From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2015 #171 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 24 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 171 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The Jungle Line [Dave Blackburn ] RE: The Jungle Line [c Karma ] Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #167 njc [Steve Danielson ] New Release Tuesday [Jeff Clark ] Re: UNSUBSCRIBE [BreathofMusicWNG@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:23:54 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: The Jungle Line Now you can make your own loop. I should get that record too and put a loop in my looper pedal for when someone requests The Jungle Line;-) > On Jun 24, 2015, at 6:02 AM, c Karma wrote: > > Thanks heaps! Gonna get this now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:02:13 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: The Jungle Line Thanks heaps! Gonna get this now. > From: mark.travis@frontier.com > To: ckarma@hotmail.com; beatntrack@att.net; sem8@cornell.edu; bob.muller@fluor.com > CC: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: The Jungle Line > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:31:26 -0700 > > This what I found. It is on Nonesuch's website. The recording is called > "Burundi: Music from the Heart of Africa". You can stream a sample of the > track there and buy the CD and/or mp3s. > > https://tinyurl.com/osox4dy > > Mark Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: c Karma > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:20 AM > To: Dave Blackburn ; Susan E. McNamara ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: The Jungle Line > > Working too hard AND spending too much money!!!Blade will be my next call > if the quad doesn't work, as it sounds like that is the track I'm seeking > that > may have Joni's samples and loops, not that the Royal Drums of Burundi raw > tracks wouldn't be cool to have... I'll have to hit up MarkScott off list > for > the source unless he joins the conversation. > Thanks all! > CC > > > Subject: Re: The Jungle Line > > From: beatntrack@att.net > > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:09:59 -0700 > > CC: joni@smoe.org > > To: ckarma@hotmail.com > > > > Chris, > > > > Ask Mark Scott. He located the original recording last year as a > downloadable track. Not to dissuade you from building your quad system but > if > obtaining the track is the motivator you might be working too hard! > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:44 AM, c Karma wrote: > > > > > > I've re-started a project that I'd let languish too long, unfortunately. > > > Around 10 years ago, I purchased a mint condition CD-4 Quadraphonic LP > > > of > > > HOSL. It is RUMORED that the discrete 4 tracks on the Quad are set up > > > to > > > allow isolation of the Burundi drums. This is a legend I wish to prove > or > > > debunk once and for all. I'd never seen any verification on this list, > so in > > > the absence of an acquaintance with a working Quadraphonic system, I've > > > decided to build my own version 30+ years after the technology > > > collapsed. > I > > > have some of the last pieces coming within the next week or so and > provided > > > everything works, I may have the answer to a question only I seem to > > > have > > > asked. I DO think however, that isolating that track would make > performance > > > of the piece more possible for a greater number of artists. About 15 > years > > > ago, I'd heard a background track on Public Radio that I swore was the > Burundi > > > drums, without Joni's overlays. I'd back-searched it and was given a > source > > > but hit a brick wall prior to the era of digital music availability. > Very > > > unfortunately, I've since lost the information so far as I had. > > > Just throwing it out there again, does anyone know the source or > availability > > > of the track? > > > CC > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:05:41 -0700 > > > From: Lindsay Moon > > > Subject: The Jungle Line > > > > > > Some of you know my son Dennis has a band and writes music. He's > interested in > > > exploring a lot of different areas but I've tried to not overwhelm him > with > > > Joni (okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one > > > of > his > > > heroes, waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him > > > "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line) anyway. The other day > > > he > went > > > on a road trip and said he wanted to listen to "Hejira." Hey, okay. I > > > also > try > > > not to over-explain but I said it was all done on a car trip across the > U.S. > > > so no piano. He came back the next day and said he was astounded. > Yesterday, I > > > found Hissing in the car and said, "May I play you one song?" I chose > > > The > > > Jungle Line. I introduced it by saying that she'd found a recording of > African > > > Burundi drums and wrote a song over it. (The previous night, Dennis & > band > > > played at a bar where one of the pre-acts was a guy with a laptop and > > > rap > > > songs which he sang over  I'm afraid it was very hard for! > > > me to understand ) I said, "Like the guy last night, she made up a song > over > > > a song." Haha. I played the song. At the end I said, "Go ahead and call > her a > > > folksinger if you want" He said only, "That was in-SANE." Highest > compliment. > > > > > > To be continued > > > > > > Lindsay > > > > > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:02:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Steve Danielson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #167 njc Good point, I guess I'm thinking of the big superstars like Swift. I have heard Uptown Funk but not the whole album, I'll check it out. I do have albums by Mumford & Sons, The Black Keys, TheTedeschi Trucks Band, Joe Bonamassa, and a bunch of others. Most of those folks are in their 20's and 30's, and are really good. So there is hope! Steve From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: "joni@smoe.org" ; Steve Danielson Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:25 AM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2015 #167 njc Maybe I'm an old fuddy duddy but where is the currentgeneration's 'music'? It just all seems like screaming with cool video.