From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V1 #9 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, March 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Movie recommendation [MarkWStaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] so... ["BotServerCentral-Sector:Mail a/k/a 2 Fs" ] [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguru [MarkWStaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] chemistry [MarkWStaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguru [Cyndy Patrick ] Re: [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguro [MarkWStaples@aol.com] [loud-fans] quick! somebody hit record! ["BotServerCentral-Sector:Mail a/] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:01:06 EST From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Movie recommendation I wanted to recommend a movie I saw the other day (some parts filmed in SF) called THE OTHER SISTER, a film by Garry Marshall. I'm not sure when this was originally released...maybe 1999? Diane Keaton is an overprotective mother trying to deal with the letting go and independence of her mentally challenged (if that's the correct term) daughter, Juliette Lewis. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Giovanni Ribisi plays Lewis' love interest. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:14:44 -0600 (CST) From: "BotServerCentral-Sector:Mail a/k/a 2 Fs" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] so... On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, dmw wrote: > as usual, i find loudfans a boundless source of lyric inspiration. i > thought i'd share the beginning of my new song with you all... > > this pounding thing, my heart > it rips and tears me apart > i'm aflame, like a fire, > filled with wanting and desire > just hanging 'round waiting, > thinking thoughts, anticipating... > > anyone want to help keep it going? Oh babe, your love is like depleted uranium From Cupid's machine gun pointed at my cranium It hurts at first, but lingers worse Than awful verse, with rhyming worse Than wack MCs' over MP3s. It cuts just like a blade or a knife But at least it's better than Hitler's Reich! - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, acknowledging that points will be deducted for not mentioning capitalism. J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous...got me? __Captain Beefheart__ ps: My pet songwriting peeve? Forcing accents onto very weak syllables to get the meter to work. Much better just to twist the sung rhythm a bit to accent the words correctly. Of course, i can't think of an example - but there's a well-known Posies song I was listening to recently (title escapes me) that violates this one in a cringeworthy way, and it would have been *so* easy to sing it wihtout emphasizing the false accent. I think the RIAA's new slogan should be something like: MP3s: they infringe more than Stephen Stills in Buffalo Springfield. Yes, you can hit me now. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:46:07 -0700 From: Stewart Mason Subject: [loud-fans] tape swap review (West, part 1) Let's see, I think this was four swaps ago. West's tape is called "The First Rule of Tape Swap," which I think means he'd just seen FIGHT CLUB, which I still haven't gotten around to. I'm starting with side two, because the tape was already cued to that side and the Walkman I keep by the computer would take an hour and a half to fast-forward through a whole side. (What? Walk the seven steps over to the stereo and use it to rewind the tape? Look, I'm only on my second cup of coffee, that's just too complicated.) Rialto -- "Monday Morning, 5:19" Who are these guys? This song is terrific, in that kind of anthemic-Britpop way that's so popular currently. Not nearly as mopey as a lot of bands in this style, though. A keeper. Joe Jackson -- "Fools In Love" A live version. I like Joe's first few records, but I've never been a fan of this song. The cynicism seems forced and it's just too sluggish. However, this version has a nice extended piano solo that shows that Joey's been into the Errol Garner records again, and a nice interpolation of "For Your Love" that's much better than the song proper. Michael Penn -- "Whole Truth" Funny, I've heard this song any number of times, but I'd never really noticed how nice it is before. Randy Newman -- "Shame" Probably the most brilliant song Randy Newman's written since the SAIL AWAY days, and a masterpiece of emotional shading. Basically, it's in the voice of a wealthy old man alternately abusing and pleading with the young girl he's trying to keep (in the "kept woman" sense). Your sympathies shift from the singer to the person he's addressing and back in the space of a line, and as funny as the song is (and there are some *hilarious* lines here), by the end, when he's reduced to basically offering her his Lexus, it's just overwhelmingly sad for both of them. The whorehouse piano and the second-line horn section are terrific, and the way the backing vocals function as a Greek chorus is nothing short of genius. Paul Kelly -- "Deeper Water" I was so thoroughly disappointed by Paul Kelly's third or fourth US album (was