten albums of all time, which has never been on CD, feel free to write off list. - --dana ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:52:26 -0700 From: mbowen@samoyedsoft.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] archived billboard charts On Fri, 20 April 2001, Stewart Mason wrote: > The "Bosstown Sound" scam was entirely contrived, a transparent attempt by > MGM Records to create an east coast version of the Haight-Ashbury scene. I > guess technically only the bands on MGM were "Bosstown" bands, because that > was just label jive. The Ultimate Spinach, Orpheus, Beacon Street Union, > and Chamaeleon (sic) Church (with one Cornelius Crane Chase on drums and > keyboards) were on MGM, but Earth Opera and others now loosely bound under > that name were on other labels. I seem to remember that Greg Hawkes, who later ended up playing keyboards with the Cars, was a member of Orpheus. MB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:13:25 EDT From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Von Otter/Costello In a message dated 4/20/01 12:57:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Wes_Vokes@eFunds.Com writes: << Anne Sofie Von Otter is a classical singer, and Elvis got her to sing some pop tunes, so her singing may seem over-mannered to some.. Elvis doesn't apprear on the album much(although he produced and arranged the whole thing), I believe he sings 5 duets with her... The songs range from Tom Waits (Broken Bicycles) to Beach Boys (2 from Pet Sounds) and several Elvis penned tunes (2 excellent brand new ones!). The CD is uniformly mellow, mostly drumless, and I find it very beaufitul... If you couldn't handle "The Juliet Letters' and 'Painted From Memory' makes you wretch, perhaps you should stay away.... Wes >> Thankyou Wes for the information. I'm sort of interested, but I have many other things on a wish list I would like to get first. If Elvis played more of a part in the recording I would bump this record up to high priority in purchasing. nh (now hating) Steve Malkmus--this album is like post Go-Go's Belinda Carlisle to me...the vocals are right, but the moment is lost...and the music is wrong. He needs Pavement for the chemistry to be right in my opinon, plus he needs for it to be 1992 again, and that isn't gonna happen. This may end up in the trade in for cash stack. I wanted to get over my preconceived notions about this album and be open-minded and prove myself wrong, but I think I was right. I think it's pretty bad, and now I'm out fifteen bucks. 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