From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #722 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, October 25 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 722 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- even even more [Les Irvin ] Re: Golden in Time: The unremitting genius of Joni Mitchell [pat holden <] Re: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni's birthday gift ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) [Les Irvin ] The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) [Les Irvin ] Golden in Time: The unremitting genius of Joni Mitchell [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: even even more [pat holden ] The new JMDL, update [Les Irvin ] Re: Joni's birthday gift [lcs4bike@yahoo.com] Re: even even more [Les Irvin ] Re: JM's birthday [Victor Johnson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 11:10:03 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: even even more The epic tales of Laurel Canyonbs heyday continues to linger like the warm smell of colitas rising up through the airb& Itbs here that the SoCal sound was born out of an era of relaxed morals (fuckingsex), folks expanding their mental horizons (drugs), and a wave of eclectic misfits coming from all over to launch, reinvent, or escape their musical careers (rock bnb roll) in this sleepy, smoky, winding hippy enclave. And the women, Mama Cass & Joni Mitchell, were the (wise and worldly beyond their years) matriarchs watching over over this peaceful, easy-feeling, community headquartered on Lookout Mountain. Henry Diltz was a friend and photographer to many in the scene those days, and his visual record and memories of these times is priceless. /bWhen I first came out to L.A. [in 1968], my friend Joel Bernstein found an old book in a flea market that said, bAsk anyone in America where the craziest people live and theybll tell you California. Ask anyone in California where the craziest people live and theybll say Los Angeles. Ask anyone in Los Angeles where the craziest people live and theybll tell you Hollywood. Ask anyone in Hollywood where the craziest people live and theybll say Laurel Canyon. And ask anyone in Laurel Canyon where the craziest people live and theybll say Lookout Mountain.b So I bought a house on Lookout Mountain.b/- Joni Mitchell /bJoni Mitchell was quite a true artist: deeply creative, very thoughtful. A lot of art is imitation but for Joni it was original, from her heart. She was really a poet, and she was a painter before she made music. She was lots of fun to photograph because she spoke so brilliantly about everything. It was fun to hang out with her and listen to her talk about whatever was on her mind. She's a grand lady now, she holds forth if there's anybody nearby to listen. You'd see her at a party with a whole bunch of young people sitting at her feet listening to her hold forth about religion, art, the generations, life, everything.b photo by B) Henry Diltz/ /bDavid Crosby came to see Joni Mitchell at the Gaslight South, in Florida. bRight away I thought Ibd been hit by a hand grenade,b he later said. There was something about the way Mitchell combined naked purity with artful sophistication that shocked Crosby b the sense of a young woman who had seen too much too soon. He set Joni in his sights, bedding her that week. The affair was never likely to last. bThese were two very willful people. Neither was going to cave in. I remember being at Jonibs old apartment in Chelsea in New York and I heard this commotion on the street. And it was Crosby and Joni screaming at each other on the corner. It gave me a real sense of the volatility of their relationship,b recalled Joel Bernstein. The volatility did not obscure Davidbs deep admiration for Jonibs talent, nor his awareness of the obstacles she and Elliot were encountering. bEverything about Joni was unique and original, but we couldnbt get a deal,b said Elliott Roberts, who took tapes to Columbia, RCA and other majors. bThe folk period had died, so she was totally against the grain. Everyone wanted a copy of the tape for, like, their wives, but no one would sign her.b A demo session was green-lighted on condition that David Crosby produce it. bDavid was very enthusiastic about the music,b Joni says. bHe was twinkly about it. His instincts were correct: he was going to protect the music and pretend to produce me.'bvia / /bThe sessions that eventually became Joni Mitchell could not have been more auspicious. Recording at Sunset Sound, Mitchell and Crosby kept things stripped and simple: in the main just Joni, her guitar, and such well-worked songs as bMarcieb and bI Had a Kingb. The two had now officially split up. bThey each described to me crying at the other through the glass in the studio,b says Bernstein. Sitting in on occasional guitar and bass was Stephen Stills, who was across the hall with his