From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #672 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, October 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 672 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Joni's birthday [Michael Sentance ] RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 ["kimberly" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 ["kimberly" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:13:01 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: Joni's birthday Hi Michael, Are you saying people would submit their own concert photos? Or would we find photos from the web? Sue Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Michael Sentance wrote: > > As others have made suggestions, I'll offer my idea: - > > Photos of where Joni has performed. I wasn't thinking of the arenas and > stadiums that she appeared but the more modest sites that where she played. > For example, her first appearance in Massachusetts was (I think) opening > for Tom Rush at a free concert in Stoneham. She also appeared at Club 47, > the area colleges and - perhaps infamously - at the Boston Common. I think > that it ought to be about her, not us. > > Just my two cents. > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:54:46 -0400 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Joni's birthday As others have made suggestions, I'll offer my idea: - Photos of where Joni has performed. I wasn't thinking of the arenas and stadiums that she appeared but the more modest sites that where she played. For example, her first appearance in Massachusetts was (I think) opening for Tom Rush at a free concert in Stoneham. She also appeared at Club 47, the area colleges and - perhaps infamously - at the Boston Common. I think that it ought to be about her, not us. Just my two cents. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:32:15 -0700 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 BTW, Speaking of Joni's birthday I wanted you to know that the "Celebration Of Joni Mitchell" band will be playing next Sunday Oct. 25th 7-9PM in Santa Barbara, CA @ Soho Music Club. This was as close to her birthday as we could get. We are a 6 piece band blissfully playing all Joni. If anyone is nearby we would love for you to join us. There is more on our website, www.celebrationofjonimitchell.com. After reading more comments below, I like the photo montage idea. I know Jim has lots from the Joni Fest. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 JMDL Digest Saturday, October 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 671 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: I'm back. (njc) [pat holden ] Re: joni [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: JM's birthday [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: Joni Birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: Joni Birthday [Jamie Zubairi home ] Re: Joni Birthday [lcs4bike@yahoo.com] Re: Joni birthday [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: JM's birthday [pat holden ] Re: I'm back. (njc) [Michael Paz ] Judy about Joni [lcs4bike@yahoo.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:14:29 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: I'm back. (njc) Welcome back !!!! From: Sue Cameron To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:50 PM Subject: I'm back. (njc) Suze here. Sincerely, if Pat Holden (Mags) is back then I'm jumping in too!B Everyone is returning for the 20th reunion. Suze, formery from Michigan, now in Milwaukee Wisconsin. Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:15:20 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: joni That would be better, especially since she is probably home-bound for now In a message dated 10/16/2015 1:06:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gay.reimers@Simplot.com writes: I agree why send photos of fans, pictures of places her songs hit you at maybe but pics? - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:20:18 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: JM's birthday A photo montage is not a bad idea, but since Joni is probably homebound these days, perhaps collection of photos of beautiful and peaceful scenes of places remind us of her music. In a message dated 10/16/2015 1:17:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sem8@cornell.edu writes: What would you suggest, Paul? - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of IVPAUL42@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:17 PM To: joni@smoe.org; onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JM's birthday Is there such a thing as group narcissism? Why would anyone think she wants to see photos of us, as a birthday present, no less. In a message dated 10/16/2015 11:30:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I'm up for the idea of a picture of ourselves - Joni doesn't need to see Joni, right? I'm sure she'd appreciate a montage (everyone likes a montage right?) of our faces. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:08:43 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni Birthday Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to compile, I think. - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of lcs4bike@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List Subject: Re: Joni Birthday Jamie wrote: In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a headshot Hi Jamie! Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 20:14:37 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi home Subject: RE: Joni Birthday I have one going spare that I've never used! Jamie Zubairi Actor, Artist, Voiceover, Photographer On 16 Oct 2015 20:08, "Susan E. McNamara" wrote: > Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and > dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was > thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of > beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. > Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to > compile, I think. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > lcs4bike@yahoo.com > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM > To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List < > joni@smoe.org> > Subject: Re: Joni Birthday > > Jamie wrote: > > In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private > link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on > their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). > > I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a > headshot > > Hi Jamie! > > Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or > computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds > perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the > snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email > it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! > > Love, > Laura > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:15:35 -0500 From: lcs4bike@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Joni Birthday Wow... so cool!!! How about this as a start? Happy Birthday Joni!!! With Love, The JMDL Narrated by Jamie Zubairi Dearest Joni, we are those connected throughout the world because of our common love for you as you have touched and continue to touch our lives by your music, painting, and dance. We are a diverse international group who have become dear friends with each other but would not have otherwise met if it hadn't been for you sharing your talent and good heart with the world. We want to express our deepest gratitude and wish you a very happy birthday in this video. Roll 'em!