From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #188 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, June 30 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 188 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #179 [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:37:56 -0400 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #179 I agree with that theory 100%. I do it all the time, say something that may or may not be true, in hopes that he or she who knows the truth will speak up. Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > > You will never get the old hippie out of Croz. And I doubt any of them cats that were old men ever can stop talking about the "notch" Oh snap did I say that?? > > I was pissed at Croz too but it was probably that that caused someone to set the record straight. > > > Best > > Paz > > > > On Jun 29, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Rebecca Alexander wrote: > > I was most angry at him calling Joni his old lady. How arrogant!!! > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy NoteB. 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: JMDL Digest > Date: 06/28/2015 4:44 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #179 > > > JMDL Digest Sunday, June 28 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 179 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > =?utf-8?B?UmU6IDogUmU6IERhdmlkIENyb3NieSBvbiBKb25pJ3MgaGVhbHRo? = ["=?utf] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:41:39 -0400 > From: "=?utf-8?B?Z3BrbTYyMDhAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ=?=" > Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IDogUmU6IERhdmlkIENyb3NieSBvbiBKb25pJ3MgaGVhbHRo? = > > Another great piece of news in an especially eventful news week. > > Sent from my HTC > > - ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > To: "Stephen Clifton" > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Subject: Re: : Re: David Crosby on Joni's health > Date: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 4:00 PM > > Hi Stephen! > > Thanks for de lurking! Since there has been a response from Leslie Morris > about Joni's condition, (thanks Les!) I can say honestly that I am even more > pissed at Crosby ... I'm not sure if Joni wrote the line or he did but "a loud > mouth is stricken deaf and dumb" I wonder if he will do another interview now > apologizing. > > Well I guess I should just calm down and be happy that Joni is speaking and > feeling better every day. Yeah!! > > I also think you are right that if TMZ hadn't caught the info about the > ambulance or broke the news about the court filing we may have known much > less, except for the fact that she cancelled her appearance at the SF Jazz > tribute. > > Sue > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Stephen Clifton >> wrote: >> >> Susan and all, >> I don't post much here but read everything (been a member since late 90's) >> and I must agree with you on the Crosby comments on Joni. I think this > would >> piss her off as it did me, it just rubbed me the wrong way I suppose > because >> he has always rubbed me the wrong way - he is sort of a blowhard...always >> saying "she was my old lady, man". I know she wrote "My old Man" 40 years >> ago but anyway I don't think Crosby is in her tight circle and I know she >> has one and obviously by her wishes she wants things quiet and on her > terms. >> Also, I think if TMZ had not had a lucky ambulance tracker day in Hollywood >> we might know very little of this or nothing as health and crisis has been > a >> part of her private life for her whole career. He has gotten tons of press >> off of her and I doubt these interviews would be covered as they are > without >> her reference. Malka's comments were much more encouraging and > respectfully >> vague. Crosby's comments may be true - I don't know but I wait for > something >> official beginning (hopefully) with the words "contrary to..." but now we >> have "Joni can't Speak" everywhere. Sorry for the rant. Also, Crosby has >> graciously and constantly praises Joni as better than the best, even him, I >> acknowledge that and his talent, his gift as well. And I think she had the >> best care possible. >> Stephen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:00 AM >> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >> Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #176 >> >> >> JMDL Digest Sunday, June 28 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 176 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: David Crosby on Joni's health ["Susan E. McNamara" >> ] >> Joni Covers, Volume 222 - That was just a dream some of us had [Bob >> Mulle] >> RE: Saturday thoughts about Joni [Barbara Sullivan >> ] >> Re: Saturday thoughts about Joni [Catherine McKay >> ] >> Re: David Crosby on Joni's health [Michael Paz >> ] >> Re: David Crosby on Joni's health ["mep@chorus.net" >> ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:05:27 +0000 >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >> Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health >> >> The big question I need answered for my own peace of mind is ... Can she >> communicate and does she feel loved and cared for? I feel very sad and >> slightly pissed at Crosby, but I guess I shouldn't shoot the messenger. >> >> I know Crosby has been a good friend and big part of her life and career, >> but he's really opinionated and a bit of a blabber mouth. Has Larry Klein >> made