From: owner-lilith-fair-fans-digest@smoe.org (lilith-fair-fans-digest) To: lilith-fair-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: lilith-fair-fans-digest V2 #38 Reply-To: lilith-fair-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-lilith-fair-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lilith-fair-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lilith-fair-fans-digest Friday, July 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [lilith-fair-fans] ticketmaster screw up [TwinkleGrl@aol.com] [lilith-fair-fans] Lilith Tickerts for Atlanta (Friday) [NuAgeThnkr@aol.c] Re: [lilith-fair-fans] Free CDs or Live CDs? [AMCFLND1@aol.com] [lilith-fair-fans] lilith CDs trading ["Angerica" ] [lilith-fair-fans] Yes! Backpacks at Lilith! [Jiminy Cricket ] [lilith-fair-fans] Re: Cameras at Lilith Fair [Larry Sievers ] [lilith-fair-fans] About cameras....... [Brooke James ] [lilith-fair-fans] Lessons Learned at Lilith [Jiminy Cricket ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:12:31 EDT From: TwinkleGrl@aol.com Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] ticketmaster screw up hi everyone, i went to the rosebowl lilith fair last saturday. i had ordered tickets (six of them to be exact) from the ticketmaster website on the day they went on sale. we got to the rosebowl and went to will call to pick our tickets up. they said "they've cancelled your ticket order." in short, we were billed for the tickets from the credit card company but ticketmaster screwed us over and said they didn't have our tickets, that the order had been cancelled by ticketmaster (NOT the credit card company). we had decent seats- 5th row on the stadium. paid $84/ticket. we ended up in row 61 on the stadium for $21/ticket. i have every intension of writing a strongly-worded letter as an enraged customer but i wanted to know if this happened to anyone else. beware and be aware!!! on a lighter note, i hope everyone's enjoying this year's last lilith tour...sheryl crow was awesome! she brought stevie nicks and beth orton out for us. :) very cool. back to lurking. twinkle - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:39:45 EDT From: NuAgeThnkr@aol.com Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Lilith Tickerts for Atlanta (Friday) Hey! I have two tickets for the Friday show in Atlanta--good seats (Sec 204, Row NN, 19 & 20)--and I'm willing to let them go for best offer... E-mail me at nuagethnkr@aol.com (If you hit reply, it goes to the whole list!) - --Keith - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:43:29 EDT From: AMCFLND1@aol.com Subject: Re: [lilith-fair-fans] Free CDs or Live CDs? I believe you're talking a bout the Lilith Fair sampler. If you go over to the official site, they list who's on this one. I know that Tara MacLean has a new song on it called Dryland. Sara - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:27:54 +0100 From: "Angerica" Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] lilith CDs trading hey lilithers, i have the Lilith Fair- a celebration of women in music CD thats from 1998 i think but when i looked on a website (amazon i think it was...) there are two more after this CD (its the maroon one) Its real difficult if not virtually impossible to get the following CDs ( i think they're green and navy coloured) in the UK. Is there anybody anywhere that would be willing to put these onto CD or tape for me in a trade?? I can offer quite a lot back of bootlegs or generally albums that you may not have but want ( dar williams, steve poltz, natalie merchant, jewel, sarah mc, beth orten etc etc etc..all the usual stuff). If anybody is even a tad interested puh-lease mail me back. Btw is there anybody from the UK on this list? if they have these CDs i'd be interested to know how they got them..!! adios angela ; ) - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:51:20 -0400 From: Jiminy Cricket Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Yes! Backpacks at Lilith! ~Attila wrote: "for those of you that have gone this year or in the past do you think it's a good or bad idea to take a backpack this year????" - A backpack is a DEFINITE must!!! There is SOO much free stuff there, plus, you get to smuggle all sorts of wonderful goodies inside the venue if you have lots of nooks and crannies in your bag. The only downside is that if you go with people who DON'T have backpacks w/ them, you end up being a packmule for their stuff, too. 8-) "last year I did and it came in handy once in a while :)" - I put an extra duffle bag (empty, of course), on the bottom of my bag, just in case I needed the extra storage room later on in the evening. The security people will do a cursory check of the stuff you have at the TOP of the bag, or the things that are readily visible to them (not that I'm giving you subtle hints on what you could or couldn't do with that info . . . ), but when there are 10-70 other people behind you, they can't be too thorough, y'know? 8-) Bring water! (2-3 small UNOPENED bottles, plus some Gatorade/All Sport to replenish your electrolytes). Hope that helps. I'll be posting a few more hints and suggestions a little later, to make your Lilith experience more enjoyable. 