From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #178 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, June 28 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 178 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Official statement from Leslie Morris [Les Irvin ] Re: Official statement from Leslie Morris [Jamie Zubairi home ] Re: Obergefell v. Hodges (NJC) ["mep@chorus.net" ] Beethoven [Shari Eaton ] Re: Saturday thoughts about Joni [lawntreader@googlemail.com] RE: David Crosby on Joni's health ["mep@chorus.net" ] Re: Beethoven [Gerald Kent ] Plant on Joni [Jeff Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:11:02 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Official statement from Leslie Morris To be posted to the website within the hour: Leslie Morris, Joni's conservator, has approved the following statement to be made through JoniMitchell.com: "Joni did in fact suffer an aneurysm. However, details that have emerged in the past few days are mostly speculation. The truth is that Joni is speaking, and she's speaking well. She is not walking yet, but she will be in the near future as she is undergoing daily therapies. She is resting comfortably in her own home and she's getting better each day. A full recovery is expected." You may leave your well wishes for Joni at http://weloveyoujoni.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 20:35:29 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi home Subject: Re: Official statement from Leslie Morris This is of course what we were hoping for. Malka speaks positively about Joni as if it's just going to be a matter of time. I suspect The Croz was speaking from only his knowledge of what the papers were saying and his knowledge of brain injury. I'm glad Leslie has backed up the aneurysm story but enlightened us on her prognosis. When I was 12 I had a brain haemorrhage which was caused by a malformation of veins in my brain which ruptured. Luckily I was in the back of the car with my parents so an ambulance arrived within half an hour. While recovery for me has been total, I do have effects from the bleed where the scarring has affected my peripheral vision and my visual comprehension of numbers was tricky for a while, but compared to the near total blindness and lack of feeling that I had down one side of my body, I have gone on to a world record for the highest game of cricket (Gorak Shep, Mt Everest 2009), a belt in capoeira, 2007, 2 solo stage shows which I'd written and performed (2010 and 2012). The human body is a wonderful miracle. Joni speaking? She'll be running marathons . On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Les Irvin wrote: > To be posted to the website within the hour: > > Leslie Morris, Joni's conservator, has approved the following statement to > be made through JoniMitchell.com: "Joni did in fact suffer an aneurysm. > However, details that have emerged in the past few days are mostly > speculation. The truth is that Joni is speaking, and she's speaking well. > She is not walking yet, but she will be in the near future as she is > undergoing daily therapies. She is resting comfortably in her own home and > she's getting better each day. A full recovery is expected." You may leave > your well wishes for Joni at http://weloveyoujoni.com/ > - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Recent work *Gopala - *A dance performance at LSO 20th March 2015 LSO St Luke's, Old Street *Adding The Blue*, as the artist in Chrissie Hynd's music video *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies Jan 2015 *Expectations* Ovalhouse supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. Awards: Ovalhouse Associate Artist 2014 Arts Admin Associate Artist 2010 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:39:03 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health That was my impression, too, Paz. Crosby said 'To my knowledge she is not speaking yet'. Personally, I would trust what Malka Marom has to say more than Crosby's speculation. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:09 AM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: mep@chorus.net ; joni@smoe.org ; joni2city@hotmail.com Subject: Re: David Crosby on Joni's health IT sounded to me like he was not really sure about it... On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: The big question I need answered for my own peace of mind is ... Can she communicate and does she feel loved and cared for? I feel very sad and slightly pissed at Crosby, but I guess I shouldn't shoot the messenger. I know Crosby has been a good friend and big part of her life and career, but he's really opinionated and a bit of a blabber mouth. Has Larry Klein made any announcements or Kilauren? The remarks by James Taylor and Graham Nash seemed more guarded. Continuing to pray .... Sue Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:43 AM, "mep@chorus.net" wrote: > > Mary M. Morris wrote: > > "Forgive me if this was posted already, but I just saw it. Not great news, > but > it could be worse. > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/david-crosby-joni-mitchell_n_7673682 > .html" > > Mary, thanks for posting this segment: B I hadn't seen it. The interview > is listed as being posted on 6/26/15 (yesterday), so it's one the most > recent statements on Joni's health that we have. B > > Crosby confirmed that Joni "isn't talking yet"; B that's she's at home and > recovering; that she suffered an aneurysm, and also, what some probably > suspected: B that she wasn't found for a while. B Other than that, he > didn't say much new factually, which B is likely in keeping with what he > knows Joni would want. B What struck me, though, was his clear affection > and admiration for her, even after all these years. B That came through > loud and clear. > > Mary P. > > P.S. B We have a radio station called Triple M in my town! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:52:44 -0400 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Saturday thoughts about Joni With David Crosby's statement, it appears that what I expected may be true. I can only image her anger and frustration. Several years ago, an IV was inserted in my hand and struck a nerve. I lost my ability to undertake any fine-motor skills - like gripping and manipulating a pen. I had to relearn to print and write. I once was an editorial cartoonist and used to do calligraphy so I found this loss to be embarrassing and frustrating. Further, the attention that all of this has brought must trouble her greatly. I was re-reading Malka Marom's conversations with Joni. In the first set of conversations, Joni talked about the public scrutiny of Sandra Dee's break-up with Bobby Darin and how the paparazzi photographed her pain. She said "I thought that would be unbearable to me -- to be looked at like a bug." Her response to the press sparked her poem, "The Fishbowl". One can imagine an updated version evolving even now. Two other thoughts: song is sometimes used as a therapy for people who have lost speech through a brain injury. That would be a nice development. Also I feel certain that we will hear from Joni again, that she will recover her ability speak. And the reason that I feel that way is because I think she will want to yell at Crosby one more time. Best to all. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:57:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "mep@chorus.net" Subject: Re: Obergefell v. Hodges (NJC) Jimmy wrote: "Thank you Mary. It's a proud day for all people that believe in equal rights. I know that Joni's happy, and the JMDL has always believed in equality for everyone. Love you all!" Just to clarify, although I hope it's not necessary: B my original post may have been inartfully worded. B I did not at all mean to imply that the JMDL needed special proselytizing where equality is at issue. B In my experience, this list has always been a wonderful oasis where people have been appreciated and supported for being exactly who they are, and have felt free to fully express themselves. But I mentioned the founding of the JMDL for two reasons. B 1) Obviously, I didn't know the members I mentioned before the JMDL made that possible! B And 2) that date--almost 19 years ago--provides a yardstick for how far society has come as a whole since then. B Case in point: B I was absent from the list for about ten years. B When I returned, I learned that several members for whom I have great affection are now married, which would have been impossible in any state in the U.S. (or maybe all but a tiny handful) when I left. Take care, all, Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:15:23 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Beethoven Joni being unable to talk is equivalent to Beethoven losing his hearing. Her stories and words are what enwrapped us all! She can't play guitar any longer. Can she hold a pen or type? I hate to think that she wouldn't have a way to express herself. Her machine is busted, as she once described when talking about people with attention deficit (disorder -- she was denying that it would be a disorder but rather a lack of mental discipline). What are the real chances that her machine will be repaired? And how long would it take before it's truly working again. This all makes me tremendously sad. I hope she can still work on the ballets and enjoy her time with her younger girlfriends. Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:00:08 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Saturday thoughts about Joni Michael wrote: > > Also I feel certain that we will hear from Joni again, that she will recover her ability speak. And the reason that I feel that way is because I think she will want to yell at Crosby one more time. Ha! That's great, Michael. What a great incentive :-)) Let's hope each moment brings Joni recovery, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "mep@chorus.net" Subject: RE: David Crosby on Joni's health Mary M. Morris wrote: "Forgive me if this was posted already, but I just saw it. Not great news, but it could be worse. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/david-crosby-joni-mitchell_n_7673682 .html" Mary, thanks for posting this segment: B I hadn't seen it. The interview is listed as being posted on 6/26/15 (yesterday), so it's one the most recent statements on Joni's health that we have. B Crosby confirmed that Joni "isn't talking yet"; B that's she's at home and recovering; that she suffered an aneurysm, and also, what some probably suspected: B that she wasn't found for a while. B Other than that, he didn't say much new factually, which B is likely in keeping with what he knows Joni would want. B What struck me, though, was his clear affection and admiration for her, even after all these years. B That came through loud and clear. Mary P. P.S. B We have a radio station called Triple M in my town! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:54:19 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Beethoven I am not feeling good about Joni's condition. According to Crosby she was unconscious for a long time before being discovered. This probably means she had significant lack of blood supply to her brain for a considerable amount of time, not good! Sent from my iPad > On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > > Joni being unable to talk is equivalent to Beethoven losing his hearing. Her stories and words are what enwrapped us all! > > She can't play guitar any longer. Can she hold a pen or type? I hate to think that she wouldn't have a way to express herself. > > Her machine is busted, as she once described when talking about people with attention deficit (disorder -- she was denying that it would be a disorder but rather a lack of mental discipline). > > What are the real chances that her machine will be repaired? And how long would it take before it's truly working again. > > This all makes me tremendously sad. I hope she can still work on the ballets and enjoy her time with her younger girlfriends. > > Lots of Joni, > Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:47:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Plant on Joni Lindsay wrote: <<(okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one of his heroes,waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line)>> Some months ago there was mention of a British Uncut magazine article 30 musicians pick their favorite Joni songs. It crossed my mind that I never saw it so I looked and its in the library for 2015. In it Plant talks a bit about Joni, in case you missed it. His song pick is Travelogue's Amelia. I sometimes have used the Plant/Page connection as bait for a potential budding Joniphile. I try not to press it; don't want a look that says "kindly stay away"! Pages's remarks about Joni in RS, calling her a genius and that he listened to C&S "all the time" at home directly led me to picking it up as my first one. JeffNP Franz Ferdinad, Right Thoughts, Right Words, Right Action ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2015 #178 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendto joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------