From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #785 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 785 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Philomena & The Magdalene Laundries [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Shooting in California, njc [Laura Stanley ] RE: vocal range ["Susan E. McNamara" ] (NJC) Before you download the latest update to your Facebook app, read this. [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Philomena & The Magdalene Laundries [Kate Johnson Subject: RE: Shooting in California, njc Lindsay, As your story points out, there is a pattern of negligence on the part of the authorities so deranged, sick, mentally ill people slip through like this latest killer. Of course, the screening out process of candidates for the police and military is very thorough but missed the crazy military killer recently. So screening isn't the full answer. I hadn't heard the killer used three things as weapons. Killers will use whatever they can to do damage, even their own hands. Things might improve if we had people throughout society who are certified as trained in self defense who are beyond police and military, just like the medical field provides training for people beyond doctors and nurses, regular people trained and certified in First Aid. Call it training and certification in "First Defense" maybe? Love, Laura From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Shooting in California (NJC) My daughter was a freshman at her school and had some problems with a boy who exhibited some exact traits of this shooter. I called and called the school trying to get them to do something, writing emails, trying to get my daughter to contact whom she needed to. It was a run-around from one place to the next. I can only guess that because of this boy's right to privacy, etc., he too had to be protected. I kept saying to them, "But you can call his parents, call him in and ask him questions  something!" The answer was always, "Well, if he hasn't done anything" I wish there were an easier answer. It does seem that everyone in Elliot's case dropped the ball. I completely agree that some alarm somewhere should have been in place that one person buying three guns is a red flag. But this boy also stabbed his three roommates which I can't understand. So if he hadn't had access to guns, would he have just stabbed and perhaps driven into people in his car? A person this unhinged is going to find a way to "seek revenge." So, so sad. Lindsay Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:48:42 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: vocal range This is true too if you listen to the older tapes from her cafi days. While she was writing some of her classics, Chelsea Morning, Conversation, Both Sides Now, she didn't capo the guitar at all and sang them in a lower register. When she recorded them later, the capos went up the fret board to accommodate her higher range. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:38 PM To: Laurie Antonioli Cc: JMDL JMDL; joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: vocal range One interesting point to mention is that Jonis voice never was naturally a soprano (despite the Rainy Night House lyric). Her voice on the first two albums is agile and youthful but not yet helium, an effect she adopted really only on Ladies of the Canyon, and then subsequently abandoned. Listen to I Had a King or Tin Angel for example for how alto she sang before LOTC or All I Want after it. On May 26, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > Thanks, Dave. Vocal range is really an uninteresting topic unless you're into acrobatics. An important person that was left off that list was Bobby McFerrin - his vocal range is one that he uses in the most creative ways, singing bass lines while also singing melodies - at the same time - and his range allows this remarkable feat. > > I agree with what others say on this topic here in this discussion group - this is a sophisticated group of listeners - I'm afraid the "general public" is less so. I love the term "helium days" describing Joni's young voice - and thanks again, Dave, for all the work you've done transcribing and researching Joni - very valuable information on one of the most important artists of the 20th century!! > > Laurie > > > On ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:22:19 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: (NJC) Before you download the latest update to your Facebook app, read this. From http://action.sumofus.org/a/Facebook-app-taps-phones/3/3/: Facebook just announced a new feature to its app, which will let it listen to our conversations through our own phones' microphone. Talk about a Big Brother move. Facebook says the feature will be used for harmless things, like identifying the song or TV show playing in the background, but it actually has the ability to listen to everything - including your private conservations - and store it indefinitely. - ----- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:13:50 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 At the TimesTalk at Luminato Festival last year, Joni said that Myrtle called those piano lessons "a waste of money!" You should have heard the crowd moan when she said that!! A prophet is never recognized in her own town!! (paraphrase) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of SusanBTaylorBand Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:22 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 After watching the MuchMusic Intimate and Interactive video presented here a few days ago by another Digest member, Joni stated in the video that she had about two years of piano lessons, said something about getting through the second grade book, so she did have music training - and most likely learned theory and sight reading. If it was a course like John Thompson (very popular in that era) then the second grade book affords a lot of theory and sight reading opportunities. Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 777 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] > Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 [Paul Ivice ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) > From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > Subject: Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) > > Monica, > > Many thanks for posting this.I love the Shadows & Light Jam. > The two drummers and Garth and Robbie's contributions, wow, you don't > need the fretless bass. > > John > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Ivice > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 > > And then there was Vari-speed, a control on analog tape machines that > adjusted the motor speed by small amounts. Before digital recording it > was common practice to slow the tape machine a little for extra > fatness on a track or speed it up a little for extra pep, without > regard for the poor student trying to play along to it. The A440 > reference, then, has been disregarded many many times since it was > adopted. Those who cite 432Hz as a better pitch reference are in fact > hearing a little more fulness and low end than if the same music is > played at A440; I dont think theres anything celestial, spiritual or > political whatsoever going on, though we love a good mystery when > science is involved! > > Remember that all this discussion is about a woman who cannot or does > not read music,so some of the things being discussed about Joni > ascribe to her much more careful thought than the instinct I believe > she relies on for most of these decisions. > > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #777 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:29:03 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Philomena & The Magdalene Laundries I am SO looking forward to seeing this movie. Thanks for the review. Kate of the North b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com On 2014-05-27, at 11:12 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > I'm sure that someone has had to have mentioned this, but I don't recall > it. > > I watched the Oscar-nominated Stephen Frears-directed Philomena last night > and loved it. It's a true story about a young woman in Ireland who gets > pregnant and shipped off to the nunnery to serve penance. She labors in > the Laundry while her child is sold to an American couple. After 50 years > she begins the search for her child. Dame Judi Dench is her always-amazing > self in the lead role; just watching her eyes and her facial expressions > change is a wonder to behold. Doesn't go where you think it will and it > helped me to understand just how unfair and brutal this scenario was for > these young women. > > SCJoniguy gives it 2 thumbs up. > > Bob > > NP: The Jayhawks, "Black-Eyed Susan" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #785 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------