From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #324 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, July 18 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 324 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #322 [Kenney C Kennedy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 06:22:53 -0500 From: Kenney C Kennedy Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #322 p.s. "Anima rising, Queen of Queens, Wash my guilt of Eden, Wash and balance me. Anima rising, Uprising in me tonight, She's a vengeful little goddess with an ancient crown to fight" :o) <> Joni wrote in the LHMF essay that one or two musicians that worked or trIed to work on MATW said that it had an ugly melody. i contest that, as do you obviously. i played it, picked from WTRF, for a guy i knew who liked jazz and disliked her. i think it's a wonderful piece & just thought it might win him over a tiny bit. Wrong! LiH (Laughing in Head) Interesting about Jung vs Nietzsche via Joni songs. i've always preferred Jung to Freud (from reading Man and His Symbols, carefully, and from what little i know of the latter). (Nevertheless i understand how important Freud is still, from reading Paglia). Nietzsche and the whole god is dead thing, and influencing Engels and/or Marx ... don't know enough about him, but think i'm skeptical (again LiH) Cordially, kK On Jul 18, 2015, at 3:56 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > JMDL Digest Saturday, July 18 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 322 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #306 ["Pete Christensen" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 04:55:19 -0400 > From: "Pete Christensen" > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #306 > > Related to the part about bad blood...I was pleased to learn in the Malka > Marom book that Joni prefers Carl Jung to Friedrich Nietzsche. In my > personal categorizing of her songs, the hits tend more toward Jungian > imagery and the misses are when she gets Nietzsche preachy. It is purely my > own take and it seems correct that this might be the range for someone with > sun in Scorpio and moon in Pisces. I imagine that there would have been no > way to talk her out of Not to Blame. Then again, I was surprised to learn > from an interview, I think it was Rolling Stone, Joni said that everybody > hated Moon at the Window, which is a big hit for me. One of my favorites. > > Pete C. > > - -----Original Message----- > From: JMDL Digest > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:46 PM > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #306 > > > JMDL Digest Friday, July 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 306 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > - -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #301 OLD [Kenney C Kennedy > ] > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:45:28 -0500 > From: Kenney C Kennedy > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #301 OLD > > "...I [would] be even older now than I am." > > i had to calculate it, i was in the 8th grade in '66 when Joni was > photographed performing at the Riverboat in Yorkville, CN. A girl i took to > senior prom was in the 6th; a musician of some renown in these parts, we are > reacquainted and she is a UU (Unitarian) minister now, and both of us out of > the closet. They have Artist Sunday this weekend and i was asked to > perform. Banquet was a consideration (and apropos), also one of several > songs to Wordsworth poems i wrote, or another original; but decided to go > with a James Taylor medley, Soldiers / You Can Close Your Eyes. Pretty. > Dreamy. > > Listening a lot to Love Has Many Faces box set. Love. It. But while i get > that the title does not refer to Romantic Love exclusively (e.g., Lakota is > about the Native American travesty -- Joni refers to that in other songs and > wrote of her childhood fascination for Indians in Paprika Plains -- and Hana > about a hands-on social worker, etc.), i still do not understand her > selection of some songs, e.g., (the general offered) No Apologies, about a > military gang rape and corporate rape of society (which WOULD have fit into > the ballet The Fiddle and the Drum). The Tea Leaf Prophecy is notably > missing; Joni won a grammy for it and it is a love story that extends, > intact, into old age. (Had she included it, she would probably have chosen > the lesser Herbie Hancock cover on which she supplied her ravaged vocals.) > Frankly, Joni using Not To Blame is a bit hypocritical; a spitfire, she has > also been known to hit people -- this song about a fight between Darryl > Hannah and Jackson B! > rowne, and referring to the suicide of his wife, is bad blood and a > vendetta. She loves him some and hates him mostly, even though she has > mused maybe she never really loved anyone. His Fountain of Sorrow and Here > Come Those Tears Again -- i have always thought -- are about her, and > certainly Naked Ride Home in response to her Long Ride Home must be. She > criticizes Dylan in the essay, a familiar theme now; and we'll all be dead > before the dust settles and history ranks these two artistic giants, in > general and in relation to each other. i think Dylan is and will come out > on top, even though i personally prefer the songs of Joni. But Dylan, my > God, "there [IS] no comprehending." > > (i figured out apostrophes do not translate in JMDL posts, here in what may > be my last -- i will not romanticize the admirable career of Joni Mitchell > :o) > > Cordially, kK > > On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:43 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Friday, July 17 2015 Volume 2015 : Number >> 301 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Once Upon A City: Yorkville [Steve Dulson >> ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:41:13 -0400 >> From: Steve Dulson >> Subject: Once Upon A City: Yorkville >> >> Subject: TheStar: Once Upon A City: Yorkville, home of Toronto's original >> indie music scene >> >> >> Sigh...it would have been great to have experienced that...but I'd be even >> older now than I am. :) >> >> *************************************************** >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2015 #301 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2015 #306 > ***************************** > > - ------- > To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > - ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2015 #322 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #324 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------