From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #437 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 437 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list [Corey] [none] [David Lahm ] Jonifest 2015 - the latest list of attendees [Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. > On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and > "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! > But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as > one of the strongest ever which is true. > > Bob > > NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" > > > > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , > Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM > Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time > list > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters > > Guess who is #1! > > Sue Tierney McNamara > Email: sem8@cornell.edu > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:37:41 -0400 From: David Lahm Subject: [none] That list is........(there are no words) DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:26:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Muller Subject: Jonifest 2015 - the latest list of attendees Hi All - since some folks have been asking for it - here's a list of who is coming to Jonifest. Bob MullerJanine Sherman & Betty Craig Jenkins, Laura and a daughter Michael Paz Sue Tierney, Julie, Jim TierneyLes Irvin & Jahida EsperanzaSteve Dulson & Michelle Phyliss & Bob WardRichard FlynnCindy Vickery & her daughter MargaretSuze Cameron Jim Lamadoo BarbaraAnn Little Kimberly Ford Laura Stanley Now let's see...is there anyone I'm leaving out? Oh yeah, Chuck Mitchell will be here too. How do you like them apples? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:33:18 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list Not sure about that. Of the pre-Beatles rock acts, which usually seem to be around there, it's usually Elvis I would think but obviously he doesn't qualify here. Chuck Berry definitely has the biggest legacy after Elvis, so it doesn't surprise me. > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >> >> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. >> >> >> >>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >>> >>> I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and >>> "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! >>> But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as >>> one of the strongest ever which is true. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>> To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , >>> Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM >>> Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time >>> list >>> Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters >>> >>> Guess who is #1! >>> >>> Sue Tierney McNamara >>> Email: sem8@cornell.edu >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >>> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >>> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >>> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >>> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >>> this message is prohibited. 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And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 8/17/15, Victor wrote: Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list To: "Dave Blackburn" Cc: "Corey Blake" , "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" , "Sue McNamara" , "JMDL JMDL" Date: Monday, August 17, 2015, 6:54 PM Lol...I think CSN got snubbed too...and Pink Floyd! But they have Kanye West in there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > No Victor, but Lou Reed is in there, that pioneer of melody, harmony and original form. But at least Stevie Wonder is ahead of him! > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Victor wrote: >> >> Where are any of the great prog rock bands: Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis??? Did Peter Gabriel make the list? >> >> No mention of Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. And Tom Waits is way too low down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: >>> >>> And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >>>> >>>> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and >>>>> "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! >>>>> But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as >>>>> one of the strongest ever which is true. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>>>> To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , >>>>> Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time >>>>> list >>>>> Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters >>>>> >>>>> Guess who is #1! >>>>> >>>>> Sue Tierney McNamara >>>>> Email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:28:00 -0700 From: Victor Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list Where are any of the great prog rock bands: Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis??? Did Peter Gabriel make the list? No mention of Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. And Tom Waits is way too low down. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >> >> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. >> >> >> >>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >>> >>> I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and >>> "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! >>> But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as >>> one of the strongest ever which is true. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>> To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , >>> Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM >>> Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time >>> list >>> Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters >>> >>> Guess who is #1! >>> >>> Sue Tierney McNamara >>> Email: sem8@cornell.edu >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >>> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >>> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >>> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >>> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >>> this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >>> contact the sender and delete the material from any and all >>> computers and other devices. >>> >>> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >>> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:54:15 -0700 From: Victor Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list Lol...I think CSN got snubbed too...and Pink Floyd! But they have Kanye West in there. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > No Victor, but Lou Reed is in there, that pioneer of melody, harmony and original form. But at least Stevie Wonder is ahead of him! > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Victor wrote: >> >> Where are any of the great prog rock bands: Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis??? Did Peter Gabriel make the list? >> >> No mention of Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. And Tom Waits is way too low down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: >>> >>> And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >>>> >>>> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and >>>>> "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! >>>>> But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as >>>>> one of the strongest ever which is true. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>>>> To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , >>>>> Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time >>>>> list >>>>> Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters >>>>> >>>>> Guess who is #1! >>>>> >>>>> Sue Tierney McNamara >>>>> Email: sem8@cornell.edu >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >>>>> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>>>> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >>>>> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >>>>> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >>>>> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >>>>> this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >>>>> contact the sender and delete the material from any and all >>>>> computers and other devices. >>>>> >>>>> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >>>>> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:32:31 -0400 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list That one confuses the hell out of me too. Groundbreaker? yes. Influence on a whole bunch of rockers? Yes. But songwriter? naaah, I think not. Cuz "my Dingaling" has such great lyrics! > On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >> >> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:30:30 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list, njc Gees. You and Kate Bennett! :) Bob Dylan may be a terrible husband, but he lifted us forever above this stuff: >I love >I love >I love my little calendar girl. >Everyday, >everyday, >everyday of the year. Without Dylan kicking the wall down, we wouldn't have "Boston". Okay, maybe that's not the best example... As for Chuck Berry, he may be a terrible husband, but... Jim >From: Dave Blackburn Really? Really? Dylan? Does he convey his talent on a special wavelength that my receiver doesnbt have or something? And Chuck Berry, ahead of Joni Mitchell? What planet is this, again?> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:32:25 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list I know I'm nit-picking but I agree with that sentence too Bob. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:25 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: 'joni@smoe.org' Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as one of the strongest ever which is true. Bob NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" From: "Susan E. McNamara" To: "'joni@smoe.org'" , Date: 08/17/2015 05:04 PM Subject: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters Guess who is #1! Sue Tierney McNamara Email: sem8@cornell.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:51:24 +0100 From: Anita Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list On 17 Aug 2015, at 22:14, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Really? Really? Dylan? Does he convey his talent on a special wavelength that my receiver doesnbt have or something? No, Dave. You just have ears for what's in tune, so that's your handicap here, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:49:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time list If more people had the patience to let art happen to them Rush, TULL, Yes and Genesis would be there. Genesis might be there anyway as well but it would be more for "I Can't Dance" (the song) and Invisible Touch (the song.) If those bands went right into a "top" anything list then they probably wouldn't have been as good.-Clint On Monday, August 17, 2015 5:40 PM, Victor wrote: Where are any of the great prog rock bands: Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis??? Did Peter Gabriel make the list? No mention of Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden. And Tom Waits is way too low down. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And has #4 always been Chuck Berry? > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Corey Blake wrote: >> >> These lists are made to quibble or protest over the order. I'm less concerned with the relative ranking. That she's rightfully in the top 10 makes me happy. Rock royalty is pretty entrenched. The top 3 are always going to be Dylan and The Beatles. >> >> >> >>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >>> >>> I'm OK with that list. It is goofy that they mention "Both Sides Now" and >>> "Clouds" as if they are two different songs. D'oh! >>> But all in all, great praise and they rightfully call her 1970-1974 run as >>> one of the strongest ever which is true. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> NP: Wolf Alice, "Giant Peach" >>> >>> >>> >>> From:B "Susan E. McNamara" >>> To:B B "'joni@smoe.org'" , >>> Date:B 08/17/2015 05:04 PM >>> Subject:B B B B Joni #9 in Rolling Stones Top 100 Songwriters of All Time >>> list >>> Sent by:B B B B owner-joni@smoe.org >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters >>> >>> Guess who is #1! >>> >>> Sue Tierney McNamara >>> Email: sem8@cornell.edu >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >>> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material.B >>> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >>> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >>> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >>> this message is prohibited. 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