From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #336 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 21 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 336 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Heaven [Catherine McKay ] Joni Heaven [Jeff Clark ] Re: Joni Heaven [Dave Blackburn ] RE: Joni Heaven ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Paz's backyard jam [Victor Johnson ] Re: Graham and Joni [Victor ] Lord on Death Row [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Paz's backyard jam [Michael Paz ] Re: Graham and Joni [Kathy Johnson ] Re: JMDL Digest ~ Amy Winehouse [Kenney C Kennedy ] Re: Graham and Joni [Corey Blake ] Re: Joni Heaven [lawntreader@googlemail.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:27:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Heaven It has to do with the "Is God dead?" question that was being discussed around the time. I remember a Time magazine cover, for some weird reason, that turns out to have been printed in 1966. The album came out in 1973. Joni wonders whether God is dead. He is, at the very least, on death row, so his time may be up. But Joni is also a fan of Nietzsche, who said that God was dead. (Can one be a *fan* of Nietzsche? Well, y'know...) This page conveniently has both the Time mag cover and the Nietzsche blurb: http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/philosophy/friedrich_nietzsche_quotes.html ________________________________ From: Jeff Clark To: JMDL JMDL Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 9:56 AM Subject: Joni Heaven Is the Lord on death row? Thinking about it, I never understood what those lines meant. Why is the Lord on death row? JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:56:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Joni Heaven Trudie wrote: <> Well, is it full of astronauts? Is the Lord on death row? Thinking about it, I never understood what those lines meant. Why is the Lord on death row? JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:33:21 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Joni Heaven Why is the Lord on death row? > JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross Neitzsche, one of Jonibs favorite thinkers. http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/philosophy/friedrich_nietzsche_quotes.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:45:33 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni Heaven The Lord on Death Row refers to the 1966 cover of Time magazine that just said Is God Dead? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_God_Dead%3F They also refer to Joni's old pal Nietzsche in the article: Nietzsche's thesis was that striving, self-centered man had killed God, and that settled that. The current death-of-God group believes that God is indeed absolutely dead, but proposes to carry on and write a theology without theos, without God. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Clark Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 9:57 AM To: JMDL JMDL Subject: Joni Heaven Trudie wrote: <> Well, is it full of astronauts? Is the Lord on death row? Thinking about it, I never understood what those lines meant. Why is the Lord on death row? JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:27:25 -0700 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Paz's backyard jam And who could forget the introduction of Happy Fucking Birthday! into the JMDL...sung for Catgirl on Friday night! On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > WOW! That was 15 years ago! Great times! Memories of 300 verses of Hit The > Road Jack ReWrite. LOL > > > > > Paz from Honduras > > > > On Jul 18, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Jim L'Hommedieu > wrote: > > That night was like being in a state of Grace. My rational side wants to say > it was sleep deprivation but that was only part of it. > > It was like being in Heaven- non stop music, everyone singing. Some amazing > experiences, especially for a programmer who worked in front of a monitor for > twenty years. The sense of belonging was palpable and, in my life, nearly > unprecedented. > >> Of course, one cannot speak of Abbey Road without recalling the > re-creation of it in Paz' back yard THAT night. You miss a Jonifest, you miss > a lot. > > Bob> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:27:44 -0700 From: Victor Subject: Re: Graham and Joni That's right, Paul, regarding the cathedral. I went to Stonehenge in '85 and remember walking to Salisbury Cathedral. I was wondering about that as well. It was a great concert indeed! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Paul Meyer-strom wrote: > > We were able to go to the concert last night, too! Very nice, many references to Joni, having us sing Our House to Joni. > > Victor, I think the song that Graham referenced on the joke album for jailed Crosby, was "I'm Forever Blowing Bubba." They also included "Ring of Fire." > > There were a couple of things that Graham mentioned that surprised me. He talked about "Just a Song Before I Go," as having been composed on a bet with a friend from Hawaii. He said he won the bet, $500. Which all makes good sense, but I could have sworn that he said in a previous interview that he wrote it on a challenge from a cab driver in New York. > > Also, when he was talking about composing Cathedral, last night I think he said that Winchester Cathedral was about 15 minutes away from Stonehenge. Is it? Was he referencing Salisbury Cathedral, perhaps? He says he was pretty loaded on acid when this happened. > > By the way, he also said he was surprised how hot it was in Portland yesterday, 97F. He said he expected Portland to be drizzly, and referenced global climate change. (Into to singing Cold Rain.) > > He performed with a friend, Shane Fontayne, both playing guitars, or Shane on guitar and Graham on keyboard. Played two new songs he said they wrote together. Lovely, quiet songs, he said very personal. > > Paul > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Victor" > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 11:56 PM > To: "JMDL JMDL" > Subject: Graham and Joni > >> The show tonight in Portland was sublime, ethereal, and simply fantastic. Graham mentioned Joni right before the end of the first set. > >> At one point, some guy shouted out, I love you. Graham said whenever a man says that to Crosby, he rejects it because it reminds him of prison. He also mentioned something about a fake album they made up for him while he was in prison...Blowing Blubber for Life or something. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:49:42 -0400 From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Lord on Death Row Jeff, Joni wrote People's Parties/Same Situation around the time that Charles Manson was sentenced to death in LA for orchestrating the Tate-LaBianca murders. To the followers of Manson's cult, he was their god. Paul In a message dated 7/20/2015 11:02:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Well, is it full of astronauts? Is the Lord on death row? Thinking about it, I never understood what those lines meant. Why is the Lord on death row? JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:58:02 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Paz's backyard jam WOW! That was 15 years ago! Great times! Memories of 300 verses of Hit The Road Jack ReWrite. LOL Paz from Honduras On Jul 18, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: That night was like being in a state of Grace. My rational side wants to say it was sleep deprivation but that was only part of it. It was like being in Heaven- non stop music, everyone singing. Some amazing experiences, especially for a programmer who worked in front of a monitor for twenty years. The sense of belonging was palpable and, in my life, nearly unprecedented. > Of course, one cannot speak of Abbey Road without recalling the re-creation of it in Paz' back yard THAT night. You miss a Jonifest, you miss a lot. Bob> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:32:03 -0600 From: Kathy Johnson Subject: Re: Graham and Joni On 2015-07-19, at 1:29 PM, Paul Meyer-strom wrote: > There were a couple of things that Graham mentioned that surprised me. He talked about "Just a Song Before I Go," as having been composed on a bet with a friend from Hawaii. He said he won the bet, $500. Which all makes good sense, but I could have sworn that he said in a previous interview that he wrote it on a challenge from a cab driver in New York. Memory is like that. Or so I'm finding, or have since I was in my forties. I recall some things quite differently than they actually were (according to my journals written at that time). Some people don't understand that and think I've been dishonest with them, but that isn't the case at all. Maybe my perspective has just changed a lot? But surely the memory of many details has. Maybe this is the case with Graham, too. Kate of the North b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal's Letter Out http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:22:20 -0500 From: Kenney C Kennedy Subject: Re: JMDL Digest ~ Amy Winehouse Just saw Amy, the documentary of the brilliant, tragic life & career of Amy Winehouse. Recommended. It is ironic to me that, probably BECAUSE of her pop music success, Joni had such a difficult time being taken seriously in jazz, which is a very cliquish (snobbish) sub-group of the music world. Ms Winehouse, by contrast, was "instantly" recognized as one of the great jazz voices in history, as evidenced by a duet she recorded with (and was instigated by) Tony Bennett -- even though Rehab was a pop hit. She was contemptuous of the successful pop acts which were her contemporaries. "The Next Generation ~ British singer Adele has credited Winehouse's success in making her and fellow British singer Duffy's journey to the United States 'a bit smoother.' Lady Gaga credited Winehouse with paving the way for her rise to the top of the charts, explaining that Winehouse made it easier for unconventional women to have mainstream pop success." wikipedia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:33:53 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Graham and Joni Awesome, thank you for this. I've never been to one of his shows but now I want to. Totally random observation: I never realized how many of his song titles have W alliterations. Well, maybe it's just those three you mentioned. On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Victor wrote: > The show tonight in Portland was sublime, ethereal, and simply fantastic. > Graham mentioned Joni right before the end of the first set. I'm the bearer > of good news, he said. Contrary to other reports, Joni is talking, very > lucid, and is expected to make a full recovery. Then he broke right into > "Our House". Sing this for Joni, he said halfway through, and asked > everybody to sing along. (Myself, I was actually singing third harmony > parts through out the show (he was accompanied by his friend Shane), mostly > to myself but sometimes louder...lol). > > At one point, some guy shouted out, I love you. Graham said whenever a man > says that to Crosby, he rejects it because it reminds him of prison. He > also mentioned something about a fake album they made up for him while he > was in prison...Blowing Blubber for Life or something. > > He told all sorts of cool stories throughout the night. Great diverse set. > Loved hearing Wind on the Water, Wasted on the Way, and Cathedral (yes, I > was singing along doing the high part). He played a newer song called > Watch Out for the Wind, written for Michael Brown who died in Missouri. He > said they actually premiered it, played it live the day it was written. > > A really cool thing happened at the end. There was a lady named Susan in > the front row. Apparently, they are friends, and her husband was seriously > injured in a car accident. She had him on FaceTime/Skype or something, and > so Graham dedicated Teach Your Children to them and everyone sang it to > him, with him on the phone. It was very moving. > > Victor in Portland > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:13:32 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Joni Heaven I never knew all that about Time magazine and Nietzsche. Isn't it great to be on the list seventeen years and find out new stuff......or maybe I just am so old I forgot....... Anita > On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:45, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > The Lord on Death Row refers to the 1966 cover of Time magazine that just said Is God Dead? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_God_Dead%3F > > They also refer to Joni's old pal Nietzsche in the article: > > Nietzsche's thesis was that striving, self-centered man had killed God, and that settled that. The current death-of-God group believes that God is indeed absolutely dead, but proposes to carry on and write a theology without theos, without God. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Clark > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 9:57 AM > To: JMDL JMDL > Subject: Joni Heaven > > Trudie wrote: > <> > > Well, is it full of astronauts? Is the Lord on death row? Thinking about it, I never understood what those lines meant. Why is the Lord on death row? > JeffNP: CSN, Southern Cross ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #336 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------