group Buffalo Springfield. His bandmate, the dark and brooding Neil Young, was known to Mitchell from her apprenticeship on the Canadian folk circuit. Sharing a uniquely dry Canuck humour, Young and Mitchell had an easy rapport.bvia / /bThat was the day (Feb. 1968) bMamab Cass had her backyard picnic for Eric Clapton, because he didn't know anybody. I met Eric that day, and Joni Mitchell that day. Mama invited David Crosby up, thinking that he and Eric were both musicians and they'd relate to one another. She was playing the earth mother again. We used to call Mama Cass the Gertrude Stein of Laurel Canyon because she would get people together b she introduced Graham Nash to David Crosby and Stephen Stills. Crosby brought this young girl he'd just discovered - Joni Mitchell. She sat on the grass playing her guitar and Clapton sat there mesmerized with her playing. Joni Mitchell played differently, she tuned her guitar to a chord, and Eric Clapton had never seen that before.b Photo by B) Henry Diltz/ /bEric Clapton sat spellbound on the lawn as Joni cooed bUrge For Goingb, a song inspired by the death of the folk movement. Crosby was at her side, a joint in his mouth and a Cheshire-cat smile of satisfaction on his face. bMama Cass organized a little backyard barbecue, because shebd met Cream she invited Clapton, who was very quiet and almost painfully shy. And Joni Mitchell was there and doing her famous open tunings, and Eric sat and stared at her hands to try and figure out what she was doing. Cass's daughter Owen is sitting in the foreground.b Photo by B) Henry Diltz.via / /Mama Cass Elliot on her red 1968 Norton Commando motorcycle. bThatbs bMamab Cass with her daughter Owen. When I started taking photographs, they all started saying 'oh I need a publicity photo, or a poster, or a record cover'. And my hobby turned into a kind of job - but it was always really a fun thing. I was photographing all day long - flowers and dogs and cats, pretty girls, old pickup trucks. It was just good when taking photos could pay for itself.b Photo by/B)/Henry Diltz/ /Crosby, Stills and Nash, Los Angeles, CA, 1969. bbThe famous First Album of CSN sitting on the couch in Downtown LA. What most people don't know is that the house was torn down a few days later so the band could never to retake this photograph sitting in their (proper) group name order.b Photo by B) Henry Diltz/ /bErrant Byrd David Crosby and former Buffalo Springfield guitarist Stephen Stills were brought together in 1968 by Mama Cass Elliot. Graham Nash listened to the pair sing You Donbt Have to Cry, asked to hear it again, then on the third performance joined in with his own perfect harmony. The high point of their collaboration came with DC)jC Vu, their second album - the sound of California in a way the Beach Boys had been a few years earlier. You could argue the trio never stopped symbolizing the Laurel Canyon scene: their formation spoke of its optimism and talent, their transformation to coked-out, cocooned multimillionaires, unable to contain their own egos long enough to make an album, told you how things had changed. Occasionally participating (he was on DC)jC Vu), but always from a distance - the funkier, scruffier neighborhood of Topanga Canyon - the zealously independent Neil Young was the first to call bullshit when he saw things going wrong: the off-key, agonized howl of 1973bs Time Fades Away as perfect a summation of what the hippy dream had become as the songs on DC)jC Vu were an expression of what it might have been.b Alexis Petridisvia / /bThat was the first moment (1969) I'd ever seen James Taylor. The phone rang one day and it was [British record producer/manager] Peter Asher. And he said 'Henry, I have this musician here, James Taylor, and we need a publicity picture'. So I went to the Peterbs house, and he opened the door and there was James, sitting just like that. He was playing a song called Oh Suzanah, fingerpicking. It sounded like a music box b as a musician, it blew my mind. I went over and just fell to my knees a little in front of him. And as I listened I started taking pictures. Later that day we went out to my friend Cyrus Faryar's, who had this place called The Farm, a little commune with little sheds and barns there. And so we went out there to finish the day, taking photos, and one of those became the album cover for Sweet Baby James.b Photo by B) Henry Diltz/ /James Taylor reading a Kool-Aid packet (read: stoned) with Joni Mitchell on the porch of her Lookout Mountain cottage, 1971. Photo by B) Joel Berstein. bMy dining room looked out over Frank Zappabs duck pond, and once when my mother was visiting, three naked girls were floating around on a raft in the pond. My mother was horrified by my neighborhood. In the upper hills the Buffalo Springfield were playing, and in the afternoon there was just a cacophony of young bands rehearsing. At night it