POST ever released here?), SO MUCH WATER SO CLOSE TO HOME that I never bothered to seek out anything that came after. This song's just fine, in a Springsteeny way, but I'm still not that interested in finding any of his more recent albums. UNDER THE SUN and GOSSIP are still classics, though. Frank Zappa -- "It Just Might Be A One-Shot Deal" Zappa with Sneaky Pete on pedal steel, and it doesn't even sound like he's being used ironically. Who knew? This is from WAKA/JAWAKA, one of the last Zappa albums I find particularly interesting. The Monks -- "Monk Time" They're not really as weird as their press suggests, but BLACK MONK TIME's a fun album regardless. The electric banjo's a nice sonic touch, in that it's a really annoying sound. Devo -- "Worried Man Blues" Isn't this from that lame-ass Neil Young movie? Devo do a surprisingly great version of this traditional American folk song. The Knack -- "Your Number Or Your Name" This is probably my favorite Knack song, since it's one of the few with lyrics that don't make me go, "oh, grow UP, Fieger!" I was ten when this album came out, and even *I* thought it was emotionally immature. Fishbone -- "Skankin' to the Beat" Fishbone's first EP was a terrifically weird and eclectic record. It's interesting that this song, an early live favorite, wasn't on it, because I imagine it was probably their most popular song in the early days. It's so straightforward, though, that it would have changed the record's impact too much. Great stuff, though. The Replacements -- "I Will Dare" Well, really, what can you say? One of the most perfect pop songs of the '80s. Side one coming up. S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:36:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: [loud-fans] chemistry I thought Semisonic's previous record FEELING STRANGELY FINE was a great pop record ("This Will be My Year," in particular, reminded me of the Loud Family with a little mainstream gloss, and "Never You Mind" and "All Worked Out" were up there with anything by Ben Folds, Sloan or Fountains of Wayne) but after one listen I thought CHEMISTRY was awful. Nothing about the songwriting on the previous album bothered me very much but here I found myself cringing at a lot of the lyrics, particularly that one really sappy love song that sounds like something Celine Dion or Christina Aguelera might decline on the grounds that it is too maudlin. The lead single is rather catchy, I'll admit, but I didn't find the arrangements on the rest of the album to be particularly interesting or distinct. And yet it's receiving many a glowing critical rave. Q magazine gave it 5 stars and a "second coming of the Beatles" type review. I don't get it. Jer np: Leslie Spit Treeo, CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES (from 1997...when are *they* gonna make a new album???) Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:43:11 EST From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguru I was curious if anyone has heard of this writer and could please recommend a book of theirs to me? - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:57:46 EST From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] chemistry In a message dated 3/24/01 2:44:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, j_fairall@yahoo.com writes: << I found myself cringing at a lot of the lyrics, particularly that one really sappy love song that sounds like something Celine Dion or Christina Aguelera might decline on the grounds that it is too maudlin. >> The reader is "there." You cannot sing a maudlin song while wearing chokers and halter tops. I'll stay far away. - -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:59:04 +0700 From: Cyndy Patrick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguru Kazuo Ishiguro is the guy who wrote "Remains of the Day" (upon which the movie was based). This is the only book of his I've read (many years ago!), and I remember liking the spare, restrained tone. - -Cyndy MarkWStaples@aol.com wrote: > I was curious if anyone has heard of this writer and could please recommend a > book of theirs to me? > -Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:21:51 EST From: MarkWStaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Kazuo Ishiguro In a message dated 3/24/01 3:03:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, cyndyp@earthlink.net writes: << Kazuo Ishiguro >> I called up Letter Man and he has fixed the problem. It's a word, it's a plan...it's Rita Moreno! (Morenu?) M (I like this...looks more streamlined and postmodern than "-M." ...kind of like the Chevrolet Celebrity vs. the Chevrolet "Eurosport"...good Lord, sometimes it's embarrassing to be an American) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:22:59 -0600 (CST) From: "BotServerCentral-Sector:Mail a/k/a 2 Fs" Subject: [loud-fans] quick! somebody hit record! You just *know* that someone's going to title their recording - preferably hip-hop or some dance species - _All Your Bass Are Belong to Us_. And somebody really should name their band Dewey Decibel System (Janet?)... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V1 #9 *****************************