From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #781 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, May 25 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 781 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #780 [Derek Timlett ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 [Paul Ivice ] Re: vocal ranges [vern9-gmail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:22:17 +0000 From: Derek Timlett Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #780 Why not learn from what has happened in the past. Your nation is awash with over-the-counter advanced lethal weapons. The statistics are inevitable and many are getting hurt. Get rid of the guns and you will reduce the statistics. For what its worth Derek Timlett Derek's Bookshelf www.dereksbookshelf.co.uk > Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:00:02 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #780 > > > JMDL Digest Sunday, May 25 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 780 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Shooting in California, njc [LC Stanley ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 22:46:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: LC Stanley > Subject: Shooting in California, njc > > Clipped from an Internet article: "After already killing five others at his > apartment and outside a sorority house, Rodger walked into the deli and shot > Michael-Martinez, authorities said." > > I have been doing math all day today > running a business. Then I read about this tragedy, and the math didn't add > up. > > Why didn't anybody stop this murderer after he shot the first person? > Didn't anybody have any training in self-defense? Wasn't anybody armed to > defend themselves? Where were the police? Why did this guy have time to go > to three different places to kill people? Why are people sitting ducks like > this? > > My niece is going to the University of California at Santa Barbara > this Fall so this really struck home as well as thinking of Kate and Jeff. > > So > sad, > Laura > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #780 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) Axl Rose may have the widest range on this list, but he sounds lousy at every note. Quantity does not equal quality. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:03:39 -0400 From: vern9-gmail Subject: Re: vocal ranges Some of these high notes above C6 for the females belong to what is called whistle, flute register, or flageolet register. Male singers enter flageolet register at C5 and they can obviously access these notes up there as well. Maria Carey, Christina, etc... also Prince usually use it for decorative elements and for just a brief period of time. Minnie Riperton was stunning everyone when she sang, I think it was "loving you". In any case, I don't recall Joni ever getting up there. Yes, she sang high in her head voice but not as high as what's become popular today as a WOW effect with some artist, especially in pop music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistle_register Claudia On May 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 778 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: vocal ranges [Corey Blake ] > vocal ranges ["ron" ] > Joni Covers, Volume 189 [Bob Muller ] > Re: vocal ranges ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 [SusanBTaylorBand Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th [Betsy Blue ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 12:06:10 -0700 > From: Corey Blake > Subject: Re: vocal ranges > > I saw that too and have been meaning to post it here. Im curious what some of the more musically-inclined think of this. Is this right? I thought it should be a wider range, considering how high she sang in the very early days compared to her most recent work. But maybe not. > > > On May 24, 2014, at 8:38 AM, ron wrote: > >> I came across this site on another forum. >> >> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges >> >> purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to >> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) >> >> >> ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:38:33 +0200 > From: "ron" > Subject: vocal ranges > > I came across this site on another forum. > > http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges > > purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to > some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > > > ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:07:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 189 > > Howdy all, and Happy Memorial Day weekend to those of us in the USA. Got > another NEW batch of covers to lay on y'all today...most of these are from > 2011-12 with the oldest being from the 2002 Steve Klink and Rachel Z tributes. > And speaking of Steve Klink, this volume kicks off with his instrumental > version of "Cotton Avenue" which is incidentally the only one so far that I'm > aware of. > > 189 also features a nice mini-set from Florencia Otero - she's got > a great voice and has a fine band backing her up and contributing some lovely > solos. We also get a cover of "The Arrangement" which is another one we don't > hear very often. Kevin Sandbloom gives us another of his covers from his Blue > tribute. I love his voice and the twist he puts on these songs. Marge Weber, > not so much. Many other tasty nuggets to be found in this sampler. > > Zzip it! > http://ow.ly/xdB85 > > 1. Steve Klink - Cotton Avenue > 2. Mary Jane Alm - A Case > of You > 3. Leila Thigpen - Both Sides Now > 4. Florencia Otero - I Had A King > 5. > Florencia Otero - River > 6. Florencia Otero - Little Green > 7. Florencia Otero - > A Case Of You > 8. The Redbird Duo - Circle Game > 9. Will Taylor & Strings > Attached - Chelsea Morning > 10. Kamilla Kovacks - All I Want > 11. Nereide - The > Arrangement > 12. Sally Barker - Real Good For Free > 13. Lissa Schneckenburger - > River > 14. Elisa Peimer, Jon Sobel - Little Green > 15. Keiko Utoku - Both Sides > Now > 16. Rachel Z Trio - Big Yellow Taxi > 17. Kevin Sandbloom - A Case Of You > 18. Marge Weber - The Circle Game > > 18 songs, 18 hits - enjoy. > > Bob > > NP: > Florencia Otero, "A Case Of You" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:08:06 +0100 (BST) > From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > Subject: Re: vocal ranges > > Ron, > > This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon > similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. > > > Idon't believe it. > > John > >> ----Original Message---- >> From: rong@mweb.co. > za >> Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 >> To: "JMDL JMDL" >> Subj: vocal > ranges >> >> I came across this site on another forum. >> >> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> >> purports > to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > >> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared > to >> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) >> >> >> ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:22:25 -0500 > From: SusanBTaylorBand > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 > > After watching the MuchMusic Intimate and Interactive video presented here a few days ago by another Digest member, Joni stated in the video that she had about two years of piano lessons, said something about getting through the second grade book, so she did have music training - and most likely learned theory and sight reading. If it was a course like John Thompson (very popular in that era) then the second grade book affords a lot of theory and sight reading opportunities. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: >> >> >> JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 777 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] >> Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 [Paul Ivice ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) >> From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> Subject: Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) >> >> Monica, >> >> Many thanks for posting this.I love the Shadows & Light Jam. >> The two drummers and Garth and Robbie's contributions, wow, you don't >> need the fretless bass. >> >> John >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Paul Ivice >> Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 >> >> And then there was Vari-speed, a control on analog tape machines that adjusted >> the motor speed by small amounts. Before digital recording it was common >> practice to slow the tape machine a little for extra fatness on a track or >> speed >> it up a little for extra pep, without regard for the poor student trying to >> play >> along to it. The A440 reference, then, has been disregarded many many times >> since it was adopted. Those who cite 432Hz as a better pitch reference are in >> fact hearing a little more fulness and low end than if the same music is >> played >> at A440; I dont think theres anything celestial, spiritual or political >> whatsoever going on, though we love a good mystery when science is involved! >> >> Remember that all this discussion is about a woman who cannot or does not read >> music,so some of the things being discussed about Joni ascribe to her much >> more careful thought than the instinct I believe she relies on for most of >> these decisions. >> >> >> Paul Ivice ;>) >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #777 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:05:51 -0700 > From: Betsy Blue > Subject: Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th > > River was on the set list (Berlin) again today. > On May 19, 2014 1:03 PM, "Betsy Blue" wrote: > >> Here's the link to Tori singing River. If you click directly on the River >> play button, you get an older version with video. The new audio is with the >> I Knew You Were Trouble play button and starts at 40:45 into that video. >> >> http://bit.ly/1kiMEtv > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #778 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #781 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------