From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #20 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, April 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Memento [Dan Sallitt ] Re: [loud-fans] Doves, Creeper Lagoon [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:22:53 -0500 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Memento > >> I'm not a fan of MEMENTO, but the backwards storytelling has a somewhat > >> different effect here than in other films: the protagonist of the film > >> doesn't know what has happened recently in his life, and the backwards > >> structure puts the audience in the same dilemma as each scene begins. - > >> Dan > > I'm curious-what didn't you like about it? I think it did a pretty good job > of creating a feeling of the present with just few links to the past with > just notes or photos. It's a little gimmicky but I enjoyed it. Spoilers! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The gimmick got in the way of the movie for me: Nolan found a new way to tell a film noir story, but the hero struck me as not much more than a plot device. And the ending seemed to me to make nonsense of what little characterization had gone before. In general, the people in the film seemed gimmicky and unreal to me: the evil-for-fun femme fatale, the cop who uses the hero as an investigative tool, the wife who commits suicide to test her husband's honesty. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:35:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Doves, Creeper Lagoon On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Stewart Mason wrote: > At 12:43 PM 4/2/01 -0700, Jon Gabriel wrote: > >This weekend, MTV featured an "M2 Artists to Watch" > >special. I liked the bands Doves and Creeper Lagoon. > >Does anyone have information on them? Are their latest > >albums worth purchasing? > > Creeper Lagoon's new album isn't out for a couple weeks yet, but I really > liked their last one, I BECOME SMALL AND GO. It sort of sounded to me like > what Dinosaur Jr. would have sounded like if J. Mascis had put down the > bong long enough to properly finish his songs and pay attention to the > production, with maybe just a hint of Beck in the way they use samples and > beats. Sounds right. Didn't they open for That One Band We Don't Discuss on the DFD tour? > Doug's namechecks of Radiohead and Soul Asylum suggests that the new one > sounds a *lot* different, and the references scare me. They have an EP that came out last year - title escapes me - but it sounds nothing like either Radiohead (whom I like) or Soul Asylum (whom I once liked, until they were clearly replaced by the same evil aliens who did in Rod Stewart sometime in the mid-seventies). It is less beatsy/productiony and more rocky than the full-length, but also with hints of psychedelia. I'm certainly intrigued enough to check out the new one when it's released (or sooner, if I can find the Chicago wormhole that McGreevy found...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Watson! Something's afoot...and it's on the end of my leg:: __Hemlock Stones__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:51:14 -0400 From: "Brett Milano" Subject: [loud-fans] RE: new Soft Boys songs ^^The other new ones include "Evil Guy", "Sudden Town", and "Mind Is Connected". There's a fifth one too: "Pulse of My Heart." And I hope all the Soft Boys fans out there have been checking the official site (www.underwatermoonlight.com), run by the very generous Matthew Seligman. There's a full album's worth of live MP3's up there from various stops on the tour, including the aforementioned new song (but not "Mr. Kennedy" yet, alas). Speaking as a semi-unbiased fan, I think they were unbelievably good at the show I saw (in Boston), but he also has some live MP3's up from 1980, so compare and contrast... ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #20 ******************************