8-) Rocky - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:05:54 PDT From: "Kris M" Subject: Re: [lilith-fair-fans] lilith CDs trading I'd be happy to burn you a copy of them if you'd like...i assume your talking about Volumes 2 and 3 from this year right?? Email me if you still are looking for someone to do this :) Fumblehugs and lvoe Kris >hey lilithers, > >i have the Lilith Fair- a celebration of women in music CD thats from 1998 >i think >but when i looked on a website (amazon i think it was...) there are two >more after >this CD (its the maroon one) > >Its real difficult if not virtually impossible to get the following CDs ( i >think they're >green and navy coloured) in the UK. Is there anybody anywhere that would be >willing to put these onto CD or tape for me in a trade?? I can offer quite >a lot back >of bootlegs or generally albums that you may not have but want ( dar >williams, >steve poltz, natalie merchant, jewel, sarah mc, beth orten etc etc etc..all >the usual >stuff). >If anybody is even a tad interested puh-lease mail me back. >Btw is there anybody from the UK on this list? if they have these CDs i'd >be >interested to know how they got them..!! > >adios >angela ; ) > >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans >-or-- >unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest > >Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read >the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. > >9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:08:51 PDT From: "Kris M" Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Sarah Trading Page Hey guys, Wanted to let you know that i put up a trading page on my Sarah Discography site. If you want to post what you have, want you are looking for or just chat you cna get there 2 ways. YOu cna either log on to the main page and follow the links to the trade page then to the trade list through http://www.angelfire.com/ct/fumbler69/sarah.discography.html or you can go right to the main page at http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb663532 Have FuN! Kris >hey lilithers, > >i have the Lilith Fair- a celebration of women in music CD thats from 1998 >i think >but when i looked on a website (amazon i think it was...) there are two >more after >this CD (its the maroon one) > >Its real difficult if not virtually impossible to get the following CDs ( i >think they're >green and navy coloured) in the UK. Is there anybody anywhere that would be >willing to put these onto CD or tape for me in a trade?? I can offer quite >a lot back >of bootlegs or generally albums that you may not have but want ( dar >williams, >steve poltz, natalie merchant, jewel, sarah mc, beth orten etc etc etc..all >the usual >stuff). >If anybody is even a tad interested puh-lease mail me back. >Btw is there anybody from the UK on this list? if they have these CDs i'd >be >interested to know how they got them..!! > >adios >angela ; ) > >------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans >-or-- >unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest > >Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read >the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. > >9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:10:13 -0700 From: Larry Sievers Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Re: Cameras at Lilith Fair Someone was asking about cameras at Lilith Fair... we have taken cameras every year. First year, Salem, Oregon. Second year, Portland, Oregon. This year, two days at The Gorge Ampitheater in Washington. The one stipulation they've had was that no "professional" cameras were allowed. A security guard explained to us that a "professional" camera is one which has interchangeable lenses. - - Larry - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:52:12 EDT From: PinkChanel@aol.com Subject: re: [lilith-fair-fans] Re: Cameras at Lilith Fair In a message dated 7/22/99 5:12:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tech@chukchi.com writes: << A security guard explained to us that a "professional" camera is one which has interchangeable lenses. >> I guess this is a fair definition in *their* world, but what about nonprofessionals who are serious photography buffs? Would they prefer for us to just buy those awful, overpriced disposables at the venue? And what's the point of it all? Are they saving all the quality photos for the press photographers and the bad photos for the fans? The Pink-eyed Lurker ;) - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:40:31 -0700 From: Iris Mason-Miester Leu Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Umbrellas. don't be stupid like me. even if it looks like rain approaching, don't bring your umbrellas. duh, you say. i lost mine yesterday to the security fartbags.. :( iris. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:33:33 -0400 From: Brooke James Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] About cameras....... sorry if this was brought up already! Anybody on this list ever been to the E-Center in Camden, NJ? I'm going there to see Lilith next Friday, and I was wondering if it's a good idea to bring cameras. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!!! Thank you very MUCH!!! Brooke "There ain't nothin' like regret to remind you you're alive...."--Sheryl's words of wisdom. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:36:11 -0400 From: Jiminy Cricket Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Umbrellas. "don't be stupid like me. even if it looks like rain approaching, don't bring your umbrellas." - Garbage bags double as ponchos very nicely. "duh, you say. i lost mine yesterday to the security fartbags.. :(" - They take away umbrellas but allow cam-corders? What kind of logic is that? Oh, wait. I guess the umbrellas get in the way of the cam-corders. Makes perfect sense to me. Shoulda brought your cam-corder, Iris. But seriously, there were a few people who had umbrellas at Austin, and the people behind them couldn't see around them. If you need protection from the rain, bring a baseball cap or a rain hat or something similar. Shirts and pants made from Coolmax are AWESOME!!! 8-) Rocky - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:36:15 -0400 From: Jiminy Cricket Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Lessons Learned at Lilith Yeah, try saying THAT five times fast!! (sorry for the cross-post) Here are a few things that I thought I'd share with y'all, after my wonderful experiences in Austin & Dallas. These are things to bring. 1. Backpack - Lotsa goodies are given away from the different booths. Tower Records gives out free bags, but it's better to bring your own. It helps if it's waterproof, cuz ya never know. BTW, Austin had an absolutely GORGEOUS rainbow appear during Shawn Colvin's set. It was simply breathtaking. 2. Binoculars - Wal-Mart has some small ones for $15-20 that work pretty well. 3. Bottled Water - Here's a quick price comparison: one (1) 12-pack of 6.9-oz bottled water at Wal-Mart = one 6.9-oz bottle of water at Lilith = $2.50. Do the math. Bring your own. 4. Sharpies - Artists are MORE than willing to sign autographs, but it helps if you bring your own stuff to write with / on. 5. Earplugs - Luscious Jackson and Sheryl Crow ROCK (as did Trish Murphy) but when you're sitting really close to the speakers, you should expect a ruptured eardrum or two. A nice gentleman sitting behind me in Dallas gave me a pair of earplugs he bought at Target, and they filtered out some of the noise. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. I have a friend who follows that with, "Like KY jelly." (OK, 'nuff said). 6. Baseball cap / poncho / garbage bag / suncreen - Protection from the elements (sun, rain, freak sandstorms). I had most of these things with me (except the earplugs and KY), and I had a GREAT time at Lilith. I got a few autographs and took a few pictures. So, if you haven't gone to Lilith yet, these are a few things you may consider bringing. 8-) Rocky - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:13:45 EDT From: PinkChanel@aol.com Subject: re: [lilith-fair-fans] Umbrellas. One reason that they ban brollies is that they are a mighty fine weapon with which to poke an eye or two out, intentionally or not. (This is from personal experience.) The Pinkeyed Lurker ;) - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:52:26 -0400 From: Jiminy Cricket Subject: [lilith-fair-fans] Cameras (more cross-posting. sorry) __________ Most venues have a "NO CAMERA" policy, but from what I've seen, it's more like, "NO CAMERAS ALLOWED (if we find them)". I went to 2 Lilith venues over the past couple of days and from what I saw, security was pretty lax about searching bookbags. They ask you to open up your bag, but they won't look too hard. If they peek inside and see a bunch of other stuff, like clothes, water bottles, and binoculars, they'll just waive you inside. Plus, if you hide it in the bottom of your bag, under a couple of T-shirts (or maybe rolled up inside a t-shirt), you should be OK. I haven't seen them pat anybody down for carrying cameras on them. You could probably put on in your back pocket, and wear a large shirt to cover them, or wear baggy / cargo pants. When Sheryl and Sarah took the stage, the whole place lit up with flashbulbs, so it's pretty obvious that security doesn't really care to much (well, at least at the 2 that I went to). The only two things that they were enforcing were: 1) No standing on chairs to take pictures, and 2) No cameras with telephoto lenses. I've seen them "bust" people for both of these, although the "chair-stander" was just given a stern warning, while the telephoto person actually had to give up her film to security. I hope that helps. If anybody else has any other experiences to share, please feel free to do so. 8-) Rocky - ------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans - -or-- unsubscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest Hey, AOL chuckleheads--stop mailing unsub messages to the list. Read the instructions five lines up. Because a mind is a terrible thing. 9 out of ten Kosovarians surveyed prefer patatoes. ------------------------------ End of lilith-fair-fans-digest V2 #38 *************************************