From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #371 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 23 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 371 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni heaven [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni heaven [lawntreader@googlemail.com] Re: Joni heaven ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Free Hotel Room in Paris [Jeff Clark ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #730 [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Graham and Joni ["Paul Meyer-strom" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:50:16 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni heaven Well said, Mark - like you always do. That's why I said what I said about Free Man in Paris yesterday. You just never know who is out there and may not have been privy to the many discussions that have been had over all these years. I try to be respectful of that and welcoming to everyone as most of us do. Sometimes I have to resist the temptation to jump in and give other folks a chance. By the same token, the community does have history, whether it's long-running discussions, in-jokes, Jonifest remembrances etc. I would hope that someone new to the group wouldn't be put off by that but rather would be impressed by the family-like community we have and that it's not just a message board made up of random strangers. Bob NP: My Morning Jacket, "Off The Record" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I'm not saying anyone should feel they shouldn't share those memories but when new people come on board and want to discuss Joni's music, they should have a forum to do that like we all did when the list began." Mark, you are so right. I am particularly guilty of waxing lyrically about the past, but I would so hate it if people felt excluded or unable to share because of that. So bring it all on! I go on and on about those things because I felt so isolated for so long with my love for Joni's music and then found JMDL and Joni Fests....oh, here I go again. I have to tell you that I had the good fortune to meet Malka's husband, Marv, when they were over here. I started to tell him about Joni Fest 2003 and he patiently and kindly put his hand on my arm,looked me straight in the eye and said, "My dear, do you have an off switch?" Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 05:52:18 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni heaven I look forward to reading it as well. And why should anybody who is coming to the list as a new member or one returning after a long absence feel constrained to discuss something just because it may or may not have been discussed before? Maybe some of us should either sit back and let the new people have their say and engage with one another or contribute our thoughts anyway even if we have expressed them before instead of saying 'oh we hashed that one out several years ago' and/or referring them to the archives. It seems to me that it would keep the list more vital and fresh if new people were encouraged to contribute more or some of us oldies engaged in some discussion with them. Reminiscences about past gatherings among the more long term members are fine but might make some feel left out who were either unable to attend those past Jonifests or who weren't part of the list when they happened. I'm not saying anyone should feel they shouldn't share those memories but when new people come on board and want to discuss Joni's music, they should have a forum to do that like we all did when the list began. Just saying. Mark in Seattle. - -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Zubairi home Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:22 AM To: mep@chorus.net Cc: Anita Gabrielle ; joni List Subject: Re: Joni heaven I for one, would love to read that Mary! Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Recent work *Gopala - *A dance performance at LSO 20th March 2015 LSO St Luke's, Old Street *Adding The Blue*, as the artist in Chrissie Hynd's music video *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies Jan 2015 *Expectations* Ovalhouse supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. Awards: Ovalhouse Associate Artist 2014 Arts Admin Associate Artist 2010 On 22 July 2015 at 15:41, mep@chorus.net wrote: > I wrote, and Anita responded: > > "> Mary P., > > Still waiting for that symposium presentation, or maybe book, on > "Religion and the Spirituality of Joni Mitchell"! B > > Reckon I know someone who could do that? How about it, Mary? :-))" > > Anita, like the good therapist that she is, turned this one right back on > me! "Be the change you want to see in the world," and all that. > > And I must say, I feel woefully inadequate for the task: much more so > than I would have 20 years ago, when I was much more certain about many > things. But maybe that means I could actually do it! > > Starting small, I do have an alternate interpretation of that line. I > will try to post it in the next day or so, and apologize in advance if > what > I say has already been beaten into the ground during my ten-year foray to > the convenience store to get milk. > > Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:48:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Free Hotel Room in Paris Betsy wrote:<> That was called "Inventing David Geffen". I picked it up at the library not long ago. It did have very clever animation, with lots of Joni, probably more of Laura, and everyone else. Fun to watch. His favorite song was Buffalo Springfields "When the Dream Came" which opens and closes the movie.RR talks in depth about the Paris trip in the bonus features.Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:44:09 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #730 I maintain, and have read elsewhere, that the "Lord on Death Row" is a reference to Charles Manson getting the death penalty in LA for orchestrating the Tate-LaBianca murders. To his followers, Manson was god. The timing fits and, before the murders, Manson was popular among the counterculture folks that Joni hung out with. Paul I In a message dated 7/23/2015 3:12:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Catherine wrote (and others followed): "It has to do with the "Is God dead?" question that was being discussed around the time. I remember a Time magazine cover, for some weird reason, that turns out to have been printed in 1966. The album came out in 1973. Joni wonders whether God is dead. He is, at the very least, on death row, so his time may be up. But Joni is also a fan of Nietzsche, who said that God was dead. (Can one be a *fan* of Nietzsche? Well, y'know...)" I understand the "God is dead" and Nietzsche references. B But my reaction upon hearing the line "and the Lord on death row" is always, "Well, what did he do?" B There seems to be the suggestion of a crime, and a heinous one at that. Would Nietzsche, and maybe Joni, say that God is not only nearly dead but indeed sentenced to death because he committed many crimes. . .or at least, that many crimes were committed in the name our conception of God? B Or perhaps "God's" only crime was not keeping up with modernity? Mary P., Still waiting for that symposium presentation, or maybe book, on "Religion and the Spirituality of Joni Mitchell"! B ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:29:21 -0700 From: "Paul Meyer-strom" Subject: Re: Graham and Joni We were able to go to the concert last night, too! Very nice, many references to Joni, having us sing Our House to Joni. Victor, I think the song that Graham referenced on the joke album for jailed Crosby, was "I'm Forever Blowing Bubba." They also included "Ring of Fire." There were a couple of things that Graham mentioned that surprised me. He talked about "Just a Song Before I Go," as having been composed on a bet with a friend from Hawaii. He said he won the bet, $500. Which all makes good sense, but I could have sworn that he said in a previous interview that he wrote it on a challenge from a cab driver in New York. Also, when he was talking about composing Cathedral, last night I think he said that Winchester Cathedral was about 15 minutes away from Stonehenge. Is it? Was he referencing Salisbury Cathedral, perhaps? He says he was pretty loaded on acid when this happened. By the way, he also said he was surprised how hot it was in Portland yesterday, 97F. He said he expected Portland to be drizzly, and referenced global climate change. (Into to singing Cold Rain.) He performed with a friend, Shane Fontayne, both playing guitars, or Shane on guitar and Graham on keyboard. Played two new songs he said they wrote together. Lovely, quiet songs, he said very personal. Paul - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Victor" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 11:56 PM To: "JMDL JMDL" Subject: Graham and Joni > The show tonight in Portland was sublime, ethereal, and simply fantastic. > Graham mentioned Joni right before the end of the first set. > At one point, some guy shouted out, I love you. Graham said whenever a man > says that to Crosby, he rejects it because it reminds him of prison. He > also mentioned something about a fake album they made up for him while he > was in prison...Blowing Blubber for Life or something. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #371 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------