From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #17 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, March 31 2001 Volume 01 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] loud-fans will be down Thursday [Dennis ] RE: [loud-fans] Weapon Of Choice ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] Attention Go Go's fans [=?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= ] Re: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] [loud-fans] Salomanda Paloganda [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Salomanda Paloganda ["Andrew Hamlin" ] [loud-fans] Two tech questions [AWeiss4338@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:00:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Subject: Re: [loud-fans] loud-fans will be down Thursday On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, BotServerCentral-Sector:Mail a/k/a 2 Fs wrote: > 1. Spend the downtime composing posts to the list, especially figuring out > how to make them exceed the character limit. check > 2. Bother Dennis about why didn't my messages come through. check > 4. Write personal e-mails to everyone on loudfans whose address I know, > bugging them with my latest lame attempts at wit, bad puns, and early > April Fools' Day pranks about Pavement's heavy metal album... and this is different from your normal behavior how? hehehe - -- - --- Dennis Sacks dennis@illusions.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:11:02 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: [loud-fans] Weapon Of Choice Jeffrey wrote: > Fatboy Slim (featuring Bootsy Collins) "Weapon of Choice": > Less "big beat" than I'd expect from the Slim One - actually, the > beat sorta reminds me of Yello, of all people. Some of the samples are > from sort of loungey funk - I'm not sure I hear Bootsy that much, but > this works pretty well. Got to see the video clip to this track yesterday. It features cool dude Christopher Walken dancing and prancing about what looks like a deserted luxury hotel. A fun to watch video clip. There should be more of those... ;) Toodlepip, - -Stef Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:26:45 +0100 From: "Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau > At 03:56 PM 3/29/01 -0700, Stewart Mason wrote: > > >Doesn't Nick Saloman live in Walthamstow? To which Matthew replied: > Yes indeed. I can see Phil smiling as he read Stewart's post - at the Posies gig the other week we were talking about the upcoming appearance of Anton Barbeau sharing a bill with Nick at the 12 Bar Club and Phil remarked that as soon as he mentions that he lives in Walthamstow to a music-savvy person they will say "Hey, isn't that where NS lives?". Curiously neither Phil or I (and I live about a mile from Phil) have heard a note of Nick's music... I unfortunatley didn't get to see Anton but when I was in Minus Zero the other week, I heard that Anton had been in the week before and impressed both Bill and Mick in the shop by having an ex-girlfriend with him whose hair is on the cover of TTOOL. "Hey, you'll never guess who we had in the shop last week!" Mick exclaimed to me. Ian np The Orgone Box (and witnessing the return of swirly stereo, guitars panning across the soundstage, yea!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:02:33 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman At 09:26 AM 3/30/01 +0100, Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett wrote: >I can see Phil smiling as he read Stewart's post - at the Posies gig the >other week we were talking about the upcoming appearance of Anton Barbeau >sharing a bill with Nick at the 12 Bar Club and Phil remarked that as soon >as he mentions that he lives in Walthamstow to a music-savvy person they >will say "Hey, isn't that where NS lives?". Curiously neither Phil or I >(and I live about a mile from Phil) have heard a note of Nick's music... Oh, for shaaaaaaaaaaaame! The Bevis Frond can be maddeningly inconsistent at times, and you should especially be warned off the early records if you have a problem with 15-minute guitar-wank instrumentals, but at his best, nobody can top Nick Saloman, especially when it comes to good old psych-beat-pop. NEW RIVER HEAD is probably the classic--the title track is Nick's finest song ever--but the recent VALEDICTORY SONGS is nearly its equal, and is probably his most concise and song-oriented album yet. Recording in the studio with a real band (ex-Hawkwind bassist Adrian Shaw and Gong/Camel/Chrys&themums drummer Andy Ward) makes it sound a lot more "live" than his one-man-band DIY records do. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:39:22 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Weapon Of Choice Christopher Walken is one of America's great musical theatre actors. Never-the-less, I was stunned by his hoofin' in this video. Fatboy Slim, Spike Jonez and Christopher Walken all benefit from this union. It is great! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Stef Hurts Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:11 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: [loud-fans] Weapon Of Choice Jeffrey wrote: > Fatboy Slim (featuring Bootsy Collins) "Weapon of Choice": > Less "big beat" than I'd expect from the Slim One - actually, the > beat sorta reminds me of Yello, of all people. Some of the samples are > from sort of loungey funk - I'm not sure I hear Bootsy that much, but > this works pretty well. Got to see the video clip to this track yesterday. It features cool dude Christopher Walken dancing and prancing about what looks like a deserted luxury hotel. A fun to watch video clip. There should be more of those... ;) Toodlepip, - -Stef Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stef=20Hurts?= Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Attention Go Go's fans MarkWStaples@aol.com wrote: > Only complaints are that I couldn't hear Belinda's vocals (dang, she > looked fine...just wish the skirt was above the knee, and I think she's > gained some weight! Also, I liked Dave better when he was on later and > smoked cigars. He's lost something, but I can't say exactly what. Weight? Toodlepip, - -Stef Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:57:10 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau At 09:26 AM 3/30/01 +0100, Ian Runeckles & Angela Bennett wrote: >I can see Phil smiling as he read Stewart's post - at the Posies gig the >other week we were talking about the upcoming appearance of Anton Barbeau >sharing a bill with Nick at the 12 Bar Club and Phil remarked that as soon >as he mentions that he lives in Walthamstow to a music-savvy person they >will say "Hey, isn't that where NS lives?". Curiously neither Phil or I >(and I live about a mile from Phil) have heard a note of Nick's music... For interested parties, The Anton/Nick&Ade show from the 12 Bar Club last weekend is archived at: http://onlinetvuk.com/recenttenuk.asp The links don't work for me, but maybe they will for someone else. From the blurb on the site: "Nick and Ade make up two thirds of the highly influential psychedelic band The Bevis Frond. Nick's songs have been covered by Teenage Fanclub, Julian[sic] Hatfield and Elliot Smith." Which NS/BF songs were covered by Teenage Fanclub and Elliott Smith? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:51:16 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau From the blurb on the site: "Nick and Ade make up two thirds of the highly influential psychedelic band The Bevis Frond. Nick's songs have been covered by Teenage Fanclub, Julian[sic] Hatfield and Elliot Smith." >>>>>>>>>> I'm struck by the fact that someone is missing from this blurb. I wonder if Courtney Love was the blurb writer. - --dana np: Band of Susans/Peel Sessions ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:40:46 EST From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] we're only making plans for apples I wanted to get this out to the list before I head out on my day off to pay my property tax ($95 bucks on a '92 Ford Escort??? They better be using protection 'cause I'm oh so getting screwed). What better place can one think of being than in line at the tax collector's office, then off across town to the DMV? Yay. This in the newest issue of Magnet, with Bobby Sherman (aka Steven Malkmus) on the cover: Apples & Oranges and Lemons In a meeting of brilliant pop minds, Apples in Stereo leader Robert Schneider and XTC's Andy Partridge have begun a transatlantic collaboration, writing songs over the phone. The partnership began last year, when Partridge was sent some Apples in Stereo records by the band's label SpinArt, in hopes of having the U.K. songsmith contribute to Schneider's upcoming side project, Orchestre Fantastique. Sure enough, Partridge was interested. "Right away, he made me feel very comfortable," says Schneider, a devout XTC fan. "I was incredibly nervous. It goes really quickly, we're throwing ideas back and forth. It's like a pingpong match or something like that: pop pingpong. A couple of weeks ago, he was like, 'Let's write a song that's all sevenths with two bridges.'" Over the course of about a dozen phone calls, the pair has penned 15 songs, some of which Schneider hopes to record with Partridge this year. "It's definitely different from what either of us does," says Schneider. "It's in that 'Waterloo Sunset' kind of range. It's really cool." Have a good weekend everyone. While you're out seeing shows and having fun, think of me at work from 7pm-7am Saturday and Sunday nights drinking coffee and trying to catch up on school assignments, in my polyester uniform (blue collar work does suck...the price we pay for stupid decisions made in youth) - -Mark, who plans to get the new Black Box Recorder today and the new Of Montreal comes out Tuesday! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:40:13 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] we're only making plans for apples > -Mark, who plans to get the new Black Box Recorder today I liked this already, but the two UK b-sides added to the US versions as bonus tracks are especially good, in case anybody needed just a tiny amount of additional incentive to buy the album... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:31:29 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau >I'm struck by the fact that someone is missing from this blurb. I wonder >if Courtney Love was the blurb writer. Right. If anyone's puzzling, Mr. Saloman's also collaborated with the much-loved/much-loathed Mary Lou Lord, notably for Mary Lou's 1998 album GOT NO SHADOW, my number one album of that year. Now you know which side I'm on, Andy "Man, I got an idiot slaying knife, it's got a +9 against idiots!" - --.sig from Michelle Gamboa Stenson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:45:41 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Weapon Of Choice >Christopher Walken is one of America's great musical theatre actors. >Never-the-less, I was stunned by his hoofin' in this video. Fatboy Slim, >Spike Jonez and Christopher Walken all benefit from this union. Walken grew up on the dying dregs of the vaudeville circuit, and later studied dance at Hofstra University, explaining his underappreciated (and underexposed) talents on the hoof. Check out the film version of PENNIES FROM HEAVEN, adapted by Dennis Potter from his BBC miniseries, for an astounding Walken toe-tapping routine. He used to be a lion tamer, too, John Charles Julian Hatfield (and the North) "There is an unusual encyclopedia called Elements of Mathematics, written by 'Nicholas Bourbaki,' the pen name for several mathematicians who collaborated on it. What's unusual is that the work devotes 200 pages to the number 1." - --from ISAAC ASIMOV'S BOOK OF FACTS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:44:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Nick Saloman, Anton Barbeau The ex-girlfriend to whom the Minus Zero gent referred is Sondra Russell, who also appears on the back of INTERBABE CONCERN, and directed a few LF videos. She did (and may still) have long blond hair. J. Mallon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:51:01 EST From: Jbr21122@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Soft Boys in Mpls. Any loudfans interested in meeting before the Soft Boys show on 3/31? As a 40-plus music lover, I have had trouble getting folks interested in going; anyone willing to purchase ONE ticket at a discount? Make me an offer, I won't waste them now, Jim Robson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:02:57 -0600 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Coming to TNT on July 4 This might be of interest. http://www.brianwilson.com/thursday/thu01.html - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:32:33 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] Salomanda Paloganda Andrew Hamlin wrote: > > >I'm struck by the fact that someone is missing from this blurb. I wonder > >if Courtney Love was the blurb writer. > > Right. If anyone's puzzling, Mr. Saloman's also collaborated with the > much-loved/much-loathed Mary Lou Lord, notably for Mary Lou's 1998 album GOT > NO SHADOW, my number one album of that year. Barbara Manning also covered the Frond's "Stain on the Sun" on her 1212 album, so I was trying to think of some long-standing feud between CL and BM from the Hole/SF Seals days (when they were contemporaries on the Bay Area scene), but couldn't think of any! Okay, Teenage Fanclub covered "She's A Diamond" as a B-side, but but when or where did Elliott Smith or Juliana Hatfield cover Nick Saloman songs? Websearches for E.Smith or J.Hatfield in tandem with "Bevis Frond" turns up tons and tons of Mary Lou Lord sites, as well as this recent BF review from the Phoenix New Times, reporting that Nick Saloman's songs have been "covered by Teenage Fanclub, Elliott Smith, and Juliana Hatfield", which was probably the basis for the blurb from the 12 Bar Club site.. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-02-22/recordings.html Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:46:20 -0800 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Salomanda Paloganda >Barbara Manning also covered the Frond's "Stain on the Sun" on her 1212 >album, so I was trying to think of some long-standing feud between CL >and BM from the Hole/SF Seals days (when they were contemporaries on the >Bay Area scene), but couldn't think of any! Oddly enough, Love now has a new band with Louise Post, called Bastard. My friend Ryan's sister used to be in a band called Bastard Bitch, Andy "NOT a selling point! :-) Seriously, what does Rolling Stone know? They're all a bunch of over the hill losers... In the RS staff fashion segment in the new issue, I took one look at David Fricke in his bad Johnny Ramone hairdo and outfit and almost pissed myself laughing. It's 2001--get a freakin' haircut!" - --Johnny Chiba, in reaction to the band Candiria, which has ties to him, being named by Rolling Stone as one of the 10 best heavy metal bands. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:21:52 EST From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Two tech questions One of the things I would like to do to publise my book is have a web site. What would be the best how to book I could buy, like a 'Dummies' type book for that. And if I was going to have someone design it, what would it cost. I know AOL does give free space for a site, but you have to design it yourself I beleive. Any advice is good advice. Andrea ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #17 ******************************