> Seems like I've heard THAT before...ourparents, and THIER parents, and so on. Have you listened to the new Mark Ronsonrecord? I'm sure you've heard "Uptown Funk" but the entire recordis great. You could argue that most of it is a throwback to 70's soul andfunk styles but good pop is still good pop. Hozier's album from last yearwas also popular and excellent. Dig deeper below the glossy surface andyou'll find more excellent new music than you have time to listen to. Bob NP: XTC, "Cynical Days"------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material.B If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Like JT he is a dedicated working musician, projects serenity and has a wicked sense of humor.Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:27:38 -0400 From: BreathofMusicWNG@aol.com Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE GET ME OFF THIS LIST NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMMIT! In a message dated 6/24/2015 1:07:07 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org writes: JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 24 2015 Volume 2015 : Number 170 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #167 njc [Steve Danielson ] shameless [ingrid lochrenberg ] RE: The Jungle Line ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Labor Day Jonifest [Jeff Clark ] Re: The Jungle Line [Dave Blackburn ] Re: The Jungle Line [lawntreader@googlemail.com] Re: The Jungle Line [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Labor Day Jonifest [Jeff Clark ] Re: Labor Day Jonifest NJC [Michael Paz ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:28:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Steve Danielson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2015 #167 njc I had no idea what you were talking about with the ultra-violent video. But I looked it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo The violence doesn't bug me so much as it seems it's a slick Hollywood production with no music value. Maybe I'm an old fuddy duddy but where is the current generation's 'music'? It just all seems like screaming with cool video. Here's an antidote 'eyewash'. Martin Sexton's "The Way I Am". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo4fAEi6yLQ - - -Steve B - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:50:55 -0500 From: ava rosenblum Subject: Taylor Swift & Apple njc When I recently saw her most recently released ultra-violent video, IB was really disappointed in Ms. Swift. Complaining about not receivingB compensation is certainly legitimate; however, in the context ofB producing an excessively violent video, it makes me think of her as aB rather shallow person. I had begun to be a bit interested in some ofB her melodies. But that video conveys someone with littleB understanding of the impact she may have on some members of herB audience. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:57:41 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: shameless You will come off second best if you take me on. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:09:21 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: The Jungle Line Les Irvin, Laurie, Jamie, Kakki and Lesli, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounded like Brian Blade had a clean recording of the Burundi drummers playing on the sound system right before Kurt Elling's performance of the song at SFJazz. You could clearly hear the drummers voices for sure ... Chris I hope that your experiment works but if not contacting Brian Blade doesn't sound like a completely outlandish suggestion!! Sue - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:45 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: re: The Jungle Line I've re-started a project that I'd let languish too long, unfortunately. Around 10 years ago, I purchased a mint condition CD-4 Quadraphonic LP of HOSL. It is RUMORED that the discrete 4 tracks on the Quad are set up to allow isolation of the Burundi drums. This is a legend I wish to prove or debunk once and for all. I'd never seen any verification on this list, so in the absence of an acquaintance with a working Quadraphonic system, I've decided to build my own version 30+ years after the technology collapsed. I have some of the last pieces coming within the next week or so and provided everything works, I may have the answer to a question only I seem to have asked. I DO think however, that isolating that track would make performance of the piece more possible for a greater number of artists. About 15 years ago, I'd heard a background track on Public Radio that I swore was the Burundi drums, without Joni's overlays. I'd back-searched it and was given a source but hit a brick wall prior to the era of digital music availability. Very unfortunately, I've since lost the information so far as I had. Just throwing it out there again, does anyone know the source or availability of the track? CC - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:05:41 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: The Jungle Line Some of you know my son Dennis has a band and writes music. He's interested in exploring a lot of different areas but I've tried to not overwhelm him with Joni (okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one of his heroes, waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line) anyway. The other day he went on a road trip and said he wanted to listen to "Hejira." Hey, okay. I also try not to over-explain but I said it was all done on a car trip across the U.S. so no piano. He came back the next day and said he was astounded. Yesterday, I found Hissing in the car and said, "May I play you one song?" I chose The Jungle Line. I introduced it by saying that she'd found a recording of African Burundi drums and wrote a song over it. (The previous night, Dennis & band played at a bar where one of the pre-acts was a guy with a laptop and rap songs which he sang over  I'm afraid it was very hard for! me to understand ) I said, "Like the guy last night, she made up a song over a song." Haha. I played the song. At the end I said, "Go ahead and call her a folksinger if you want" He said only, "That was in-SANE." Highest compliment. To be continued Lindsay - - ------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:47:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Labor Day Jonifest <> I don't have firearms... just my butterfly collection. Jeff - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:50:39 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: The Jungle Line Great story Lindsay! Dennis could probably dig Empty Try Another too, with its loop made from cigarette machine samples - the sort of thing most folk singers do. > On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:05 AM, Lindsay Moon wrote: > > Some of you know my son Dennis has a band and writes music. He's interested in exploring a lot of different areas but I've tried to not overwhelm him with Joni (okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one