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Jamie Zubairi home wrote: > > I have one going spare that I've never used! > > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, Voiceover, Photographer > >> On 16 Oct 2015 20:08, "Susan E. McNamara" wrote: >> Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to compile, I think. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of lcs4bike@yahoo.com >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM >> To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List >> Subject: Re: Joni Birthday >> >> Jamie wrote: >> >> In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). >> >> I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a headshot >> >> Hi Jamie! >> >> Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! >> >> Love, >> Laura >> >> Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:32:37 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Joni birthday Jamie wrote: > > "In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private > link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on > their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available)." Don't you think Joni might die of boredom? She's survived this far, why put her well being at risk? Something simple, Sue, anything that you feel able to put together. Maybe "Happy Birthday, Joni, with love from JMDL. Hope you're feeling better." Or something similar. I did think a beautiful place (only because, when I met her at Ruby Lake she kept saying to me 'Look at this beautiful place") where we listened to her music, but even that seems a lot to undertake. Anita - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: JM's birthday fantastic... Thanks so much for your efforts xoB love, Mags From: Susan E. McNamara To: Jamie Zubairi home ; Joni JMDL Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: RE: JM's birthday I love this idea.B OK everyone, let's have another half day to discuss this and then tomorrow I will send out the official request for content.B I'm very grateful, Jamie, that you are willing to do this!B Thanks everyone for sending in your 2 cents before we start production!!! Very exciting! Love, Sue - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:21:34 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I'm back. (njc) Oh shit will you bring me a new one? I am not as tall as I use to be. ;) On Oct 16, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Jimmy Stewart wrote: Not of Suze!!!! Sweetest lady ever!! Hope to see you Paz next weekend wearing your gourd lol ....gesendet von meinem iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > > Be vewy vewy afwaid!!!! > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Sue Cameron wrote: > > Suze here. Sincerely, if Pat Holden (Mags) is back then I'm jumping in too! > Everyone is returning for the 20th reunion. > > Suze, formery from Michigan, now in Milwaukee Wisconsin. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:25:48 -0500 From: lcs4bike@yahoo.com Subject: Judy about Joni Judy wrote on Facebook: "NEWS ON JONI -- I have just heard from a close mutual friend that Joni is walking, talking, painting some, doing much rehab every day, and making good progress--I have another friend who went through something similar-it does take a long time, three years for my friend, who has realy totaly recovered professionally and personally. I will try my best to see our songbird when I am in LA in the coming weeks-- So--some good news!!" Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #671 ***************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:20:44 -0700 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 What about a picture of us at the Joni Fest with our T-shirts on? Is that too corny? There were so many wonderful shots of us just being together in her honor. Maybe that would make her happy, knowing she and her music sparked a sort of music love-in in her honor. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #671 JMDL Digest Saturday, October 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 671 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: I'm back. (njc) [pat holden ] Re: joni [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: JM's birthday [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: Joni Birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: Joni Birthday [Jamie Zubairi home ] Re: Joni Birthday [lcs4bike@yahoo.com] Re: Joni birthday [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: JM's birthday [pat holden ] Re: I'm back. (njc) [Michael Paz ] Judy about Joni [lcs4bike@yahoo.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:14:29 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: I'm back. (njc) Welcome back !!!! From: Sue Cameron To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 9:50 PM Subject: I'm back. (njc) Suze here. Sincerely, if Pat Holden (Mags) is back then I'm jumping in too!B Everyone is returning for the 20th reunion. Suze, formery from Michigan, now in Milwaukee Wisconsin. Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:15:20 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: joni That would be better, especially since she is probably home-bound for now In a message dated 10/16/2015 1:06:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gay.reimers@Simplot.com writes: I agree why send photos of fans, pictures of places her songs hit you at maybe but pics? - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:20:18 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: JM's birthday A photo montage is not a bad idea, but since Joni is probably homebound these days, perhaps collection of photos of beautiful and peaceful scenes of places remind us of her music. In a message dated 10/16/2015 1:17:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sem8@cornell.edu writes: What would you suggest, Paul? - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of IVPAUL42@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:17 PM To: joni@smoe.org; onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JM's birthday Is there such a thing as group narcissism? Why would anyone think she wants to see photos of us, as a birthday present, no less. In a message dated 10/16/2015 11:30:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I'm up for the idea of a picture of ourselves - Joni doesn't need to see Joni, right? I'm sure she'd appreciate a montage (everyone likes a montage right?) of our faces. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:08:43 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni Birthday Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to compile, I think. - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of lcs4bike@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List Subject: Re: Joni Birthday Jamie wrote: In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a headshot Hi Jamie! Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 20:14:37 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi home Subject: RE: Joni Birthday I have one going spare that I've never used! Jamie Zubairi Actor, Artist, Voiceover, Photographer On 16 Oct 2015 20:08, "Susan E. McNamara" wrote: > Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and > dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was > thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of > beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. > Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to > compile, I think. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > lcs4bike@yahoo.com > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM > To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List < > joni@smoe.org> > Subject: Re: Joni Birthday > > Jamie wrote: > > In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private > link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on > their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). > > I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a > headshot > > Hi Jamie! > > Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or > computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds > perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the > snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email > it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! > > Love, > Laura > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:15:35 -0500 From: lcs4bike@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Joni Birthday Wow... so cool!!! How about this as a start? Happy Birthday Joni!!! With Love, The JMDL Narrated by Jamie Zubairi Dearest Joni, we are those connected throughout the world because of our common love for you as you have touched and continue to touch our lives by your music, painting, and dance. We are a diverse international group who have become dear friends with each other but would not have otherwise met if it hadn't been for you sharing your talent and good heart with the world. We want to express our deepest gratitude and wish you a very happy birthday in this video. Roll 'em!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Jamie Zubairi home wrote: > > I have one going spare that I've never used! > > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Artist, Voiceover, Photographer > >> On 16 Oct 2015 20:08, "Susan E. McNamara" wrote: >> Joni likes keepsakes, I know she saved a lot of mementos for her mom and dad of concert flyers and news clippings. I've never owned one but I was thinking about one of those digital photo frames that we can load photos of beautiful places and messages that would work off a CD or flash drive. Jamie does that sound OK (or cheesy?) That would make things easier to compile, I think. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of lcs4bike@yahoo.com >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:33 PM >> To: Jamie 'Zooby' Zubairi ; Joni List >> Subject: Re: Joni Birthday >> >> Jamie wrote: >> >> In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available). >> >> I wouldn't mind spearheading the video job.... but happy to provide a headshot >> >> Hi Jamie! >> >> Awesome!!! It would be easy for most of us to use our phones, iPads, or computers to take a short video clip message (limited to 15 seconds perhaps?) or a snapshot of a beautiful place with a typed message in the snapshot saying thank you to Joni from so and so in whatever city and email it to you. I'm game! Just say the word! >> >> Love, >> Laura >> >> Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:32:37 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Joni birthday Jamie wrote: > > "In fact would a video of our faces be better? We could send the private > link to someone who knows Joni personally and they can show it to her on > their iphones/iPads (other smartphone/tablet devices are available)." Don't you think Joni might die of boredom? She's survived this far, why put her well being at risk? Something simple, Sue, anything that you feel able to put together. Maybe "Happy Birthday, Joni, with love from JMDL. Hope you're feeling better." Or something similar. I did think a beautiful place (only because, when I met her at Ruby Lake she kept saying to me 'Look at this beautiful place") where we listened to her music, but even that seems a lot to undertake. Anita - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC) From: pat holden Subject: Re: JM's birthday fantastic... Thanks so much for your efforts xoB love, Mags From: Susan E. McNamara To: Jamie Zubairi home ; Joni JMDL Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: RE: JM's birthday I love this idea.B OK everyone, let's have another half day to discuss this and then tomorrow I will send out the official request for content.B I'm very grateful, Jamie, that you are willing to do this!B Thanks everyone for sending in your 2 cents before we start production!!! Very exciting! Love, Sue - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:21:34 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I'm back. (njc) Oh shit will you bring me a new one? I am not as tall as I use to be. ;) On Oct 16, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Jimmy Stewart wrote: Not of Suze!!!! Sweetest lady ever!! Hope to see you Paz next weekend wearing your gourd lol ....gesendet von meinem iPhone > On Oct 16, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > > Be vewy vewy afwaid!!!! > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Sue Cameron wrote: > > Suze here. Sincerely, if Pat Holden (Mags) is back then I'm jumping in too! > Everyone is returning for the 20th reunion. > > Suze, formery from Michigan, now in Milwaukee Wisconsin. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:25:48 -0500 From: lcs4bike@yahoo.com Subject: Judy about Joni Judy wrote on Facebook: "NEWS ON JONI -- I have just heard from a close mutual friend that Joni is walking, talking, painting some, doing much rehab every day, and making good progress--I have another friend who went through something similar-it does take a long time, three years for my friend, who has realy totaly recovered professionally and personally. I will try my best to see our songbird when I am in LA in the coming weeks-- So--some good news!!" 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