From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #683 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, May 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 683 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_?= [Victor ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 12:58:20 -0400 From: Victor Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_?= What's disturbing is this perpetuated belief that if anyone "doesn't like" a particular song, album, or they don't like the production, or some other aspect, that they're somehow being "mean" to Joni? Really? Does she sit high up on a pedestal, where she is beyond any criticism of anything ever? Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2014, at 9:20 AM, LC Stanley wrote: > > Thank you Shari for asking the list to "push back being so critical" of Joni. > B It gags me personally to see a bunch of relative amateurs compared to Joni > being so critical. Nobody on this list comes close to the expertise and talent > of Joni, and until somebody does it is musical masturbating (the real word!!) > of egos.B > > > Okay, steam's off now and on to the real meat of the listb& > Thank you Garret and Jamie for your very touching posts!!! Your posts were a > great way to start mother's day. B Happy Mother's Day Jonib& you are my > musical mother in a very real sense, and I love you!!! > > Love,B > Laura > > Garret > wrote: > > My first Joni album was Hits which I got a couple of years after it > was > released. I loved it by the end of the first track.B I had known Chelsea > Morning for years as my dad had had it on a tape he had made from his > brother's records.B He had mislabelled the singer as Janis Joplin. In > searching out Chelsea Morning I became a Janis fan. My dad's tape had long > been lost so I became convinced that my memory of the song was inaccurate. > Me: Great story Garret!! B Janisb& that's funny!!! > > A friend I had not seem > for years sent me a gift voucher for a music shop > unexpectedly.B I was > browsing and liked the cover of Hits. Just like you > said Jamie,B discovering > Joni really set a high standard in what I > considered to be great music.B A > lot of the music I had listened to as a > teenager suddenly seemed less > powerful,B less genuine,B and less > interesting. > > Me: My sentiments and > experience too! B And it still holds. > > As far as I can recall I then started > buying other Joni albums that were > represented on Hits. I joined JMDL in 1999 > I think.B BSN was on the > horizon.B I got caught up in the excitement here.B > I was still discovering > Joni albums and beginning to get my head around her > progression as an > artist. I had just gone to university and my friends thought > my new > infatuation was mad. > I really like Night Of The Iguana and really like > your comments about it. > Garret > > Me: B There are so many incredible songs on > Shine, and I agree with Joni that it is her best album so far. B It is higher > innocence in the Blake sense. > > > On 9 May 2014 12:41, "Jamie Zubairi Home" > wrote: > >> I'm loving this discussion! For me CMIARS > was the first new album I came in >> on in 1988 having only just fell in love > with LOTC and I kinda thought 'Oh >> WOW, I guess she's gone the way of > Marianne Faithful, vocally' so it took >> some time to really get used to, > having really loved the helium soprano >> that got me hooked, it was a complete > turnaround to getting used to a new >> artist. I had it on tape and it was one > to really immerse myself in once I >> had bought a better sound system. I loved > the production of it, especially >> the haunting piano on My Secret Place and > the layering of instruments. >> Someone said it was a choral album, with guest > vocalists, which I'd never >> thought of as that before, more a dutes album > but, yes, it does fell like >> more of a choric album. > > Me: Brilliant!!! B I > love it!! > >> I guess I don't buy that much new music, or listen to new > musicians, having >> being spoilt by the high standards that I hold Joni in and > people always >> try and recommend me so-and-so "because she's just like Joni". > (Really? I >> can't hear it - or yeah, she's too like Joni, where is SHE in > it?) but now >> I've got into other artists who come from a folk root, but > mainly bands >> (Anathallo, Beirut, Fanfarlo etc etc) who don't bear any > resemblance to >> Joni's music but they tend to have a horn section, multiple > voices and good >> arrangements... so she's given me that at least). > > Me: > B Lourde, Haim. B I like these. B They are young and will be interesting to > follow, but nobody will ever come close to Joni for me. > >> >> My favourite > thing about Shine is that 'Night of The Iguana' DOESN'T have >> any castanets > in it, real, or synthesised, just where you're expecting to >> hear them in the > arrangement just after she says "Can you hear the >> castanets?" (No). >> I do > like Shine for all the crochety grandma-ness of it. I can't wait to >> hear a > sung version (if ever there will be) of 'This Rain'... will love to >> hear > what she'll do with the limited range. >> >> Anyway, welcome to the fold > Jamie Zubairi ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #683 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------