of his heroes, waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line) anyway. The other day he went on a road trip and said he wanted to listen to "Hejira." Hey, okay. I also try not to over-explain but I said it was all done on a car trip across the U.S. so no piano. He came back the next day and said he was astounded. Yesterday, I found Hissing in the car and said, "May I play you one song?" I chose The Jungle Line. I introduced it by saying that she'd found a recording of African Burundi drums and wrote a song over it. (The previous night, Dennis & band played at a bar where one of the pre-acts was a guy with a laptop and rap songs which he sang over  I'm afraid it was very hard f! or! > me to understand ) I said, "Like the guy last night, she made up a song over a song." Haha. I played the song. At the end I said, "Go ahead and call her a folksinger if you want" He said only, "That was in-SANE." Highest compliment. > > To be continued > > Lindsay - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:53:29 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: The Jungle Line What a fabulous story, Lindsay. In Sane indeed! Anita > On 22 Jun 2015, at 15:05, Lindsay Moon wrote: > > Some of you know my son Dennis has a band and writes music. He's interested in exploring a lot of different areas but I've tried to not overwhelm him with Joni (okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one of his heroes, waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line) anyway. The other day he went on a road trip and said he wanted to listen to "Hejira." Hey, okay. I also try not to over-explain but I said it was all done on a car trip across the U.S. so no piano. He came back the next day and said he was astounded. Yesterday, I found Hissing in the car and said, "May I play you one song?" I chose The Jungle Line. I introduced it by saying that she'd found a recording of African Burundi drums and wrote a song over it. (The previous night, Dennis & band played at a bar where one of the pre-acts was a guy with a laptop and rap songs which he sang over  I'm afraid it was very hard f! or! > me to understand ) I said, "Like the guy last night, she made up a song over a song." Haha. I played the song. At the end I said, "Go ahead and call her a folksinger if you want" He said only, "That was in-SANE." Highest compliment. > > To be continued > > Lindsay - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:09:59 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: The Jungle Line Chris, Ask Mark Scott. He located the original recording last year as a downloadable track. Not to dissuade you from building your quad system but if obtaining the track is the motivator you might be working too hard! Dave > On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:44 AM, c Karma wrote: > > I've re-started a project that I'd let languish too long, unfortunately. > Around 10 years ago, I purchased a mint condition CD-4 Quadraphonic LP of > HOSL. It is RUMORED that the discrete 4 tracks on the Quad are set up to > allow isolation of the Burundi drums. This is a legend I wish to prove or > debunk once and for all. I'd never seen any verification on this list, so in > the absence of an acquaintance with a working Quadraphonic system, I've > decided to build my own version 30+ years after the technology collapsed. I > have some of the last pieces coming within the next week or so and provided > everything works, I may have the answer to a question only I seem to have > asked. I DO think however, that isolating that track would make performance > of the piece more possible for a greater number of artists. About 15 years > ago, I'd heard a background track on Public Radio that I swore was the Burundi > drums, without Joni's overlays. I'd back-searched it and was given a source > but hit a brick wall prior to the era of digital music availability. Very > unfortunately, I've since lost the information so far as I had. > Just throwing it out there again, does anyone know the source or availability > of the track? > CC > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:05:41 -0700 > From: Lindsay Moon > Subject: The Jungle Line > > Some of you know my son Dennis has a band and writes music. He's interested in > exploring a lot of different areas but I've tried to not overwhelm him with > Joni (okay, leaving the interview on his pillow with Robert Plant, one of his > heroes, waxing on about sitting at the feet of Joni hearing her play him > "Number One" is perhaps a little over the line) anyway. The other day he went > on a road trip and said he wanted to listen to "Hejira." Hey, okay. I also try > not to over-explain but I said it was all done on a car trip across the U.S. > so no piano. He came back the next day and said he was astounded. Yesterday, I > found Hissing in the car and said, "May I play you one song?" I chose The > Jungle Line. I introduced it by saying that she'd found a recording of African > Burundi drums and wrote a song over it. (The previous night, Dennis & band > played at a bar where one of the pre-acts was a guy with a laptop and rap > songs which he sang over  I'm afraid it was very hard for! > me to understand ) I said, "Like the guy last night, she made up a song over > a song." Haha. I played the song. At the end I said, "Go ahead and call her a > folksinger if you want" He said only, "That was in-SANE." Highest compliment. > > To be continued > > Lindsay > > ------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:38:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Labor Day Jonifest Bob wrote: <> > B I don't really go to a psychiatrist. Just exaggerate for theatrical effect. When I feel I'm losing it I just walk down the street singing Twisted over and over and sometimes Trouble Child. I'm not crazy, though, really.Jeff - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:45:42 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Labor Day Jonifest NJC OMG!! The All Stars are coming out!!!! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com The Paz Group Complete Event Production Services Artist, Tour, and Production Management michael@thepazgroup.com Contact-504-382-0343 Home Office-985-764-0395 SKYPE: jmichaelpaz On Jun 22, 2015, at 12:02 PM, bob.muller@fluor.com wrote: Just added to our attendees list: Suze Cameron and Steve Polifka - whoo hoo! Also brewing - some potentially VERY exciting news. Speaking of brewing, I better tell the local breweries to step up production. Jonifest is coming to town. Bob NP: Sneaky Feelings, "Someone Else's Eyes" - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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