was quiet except for cats and mockingbirds. It had a smell of eucalyptus, and in the spring, which was the rainy season then, a lot of wildflowers would spring up. Laurel Canyon had a wonderful distinctive smell to it.b ~ Joni Mitchell/ /2401 Laurel Canyon Boulevard b Today it's a grassy field (after having burnt to the ground in 1981) but in the late 1960s it was the site of Frank Zappa's famous log cabin. The rustic home, built originally by Hollywood cowboy star Tom Mix, is where Zappa called home in 1968. It was also a veritable revolving door of rock and roll history. Zappa held all-night bacchanals with groupies such as the GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously) and Pamela Des Barres, once threw Mick Jagger out of his house for being an obnoxious drunk, Alice Cooper auditioned for Zappa's record label there and got himself signed, and Mama Cass introduced Graham Nash to David Crosby and Stephen Stills there too./via /Canyon Country Store, ca. 1970. The Laurel Canyon Lizard King, Jim Morrison himself, lived right near the store with his girlfriend Pamela Courson in a cozy 3 bedroom bungalow built in 1922 on Rothdell Trail. Morrison referenced their pad in bLove Streetb and the Canyon Country Store as, bthe place where the creatures meet.b/ /bElliot, David, and I migrated from New York to Los Angeles. David was my agent; Elliot was my manager. I bought this little house, and David Crosby chided me for it; he said I should have looked around. But I liked that house. The hill behind my house was full of little artificial man-made caves. The house was charming. I paid $36,000 for it, but I paid it off. I probably paid more for it because I paid it off. It had a fireplace and it was mysteriously protected by a force. My neighbors, who were six feet from my house, were junkies; I was out of town and came back and their house had burned down to the ground.b ~ Joni Mitchell | Photo by B)Henry Diltz/ /bThis was going to be for Jackson Brownebs bLate for the Skyb album, but it wasn't in the end. The car was an old '55 Chevy. The feet you can see pressed against the window are the girl's who owned the car. That car was originally a present to Jackson from Glenn Frey of the Eagles. Jackson in turn gave it to an old girlfriend. We had to borrow the car for the afternoon and she was laying down in the back seat b you can see her feet.b Photo by B) Henry Diltz/ /A young Linda Rondstadt photographed by Henry Diltz in front of her Santa Monica home. The Eagles owe a lot to Rondstadt, as their original line-up of Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Randy Meisner, and Bernie Leadon were first assembled as her backing band. Linda was generous enough to let Glenn take the mike on tour and sing lead on one of his own original songs. That ultimately lead to the birth of The Eagles. Glenn and Don decided they wanted to leave and form their own band. She was good to them, and they parted ways with no ill will, so the story goes. Frey and Henley always seemed to quickly move along to the next stepping stone, leaving sentimentality as a vehicle for their songs, not their lives./ /bItbs no secret that when they came together they were Glennbs band, although Don could sing anything he wrapped his voice around. We used to call Don bThe Secret Weaponb because he sat back there behind all those drums with his big fuzzy hair. It wasnbt that obvious, but that insanely beautiful voice, like 400 grain sandpaper, rough but fine, was incredible to hearb even if you didnbt know where it was coming from. Glenn was a great natural country singer, and a pretty good guitar player. He brought that R&B sensibility to the table with him, and kind of learned country along the way. And brilliantly. As for Randy, he was a very important component as well. It would never have been the same band without him. His singing on the high end is unlike any other sound. He also defined a style of songwriter-rooted bass playing, not unlike Paul McCartney. He always managed to make a nice melody underneath what the others were doing. And he could play light, with the tips of his fingers. The only other person I heard do that was Stephen Stills. And Bernie was one of the best and most overlooked guitar players around. All those great opening guitar riffs, in the beginning, came from Bernie. The great, grand opening of bTake it Easy,b thatbs Bernie Leadon. It was the combination that worked beautifully. Someone from East Texas, a guy from Detroit, another from the Central Plains. and one from Florida. There was nothing Southern California about that band. They were an all-American rock and roll outfit.b J.D. Souther/ August 1973b Glenn Frey of The Eagles and a record promoter dude named Paul Ahern (buddies and roommates at the infamous bKirkwood Casino and Health Club,b a named bestowed on their non-stop party pad ), sitting on the hood of Freybs 1955 