From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #917 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 8 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 917 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- just one big error [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: "CSNY 1974" drops tomorrow, njc, long ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 06:35:01 +0200 From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: just one big error https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9-rZk04MqA I love Buffy St Marie's rendition of Joni's 'Song to a Seagull'... I am just sorry that she got this wrong...the written words are: ...'and humans are hungry for worlds they CAN'T share....' that's like that very attractive phrases in Hejira that says 'in our possessive coupling so much could not be expressed'. Thanks for all the guys that are still responding to me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:32:29 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: "CSNY 1974" drops tomorrow, njc, long CSN are doing a number on Fallon tonight. From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > I've always held a small grudge against CSNY for their show at Rich > Stadium in Orchard Park (Buffalo), New York (USA) during the summer of > 1974. That concert was the hottest ticket of the summer and I drove my > Dad's fully loaded 9 passenger station wagon, 90 minutes to get there. > (Remember 9 passenger station wagons?) > > Three bad things happened that day. > > First, CSNY was late. Very late. I already knew who Bill Graham was, > because Rolling Stone covered him as if he was a rock star himself, > probably because he was a product of San Francisco, just like Jann > Wenner and Rolling Stone itself. Bill Graham came out on stage and > said, "We're sorry you have to wait. Stephen is having trouble with his > guitar and he wants it to be JUST RIGHT for you." At first, I thought > that was cool- he cares about his audience. As the August 8th heat wore > on and on, I realized it was BS, and my opinion became "This is the pits!" > > Secondly, some of the harmonies were terribly off. > > Three. The traffic afterwards was absolutely awful. I don't know why, > but it took about 2 hours to get to the first Service Center on the New > York State Thruway. Everyone needed that rest room. There were no cell > phones in 1974, so the parents of all of the other kids were worried. > The parents of the girls, in particular, were BESIDE THEMSELVES with > worry. We finally rolled in about 2:30AM. > > Still, forty years is long enough to hold a grudge. Or three grudges. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > np: "Cold Cold Feeling" by T-Bone Walker > ========== > The magazine edition of Rolling Stone (Issue 1212/1213; July 3-17 2014, > with Melissa McCarthy on the cover) has an article, written by Andy > Greene. Here are some excerpts: > >It was a... disastrous reunion tour for CSNY, marked by endless > acrimony, financial misdealing and Olympian levels of drug abuse. "They > took Marlboro cigarettes, took out all of the tobacco and filled them > with marijuanna," says road manager Chris O'Dell. "There were cartons of > those. They also emptied vitamin-C capsules and filled them with > cocaine. At one point, the band spilled cocaine, and so they got down > on their hands and knees and sniffed it off the carpet." Crosby would > later refer to the whole debacle as 'the Doom Tour'. > > "In a way, David was right to call it that," says Graham Nash. "But the > music wasn't bad all the time. There were some brilliant moments."... > About four years ago, Nash decided to resurrect the project... Putting > it together required years of painstaking editiing. "If I found one > line of one vocal out of tune, says Nash, "I went to a different night > and took a line that was in tune and put it in."... > > More than half the shows were in stadiums, which presented a problem: > The PA systems of the time were not equipped for huge spaces, and much > of the music was reduced to an eardrum-smashing roar. "Neil and Stephen > were punching well over 100 decibels out their half-stacks," says > Crosby. "Graham and I couldn't always hear ourselves, so we couldn't do > the harmonies."> > ================= > One of Joel Bernstein's great photos of the band backstage is here: > http://www.jazzwax.com/2014/06/csnys-historic-1974-tour.html > ================= > An article on the Wall Street Journal site says that tickets cost about > $7.50 > http://online.wsj.com/articles/crosby-stills-nash-young-and-the-first-big-stadium-tour-1403633596 > > >*Joel Bernstein:* I first met Graham and David backstage at Joni > Mitchell's Carnegie Hall concert in 1969. I had been her photographer > since 1968, when I was still in high school. In 1970 I photographed CSNY > at the Fillmore East and took the photos for Neil Young's "After the > Gold Rush" album. When CSNY signed on for the tour and began to rehearse > at Neil's ranch in May '74, they asked me to come down.