any announcements or Kilauren? The remarks by James Taylor and Graham >> Nash seemed more guarded. >> >> Continuing to pray .... Sue >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:43 AM, "mep@chorus.net" wrote: >>> >>> Mary M. Morris wrote: >>> >>> "Forgive me if this was posted already, but I just saw it. Not great >>> news, but it could be worse. >>> >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/david-crosby-joni-mitchell_n_ >>> 7673682 >>> .html" >>> >>> Mary, thanks for posting this segment: B I hadn't seen it. The >>> interview is listed as being posted on 6/26/15 (yesterday), so it's >>> one the most recent statements on Joni's health that we have. B >>> >>> Crosby confirmed that Joni "isn't talking yet"; B that's she's at home and >> recovering; that she suffered an aneurysm, and also, what some probably >> suspected: B that she wasn't found for a while. B Other than that, he > didn't >> say much new factually, which B is likely in keeping with what he knows > Joni >> would want. B What struck me, though, was his clear affection and > admiration >> for her, even after all these years. B That came through loud and clear. >>> >>> Mary P. >>> >>> P.S. B We have a radio station called Triple M in my town! >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:59:21 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Bob Muller >> Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 222 - That was just a dream some of us had >> >> Well well well...one week later and my state is going to take down their >> racist flag from the Statehouse grounds, the ACA is locked in and everyone >> gets to get married. My my my.Meanwhile here in coverville, things are >> choogling along as always and just like America we are MOVING ON with > Volume >> 222. The late Etta James gets us started with her Amelia that was never >> released and is quite nice. Several names you'll recognize on this one; >> Idina Menzel, Heart, Brian Kennedy, and lots of great recordings from them >> and others. A couple of really rare vinyl tracks (Just Like This Train & > The >> Circle Game) and all the rest. >> A mighty mighty thanks to Allan and Paul for sending me a couple of these. >> https://www.hightail.com/download/bXBaOGNVdkc4Q1NjZDhUQw >> 1. Etta James - Amelia2. Shanti - Both Sides Now3. Idina Menzel - River4. >> Irma Schultz - This Flight Tonight5. Brian Kennedy - Michael From >> Mountains6. Catherine Miles - The Last Time I Saw Richard7. Aled Jones - >> Both Sides Now8. Measha Brueggergosman - River9. Rock Kids Biz - Big Yellow >> Taxi10. Josephine Sanges - Twisted11. Bill Overton - A Case Of You12. Edith >> van den Heuvel & Frank Harrison - Both Sides Now13. Heart - The River14. >> Mike Agranoff - Urge For Going15. John Lehmann-Haupt - Just Like This >> Train16. Geri Childs - I Don't Know Where I Stand17. The Black Diamond Folk >> Group - The Circle Game18. Phil Christie - River >> 18 songs, 18 hits - enjoy! >> Bob >> NP: Alice In Chains, "Down In A Hole" >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:55:37 -0400 >> From: Barbara Sullivan >> Subject: RE: Saturday thoughts about Joni >> >> Thanks for your thoughts, they made me feel better.I was in tears yesterday >> when Crosby said she could not talk.Barb >>> From: mjsentance@gmail.com >>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:52:44 -0400 >>> Subject: Saturday thoughts about Joni >>> To: joni@smoe.org >>> >>> With David Crosby's statement, it appears that what I expected may be >> true. >>> I can only image her anger and frustration. Several years ago, an IV >>> was inserted in my hand and struck a nerve. I lost my ability to >>> undertake any fine-motor skills - like gripping and manipulating a >>> pen. I had to relearn to print and write. I once was an editorial >>> cartoonist and used to do calligraphy so I found this loss to be >> embarrassing and frustrating. >>> >>> Further, the attention that all of this has brought must trouble her >>> greatly. I was re-reading Malka Marom's conversations with Joni. In >>> the first set of conversations, Joni talked about the public scrutiny >>> of Sandra Dee's break-up with Bobby Darin and how the paparazzi >>> photographed her pain. She said "I thought that would be unbearable to >>> me -- to be looked at like a bug." Her response to the press sparked her >> poem, "The Fishbowl". >>> >>> One can imagine an updated version evolving even now. >>> >>> Two other thoughts: song is sometimes used as a therapy for people who >>> have lost speech through a brain injury. That would be a nice development. >>> >>> Also I feel certain that we will hear from Joni again, that she will >>> recover her ability speak. And the reason that I feel that way is >>> because I think she will want to yell at Crosby one more time. >>> >>> Best to all. >>> >>> Michael >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:02:42 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Catherine McKay >> Subject: Re: Saturday thoughts about Joni >> >> My thoughts exactly, Michael. >> From: Michael Sentance >> To: "joni@smoe.org" >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 2:52 PM >> Subject: Saturday thoughts about Joni >> >> >> >> Also I feel certain that we will hear from Joni again, that she will >> recover her ability speak. And the reason that I feel that way is because I >> think she will want to yell at Crosby one more time. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:09:38 -0500 >> From: Michael Paz >> Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health >> >> IT sounded to me like he was not really sure about it... >> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: >> >> The big question I need answered for my own peace of mind is ... Can she >> communicate and does she feel loved and cared for? I feel very sad and >> slightly pissed at Crosby, but I guess I shouldn't shoot the messenger. >> >> I know Crosby has been a good friend and big part of her life and career, >> but he's really opinionated and a bit of a blabber mouth. Has Larry Klein >> made any announcements or Kilauren? The remarks by James Taylor and Graham >> Nash seemed more guarded. >> >> Continuing to pray .... Sue >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:43 AM, "mep@chorus.net" wrote: >>> >>> Mary M. Morris wrote: >>> >>> "Forgive me if this was posted already, but I just saw it. Not great news, >> but >>> it could be worse. > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/david-crosby-joni-mitchell_n_767368 >> 2 >>> .html" >>> >>> Mary, thanks for posting this segment: B I hadn't seen it. The interview >> is listed as being posted on 6/26/15 (yesterday), so it's one the most >> recent statements on Joni's health that we have. B >>> >>> Crosby confirmed that Joni "isn't talking yet"; B that's she's at home and >> recovering; that she suffered an aneurysm, and also, what some probably >> suspected: B that she wasn't found for a while. B Other than that, he > didn't >> say much new factually, which B is likely in keeping with what he knows > Joni >> would want. B What struck me, though, was his clear affection and > admiration >> for her, even after all these years. B That came through loud and clear. >>> >>> Mary P. >>> >>> P.S. B We have a radio station called Triple M in my town! >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:24:00 -0400 (EDT) >> From: "mep@chorus.net" >> Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health >> >> Mark: >> >> Trusting more what Malka Marom has said occurred to me after I posted my >> comment this morning, as did uncertainty as to how much Crosby has actually >> been in contact with Joni. B On the other hand, I wouldn't put too much >> stock in the phrasing: B "To my knowledge she is not speaking yet" may have >> just been Crosby's way of attempting to be guarded (hard as that is for >> him!), or acknowledging that change was possible between his last contact >> with anyone about Joni's health and the time of the interview. B >> >> Bottom line: B we still don't know much, and may not for a while. B Sue's >> idea of praying (or meditating, or sending love to Joni, or whatever feels >> right) is the one I'm sticking with. >> >> Mary P. >> >> - ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Scott" >> To: "Michael Paz" , "Susan E. McNamara" >> >> Cc: mep@chorus.net, joni@smoe.org, joni2city@hotmail.com >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:39:03 PM >> Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health >> >> That was my impression, too, Paz. B Crosby said 'To my knowledge she is not >> speaking yet'. B Personally, I would trust what Malka Marom has to say more >> than Crosby's speculation. >> >> Mark in Seattle >> >> - -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Paz >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:09 AM >> To: Susan E. McNamara >> Cc: mep@chorus.net ; joni@smoe.org ; joni2city@hotmail.com >> Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health >> >> IT sounded to me like he was not really sure about it... >> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: >> >> The big question I need answered for my own peace of mind is ... Can she >> communicate and does she feel loved and cared for? I feel very sad and >> slightly pissed at Crosby, but I guess I shouldn't shoot the messenger. >> >> I know Crosby has been a good friend and big part of her life and career, >> but he's really opinionated and a bit of a blabber mouth. B Has Larry Klein >> made any announcements or Kilauren? The remarks by James Taylor and Graham >> Nash seemed more guarded. >> >> Continuing to pray .... Sue >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:43 AM, "mep@chorus.net" wrote: >>> >>> Mary M. Morris wrote: >>> >>> "Forgive me if this was posted already, but I just saw it. Not great news, >> >>> but >>> it could be worse. > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/david-crosby-joni-mitchell_n_767368 >> 2 >>> .html" >>> >>> Mary, thanks for posting this segment: B I hadn't seen it. The interview >>> is listed as being posted on 6/26/15 (yesterday), so it's one the most >>> recent statements on Joni's health that we have. B >>> >>> Crosby confirmed that Joni "isn't talking yet"; B that's she's at home and >> >>> recovering; that she suffered an aneurysm, and also, what some probably >>> suspected: B that she wasn't found for a while. B Other than that, he >>> didn't say much new factually, which B is likely in keeping with what he >>> knows Joni would want. B What struck me, though, was his clear affection >>> and admiration for her, even after all these years. B That came through >>> loud and clear. >>> >>> Mary P. >>> >>> P.S. B We have a radio station called Triple M in my town! >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2015 #176 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2015 #179 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #188 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------