Chevrolet Bel Air. The Eagles were the most popular band of the 1970s largely thanks to Ahern, a promoter for their record company who relentlessly and effectively pounded key radio stations in the major markets across the country getting them to play Eaglesb singles over and over and over and over. b Image by B) Henry Diltz /I personally donbt have a lot to say about The Eagles. They always felt more bcatchyb than sincere, if that makes sense. More about getting drunk, laid, and rich (which isnbt all bad), over artistic merit. But they were musically sound and highly proficient at cranking out radio hits based on Glenn Freybs clever lyrics. Don Henley always had a better voice, and a drummer who was able to lead a band, so hebs pretty solid in that regard. Joe Walsh definitely gave the band character, rock bnb roll legitimacy, and a much needed set of balls. I will say this for The Eaglesb as a kid the lyrics were mesmerizing, laying out a storyline that deftly painted a picture in your head. I was a big fan of bstorytelling songsb back thenb like Jim Croce, Three Dog Night, Johnny Cash, etc., and The Eagles had strong game. Do I own any of their music, or crave an Eagles fix ever? Not really, I feel like itbs in my head whenever (if ever) I need it. Ibve heard enough Eaglesb tunes to last several lifetimes. The Eagles didnbt want to blend into a SoCal scene, or any scene. Their sole ambition was always to achieve commercial success. To be a machine. The Eagles feel like oddballs in this lineup, and the end to that Laurel Canyon music era. While Joni Mitchell and CSN represent personal craft perfected on vinyl, The Eagles were the 8-track player in your shiny new hatchback Mercury Bobcat. Both good, just very different./ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:05:41 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: Golden in Time: The unremitting genius of Joni Mitchell Yes, there have been petty wars and feathers ruffled vis a vis whether or not the 80s Joni was good ... or not. Some lively fiery word slinging discussions have taken place in these hallowed halls over the years :-)B Thanks so much for posting the link, I shall read later ...B happy Saturday to you too !! love, MagsB From: Anita Gabrielle To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:46 AM Subject: Golden in Time: The unremitting genius of Joni Mitchell Don't know if this has been posted here, but I found thian interesting read, though the writer has little time for the 80s material, which seems to be quite a consensus in the wider world. I know there are some real fans of DED on JMDL, not least myself. Happy Saturday Anita > http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/23/joni-mitchell-best-songs-albums/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:45:39 -0700 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) Goodbye Smoe. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles, > > It's time to say goodbye to SMOE, the host of the JMDL. It's been a good > long run, but the SMOE server was abandoned (apparently) a couple years ago > and its behavior is very erratic and unruly. It's amazing it still functions > at all. Time to get out before it's gone altogether. > > Over the weekend, I will be transferring everyone to the new JMDL home over > at Google Groups. No worries, you do not need to have a Google account to be > a member of the list. > > There are a few trade-offs, but overall, this should be a much better home > for the list - more versatile and reliable. The main thing we lose is the > "Only-Joni" option. However, most webmail and email software allows one to > filter messages directly into the trash, so those of you who want Joni-only > can take advantage of NJC in the subject line to silently make those go > away. > > Once you receive a welcome message, you'll know the switch has been made and > you can start posting to the new address (details in the welcome) > immediately. > > Thanks, > Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:46:23 -0500 From: Sue Cameron Subject: Re: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) Say it ain't so SMOE! Lot's of good memories in the archives. Will they be salvaged? Suze > On Oct 24, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > > Joniphiles, > > It's time to say goodbye to SMOE, the host of the JMDL. It's been a good long run, but the SMOE server was abandoned (apparently) a couple years ago and its behavior is very erratic and unruly. It's amazing it still functions at all. Time to get out before it's gone altogether. > > Over the weekend, I will be transferring everyone to the new JMDL home over at Google Groups. No worries, you do not need to have a Google account to be a member of the list. > > There are a few trade-offs, but overall, this should be a much better home for the list - more versatile and reliable. The main thing we lose is the "Only-Joni" option. However, most webmail and email software allows one to filter messages directly into the trash, so those of you who want Joni-only can take advantage of NJC in the subject line to silently make those go away. > > Once you receive a welcome message, you'll know the switch has been made and you can start posting to the new address (details in the welcome) immediately. > > Thanks, > Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:46:47 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Call The Angels" by Patti Witten This is my favorite holiday song ever. Patti is a friend of Sue Tierney's. Hear it on Spotify and see if you agree. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:42:57 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: even even more Les, just as well. I thought it was about colitis... "The epic tales of Laurel Canyonbs heyday continues to linger like the warm smell of colitas " > On 24 Oct 2015, at 19:34, Les Irvin wrote: > > Oops, sorry everyone. This post was sent in error. > >> On 10/24/2015 12:31 PM, wrote: >> >> The epic tales of Laurel Canyonbs heyday continues to linger like the ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:55:58 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: Joni's birthday gift Thanks Laura, yes we will make sure the finished product is available On 10/24/15, 9:26 AM, "owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of lcs4bike@yahoo.com" wrote: >Sue & Jamie, > >It would be nice to get a "got it" confirmation that what we send (all >formats) was received. If that is too much trouble never mind. Thanks >for putting it all together! Also, are we going to be able to see the >final product? > >Love, >Laura > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 24, 2015, at 2:00 AM, JMDL Digest >>wrote: >> >> >> JMDL Digest Saturday, October 24 2015 Volume 2015 : >>Number 721 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Joni birthday card: Issues with my email are not a problem ["Susan E. >>McN] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:07:50 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: Joni birthday card: Issues with my email are not a problem >> >> Hi Gang, >> >> If you get a bounce message from me, it's because I forward my Cornell >>address >> to my gmail.com account. This means that I am receiving your email with >> photos no problem through my cornell account, but my gmail.com account >>is >> being persnickety. Just delete these messages. >> >> Thanks, Sue >> >> Sue Tierney McNamara >> sem8@cornell.edu >> >>www.youtube.com/user/SueTierney16>6> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2015 #721 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:50:58 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) Yes, the entire 19 years of archives will be preserved! On 10/24/2015 5:46 PM, Sue Cameron wrote: > Say it ain't so SMOE! > > Lot's of good memories in the archives. Will they be salvaged? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 17:27:28 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: The end of SMOE (IMPORTANT list info) Joniphiles, It's time to say goodbye to SMOE, the host of the JMDL. It's been a good long run, but the SMOE server was abandoned (apparently) a couple years ago and its behavior is very erratic and unruly. It's amazing it still functions at all. Time to get out before it's gone altogether. Over the weekend, I will be transferring everyone to the new JMDL home over at Google Groups. No worries, you do not need to have a Google account to be a member of the list. There are a few trade-offs, but overall, this should be a much better home for the list - more versatile and reliable. The main thing we lose is the "Only-Joni" option. However, most webmail and email software allows one to filter messages directly into the trash, so those of you who want Joni-only can take advantage of NJC in the subject line to silently make those go away. Once you receive a welcome message, you'll know the switch has been made and you can start posting to the new address (details in the welcome) immediately. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:46:12 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Golden in Time: The unremitting genius of Joni Mitchell Don't know if this has been posted here, but I found thian interesting read, though the writer has little time for the 80s material, which seems to be quite a consensus in the wider world. I know there are some real fans of DED on JMDL, not least myself. Happy Saturday Anita > http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/23/joni-mitchell-best-songs-albums/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:31:29 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: even even more holy hannah Les....who wrote this?? I will enjoy taking my time to read... love, MagsB ps fwiw and immho.....the Eagles