> > > >*Mr. Crosby:* Our relationships got better and worse at the same time. > After that tour, I realized that cocaine has a terrible effect on > everything and that all drugs are not the same. If we had just been > smoking pot, we probably would have been the same old band. All of us > have done better work since the tour. Individually, we didn't peak > then---but the band did.> > > *Elliot Mazer:* I recorded them in Landover, Maryland., Chicago, > Illinois, and Wembley Stadium near London---which make up 35 of the 40 > tracks in the new box set. I used two 16-track Ampex MM-1000 tape > machines and a Neve 8016 console, with 36 mics on stage and two mics on > booms in the audience about 100 feet from the stage. I wanted to capture > the music as if you were up there sitting in a recliner, but also grab > the magic of the audience. > > *Mr. Nash:* Working on the box set was the most difficult technical task > of my recording career. Joel and I had nearly 40 hours of music to go > through. Our goal was to make the music sound like one full concert, > even though it's from 10 different performances. I only wanted to > include performances that knocked me out. > =========== > An esteemed colleague pointed me to a web article from last month on the > RS site which said in part, >The set was produced by Joel Bernstein and > Graham Nash.... Nine of the shows were professionally recorded on > multi-track tapes. "We wanted the best performances of each song for > this collection," says Nash. "So Joel and I listened to every single > minute of the multi-track shows and chose the best. We'd take, say, the > best performance of 'Almost Cut My Hair' and send it to David [Crosby] > for his approval. We did the same with Stephen [Stills] and Neil [Young]." > > "Neil Young, God bless his cotton socks, has always wanted the audio > to get as close to the recording experience as possible," says Nash. "He > wanted us to do it in 24/192, and that's what we did. Of course, that > happened one-third of the way into the project, so we had to redo an > awful lot of stuff. But it sounds totally amazing. There's 40 songs and > they'll show people that we were a very, very decent rock band."> > http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/crosby-stills-nash-young-live-1974-box-set-out-this-summer-20140522 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:46:18 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "CSNY 1974" drops tomorrow, njc, long I've always held a small grudge against CSNY for their show at Rich Stadium in Orchard Park (Buffalo), New York (USA) during the summer of 1974. That concert was the hottest ticket of the summer and I drove my Dad's fully loaded 9 passenger station wagon, 90 minutes to get there. (Remember 9 passenger station wagons?) Three bad things happened that day. First, CSNY was late. Very late. I already knew who Bill Graham was, because Rolling Stone covered him as if he was a rock star himself, probably because he was a product of San Francisco, just like Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone itself. Bill Graham came out on stage and said, "We're sorry you have to wait. Stephen is having trouble with his guitar and he wants it to be JUST RIGHT for you." At first, I thought that was cool- he cares about his audience. As the August 8th heat wore on and on, I realized it was BS, and my opinion became "This is the pits!" Secondly, some of the harmonies were terribly off. Three. The traffic afterwards was absolutely awful. I don't know why, but it took about 2 hours to get to the first Service Center on the New York State Thruway. Everyone needed that rest room. There were no cell phones in 1974, so the parents of all of the other kids were worried. The parents of the girls, in particular, were BESIDE THEMSELVES with worry. We finally rolled in about 2:30AM. Still, forty years is long enough to hold a grudge. Or three grudges. Jim L'Hommedieu np: "Cold Cold Feeling" by T-Bone Walker ========== The magazine edition of Rolling Stone (Issue 1212/1213; July 3-17 2014, with Melissa McCarthy on the cover) has an article, written by Andy Greene. Here are some excerpts: >It was a... disastrous reunion tour for CSNY, marked by endless acrimony, financial misdealing and Olympian levels of drug abuse. "They took Marlboro cigarettes, took out all of the tobacco and filled them with marijuanna," says road manager Chris O'Dell. "There were cartons of those. They also emptied vitamin-C capsules and filled them with cocaine. At one point, the band spilled cocaine, and so they got down on their hands and knees and sniffed it off the carpet." Crosby would later refer to the whole debacle as 'the Doom Tour'. "In a way, David was right to call it that," says Graham Nash. "But the music wasn't bad all the time. There were some brilliant moments."