From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #10 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, March 26 2001 Volume 01 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Tape Swap Review (West, Part 2) [Stewart Mason ] [loud-fans] Screw Barbara Walters! (pre-Oscars Loud Chat) [Jer Fairall ] [loud-fans] new free design, etc (ns) [Dana L Paoli ] RE: [loud-fans] rhyme crime [Jer Fairall ] RE: [loud-fans] rhyme crime [zkk46@ttacs.ttu.edu] Re: [loud-fans] new free design, etc (ns) [Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] Tape Swap Review (West, Part 2) And now, side one: The Dust Brothers -- "Stealing Fat" Manic and noisy and guitary, but not quite enough of any of them. Not bad, though. The Jam -- "Away From The Numbers" Cute use of thoroughly outdated mod slang, and catchy enough, but overall, not one of Paulie's better early songs. XTC -- "Stupidly Happy" I really liked XTC's last album, but I can see how some people felt disappointed by it, considering that most of these songs have been floating around on bootlegs for years. Best use of a guitar riff that repeats over and over without change since the dBs' "Ask For Jill." NRBQ -- "Just Ain't Fair" Classic good-timey Q from the great NRBQ AT YANKEE STADIUM--I can't remember for sure, but it sounds like a Joey song. (Translation: not weird enough to be Terry, not country enough to be Big Al.) The Ramones -- "Pinhead" Gabba gabba. The Godfathers -- "If I Only Had Time" I remember that at the time, I didn't like this nearly as much as "Birth School Work Death," but in retrospect, that might just be because it's more subtle, in its own hollering way. It sounds terrific now. Sleater-Kinney -- "You're No Rock and Roll Fun" I know I've said this before, but it's true: Sleater-Kinney is a great band, but they wouldn't get anywhere near the almost-total critical adoration they get from straight male rock critics if they weren't three extremely cute lesbians. This is a good old-fashioned snotty pop-rocker, but it's not much different than, say, Cub. Pink Floyd -- "Arnold Layne" One of the all-time greats. I love most of the albums from SAUCERFUL through DARK SIDE and like WISH YOU WERE HERE and ANIMALS okay, but frankly, nothing they ever did was a patch on the Syd singles. Ann Magnuson -- "It's A Great Feeling" It's hard to get away from the "Look, aren't I clever" vibe that surrounds just about everything Ann Magnuson does, both in acting and in music, but both in Bongwater and solo, she could do some worthy stuff. This one sounds like Laurie Anderson fronting early Yo La Tengo. Still way too damn smug, though. Warren Zevon -- "For My Next Trick, I'll Need A Volunteer" DAMN! I'd thought he'd pretty much lost it around the time of THE ENVOY, but this is, no foolin', one of the very best songs I have heard in the last couple years. Funny, rueful, brilliant lyrics, killer chorus, pretty much all the way perfect. And am I the only one who thinks this song is just *screaming* to be covered by Richard Thompson? Bruce McCulloch -- "Our Love" Like almost all Kids in the Hall-related stuff, this recitation is about three-quarters brilliant, one-quarter cringeworthy. The Seeds -- "Pushin' Too Hard" Another one of the all-time greats, with maybe the best electric piano work in all of garage rock. Still can't wait for NUGGETS II this summer from Rhino... Pete Townshend -- "Baba O'Riley (Orchestral Version)" Actually, it doesn't suck nearly as much as you might think. The tape also includes a handful of newsbriefs from an audio version of The Onion--this sort of thing is always a nice touch on a swap tape. Thanks, West! Sorry it took so long! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:41:14 -0600 From: "CJ" Subject: [loud-fans] a few things... For whatever reason, I thought I'd sneak out of lurkerdom for a few comments. Rest assured I'll go right back. - -I've always thought that Semisonic's first full length CD, GREAT DIVIDE, was their best. I find it much more interesting than FEELING STRANGELY FINE. However, "Sculpture Garden," my favorite song of theirs, is on their EP PLEASURE. - -My current favorite lyrics are by Shaggy on that "Angel of the Morning" swipe. I might not have it exactly right, but the important part is there. I suppose it's likely that many of you haven't heard this one. It's one of the curses of driving other peoples' cars. You are my angel of the morning, baby Closer than my peeps you are to me, angel - -I think someone mentioned my other favorite lyrics in a post once. Eminem, with the sweetest rhyme ever: I am what I say I am and if I wasn't, why would I say I am? - -In an alternate universe, I actually learned to play my guitar well and formed a band called Dewey and the Decimals who play the library conferences and do songs about libraries and librarians. The other day I was thinking that it could just as easily be Dewey and the Decibels. So I was rather surprised in a Twilight Zone sort of way to see the post from 2 Fs. Dewey Decibel System is lovely... - -I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned that the Honeydogs' new CD HERE'S LUCK is quite nice. I sort of think of them as walking the same street as Wilco (or maybe the Old 97's, although I haven't heard their latest), about half a block back. Their alt-country sound is now pretty much a thing of the past. - -Thanks to all who raved about the New Pornographers. As it was with eels, I caved in, made the purchase and am digging it. Well, that should do it for another few months. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:13:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] Screw Barbara Walters! (pre-Oscars Loud Chat) I'll be hanging out in irc.eskimo.com (#loudfans) until the Oscars start, if anyone cares to join me. Jer Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:46:32 -0600 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] Wasp Star On Sunday, March 25, 2001, at 02:28 AM, Stewart Mason wrote: > I really liked XTC's last album, but I can see how some people felt > disappointed by it, considering that most of these songs have been > floating > around on bootlegs for years. Speaking of XTC demos, CD Universe has the Japanese import HOMEGROWN (Wasp Star demos) on sale for $24.40. It will be available on 04/03/01. http://www.cduniverse.com/asp/cdu_main.asp Just do a "Quick Search" for XTC. You can find a track listing at: www.chalkhills.org - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:12:14 -0500 From: Dana L Paoli Subject: [loud-fans] new free design, etc (ns) I finally got a chance to hear the new Free Design album "Cosmic Peekaboo", whose release was apparently delayed a bit. Unfortunately, it sounds about like what I expected: their voices are pretty much the same (although when singing solo the age difference is more obvious) and the lyrics are still sweetly naive, but the Enoch Light backing is missed. It's by no means bad, and it does sound a lot like their other stuff, but there's a spark missing. Unless you already have all of their original albums, I don't see much reason to buy the new one. With some '60s groups, it's interesting to hear them recorded with modern (better) sound, but given that Enoch Light's records sounded better than most of what comes out now, that factor doesn't apply here. I did get a pleasant surprise though, when I found that there's a Trattoria (Japanese) release of the Margo Guryan album. Two reasons to buy it instead of the domestic version: it comes in a jewel case instead of a digipack (I hate digipacks, as they always get messed up) and it has four bonus tracks which are both terrific and different from the three on the domestic release. (For those who don't know Margo, think Claudine Longet territory, but not as whispy). I'm pretty sure that someone on this list has mentioned a band Linus of Hollywood. It seems that he/they're doing her songs? I'd love to hear more about that. - --dana np: Swans/Omniscience ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! 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There are clever ways to get around this, though, like in Soul Asylum's "Eyes of a Child": "Some are like customers and some are like patients She'd have gone back to school if she'd just had the patience" Jer - ----------------------------------------- Ah yes, good counterpoint,but Everclear's "I will buy you a new life" makes Dan's point quite nicely, I will buy you a garden where your flowers can bloom, I will buy you a new car perfect, shiny and new someone please say I'm misquoting, though this doesn't really rhyme, is not clever, and does not sound good. my personal favorite is this one, courtesy of "phoebe from friends, though not intentionally funny" aka Jewel. my hands are small I know, but they are not yours they are my own, they are not yours, they are my own, and I never broke them*, "know" to "own" is a bit of a strech, nevermind the multiple personalities fighting over who gets to have the hands, plus that extra bit at the end pointing out the years of gentle care afforded to the hands. you can call him jaime, you can call him stan, you can can call him stupid 'cuz that's probably what he am, uh, HEY! Andrew * according to jewel lyrics pages, that last line is actually, "and I am never broken" which only changes the overall hilarity of the couplet a bit, and changes the years of gentle care afforded the hands to the entire body and soul. feh. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:11:31 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] new free design, etc (ns) At 08:12 PM 3/25/01 -0500, Dana L Paoli wrote: >I'm pretty sure that someone on >this list has mentioned a band Linus of Hollywood. It seems that >he/they're doing her songs? I'd love to hear more about that. Linus is a he, and he not only recorded a couple of Margo Guryan's songs ("Sunday Morning" was one, and I think he also did another on a comp), his label Franklin Castle is the one that reissued TAKE A PICTURE. Linus' stuff is straight A&M Records-style '60s soft pop, but personally, his records don't do much for me. The criticism oft-leveled at the High Llamas fits Linus better: the atmosphere and the production are right on, but the songs aren't especially memorable. The Llamas get by because the atmosphere is more the point than the songs are, but that's not the case with Linus. S ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #10 ******************************