were here in recent years....and it is a darned shame that half of them won't speak to the other half...Imagine !!!B From: Les Irvin To: JMDL JMDL Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:10 PM Subject: even even more The epic tales of Laurel Canyonbs heyday continues to linger like the ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:13:51 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: The new JMDL, update I just discovered that Google places a 100-member limitation (per 24-hour period) when adding names directly to the new list. So, it's going to take a week or so to transition everyone. If you've not yet gotten a welcome message from Google Groups, you can add yourself immediately by going here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/jmdl SMOE will stay active until everyone is transitioned. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:26:39 -0500 From: lcs4bike@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Joni's birthday gift Sue & Jamie, It would be nice to get a "got it" confirmation that what we send (all formats) was received. If that is too much trouble never mind. Thanks for putting it all together! Also, are we going to be able to see the final product? Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 24, 2015, at 2:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, October 24 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 721 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Joni birthday card: Issues with my email are not a problem ["Susan E. McN] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:07:50 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: Joni birthday card: Issues with my email are not a problem > > Hi Gang, > > If you get a bounce message from me, it's because I forward my Cornell address > to my gmail.com account. This means that I am receiving your email with > photos no problem through my cornell account, but my gmail.com account is > being persnickety. Just delete these messages. > > Thanks, Sue > > Sue Tierney McNamara > sem8@cornell.edu > www.youtube.com/user/SueTierney16 > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2015 #721 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:34:29 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: even even more Oops, sorry everyone. This post was sent in error. On 10/24/2015 12:31 PM, wrote: > > The epic tales of Laurel Canyonbs heyday continues to linger like the ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:43:39 -0700 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: JM's birthday Narcissism? I think that's a bit extreme. Real narcissism is no joke and actually something to take very seriously. But all we're talking about here is creative project involving a birthday card from the JMDL. I say let's have some fun with it. And be classy...but definitely don't take it too seriously. Victor in Bend On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I love this idea. OK everyone, let's have another half day to discuss this and then tomorrow I will send out the official request for content. I'm very grateful, Jamie, that you are willing to do this! Thanks everyone for sending in your 2 cents before we start production!!! Very exciting! > > Love, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Zubairi home > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:24 PM > To: Joni JMDL > Subject: Re: JM's birthday > > The idea would be a video or photo montage of faces or groups of faces (if people live close to each other) rather than a card with just words. The idea being, like the end of Spartacus, where Kirk Douglas is faced with a sea of people who support him and are on his side. Sometimes people forget what they mean to others. That's what the faces do, they make the birthday wishes real. Rather than her opening a card and it's like Being John Malkovich where is just a sea of John Malkovich's face repeated. Quite disturbing! > > Then at least Joni has the option of playing it through (or not, if she's bored of it after 30 seconds!) , rather than limiting her experience of something that could be special. If it's done well, it could tell its own story. > > I like the idea of the landscapes too. Either painted (hers) or photos of what means special to us (and you didn't mind it being slightly edited to unify the video) . It's all possible and wouldn't (in theory) need much editing. Just a little storyboarding. And could all be under 5 minutes (should be!). > > This could be done in a variety of ways. > > Just photos > Photos with quotes on them > Photos with sound clips > Photos, videos and sound clips. > > I'm up for it but I'll go with the group decision > > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, Voiceover, Photographer ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #722 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------