... About four years ago, Nash decided to resurrect the project... Putting it together required years of painstaking editiing. "If I found one line of one vocal out of tune, says Nash, "I went to a different night and took a line that was in tune and put it in."... More than half the shows were in stadiums, which presented a problem: The PA systems of the time were not equipped for huge spaces, and much of the music was reduced to an eardrum-smashing roar. "Neil and Stephen were punching well over 100 decibels out their half-stacks," says Crosby. "Graham and I couldn't always hear ourselves, so we couldn't do the harmonies."> ================= One of Joel Bernstein's great photos of the band backstage is here: http://www.jazzwax.com/2014/06/csnys-historic-1974-tour.html ================= An article on the Wall Street Journal site says that tickets cost about $7.50 http://online.wsj.com/articles/crosby-stills-nash-young-and-the-first-big-stadium-tour-1403633596 >*Joel Bernstein:* I first met Graham and David backstage at Joni Mitchell's Carnegie Hall concert in 1969. I had been her photographer since 1968, when I was still in high school. In 1970 I photographed CSNY at the Fillmore East and took the photos for Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush" album. When CSNY signed on for the tour and began to rehearse at Neil's ranch in May '74, they asked me to come down.> >*Mr. Crosby:* Our relationships got better and worse at the same time. After that tour, I realized that cocaine has a terrible effect on everything and that all drugs are not the same. If we had just been smoking pot, we probably would have been the same old band. All of us have done better work since the tour. Individually, we didn't peak then---but the band did.> *Elliot Mazer:* I recorded them in Landover, Maryland., Chicago, Illinois, and Wembley Stadium near London---which make up 35 of the 40 tracks in the new box set. I used two 16-track Ampex MM-1000 tape machines and a Neve 8016 console, with 36 mics on stage and two mics on booms in the audience about 100 feet from the stage. I wanted to capture the music as if you were up there sitting in a recliner, but also grab the magic of the audience. *Mr. Nash:* Working on the box set was the most difficult technical task of my recording career. Joel and I had nearly 40 hours of music to go through. Our goal was to make the music sound like one full concert, even though it's from 10 different performances. I only wanted to include performances that knocked me out. =========== An esteemed colleague pointed me to a web article from last month on the RS site which said in part, >The set was produced by Joel Bernstein and Graham Nash.... Nine of the shows were professionally recorded on multi-track tapes. "We wanted the best performances of each song for this collection," says Nash. "So Joel and I listened to every single minute of the multi-track shows and chose the best. We'd take, say, the best performance of 'Almost Cut My Hair' and send it to David [Crosby] for his approval. We did the same with Stephen [Stills] and Neil [Young]." "Neil Young, God bless his cotton socks, has always wanted the audio to get as close to the recording experience as possible," says Nash. "He wanted us to do it in 24/192, and that's what we did. Of course, that happened one-third of the way into the project, so we had to redo an awful lot of stuff. But it sounds totally amazing. There's 40 songs and they'll show people that we were a very, very decent rock band."> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/crosby-stills-nash-young-live-1974-box-set-out-this-summer-20140522 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:45:53 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Complete So Far Songbook Susan, I wrote up a review a few months back and posted it to the list. If you can shoot me an email off-list I can send it to you. Mark > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 07:45:33 -0500 > From: SusanBTaylorBand > Subject: Complete So Far Songbook > > Who else owns this songbook? I would like to get some dialogue going regarding some of the charts and > chord diagrams. > > Susan in DFW ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #917 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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