From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #666 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 6 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 666 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Still Standing [janine sherman ] Re: CMIARS a masterwork? [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: The Crickets [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe [Thomas ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: janine sherman Subject: Still Standing May 5 at 10:18 PM Janine from Gettysburg, PA - grew up in Northeast OH. Still here reading what jmdl is sending out. LOTC was my 1st vinyl Joni LP which I played endlessly swapping out only for Sweet Baby James occasionally ('70) Own her catalog and then some . I have seen Joni live only twice- once in 1972 (right after her self-imposed exile to BC) in Cleveland stumping for McGovern alongside JT and Paul Simon and ,second, in 2001 sitting right behind HER and next to FL Jimmy in Toronto at the Homage. She is beyond genius in my book. Just wish she'd give up the smokes! Some of her songs are otherworldly to me; impossible to fully digest because they might end me- their intensity strikes at my core like none other. Thanks for the more than 144 characters. Janine With Heart, Humor, and Humility that lightens my heavy load. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:56:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: CMIARS a masterwork? I'd have to agree that I don't think CMIARS qualifies as a masterwork. But after singing in a choir for a couple of years (and doing some pretty intricate pieces), I'd say that CMIARS is a singular work in Joni's catalog. The songs seem to be meant more for a number of voices, not one voice. It's almost jarring when it gets to "A Bird That Whistles" because there is one well defined melodic thread, rather than vocal parts that fit together to form a whole. I've never really read anything on how Joni composed the songs. I'd always assumed she took a very different approach. I wouldn't be surprised if she recorded vocal parts in layers as she wrote them. But that's just a complete guess. Does anybody know? lots of love,Anne on May 05, 2014, David J. Phillips wrote: My online dictionary says "In modern English the word is usually reserved for the best piece of work of a particular creative artist or craftsman." If we go with that definition, I can't imagine that CMiaRS qualifies. djp, following up his own post, for god's sake. On 05/05/14 09:1727, David J. Phillips wrote: > Just to be pedantic, isn't (or wasn't) a masterwork the single piece > that proved one was no longer an apprentice (and, in another system of > craft production, could set up shop on one's own, and take on apprentices)? > > So perhaps Song to a Seagull is Mitchell's masterwork, or Court and > Spark. Certainly nothing later. > > djp > > > On 05/05/14 08:5018, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >> I just don't think it's fair to label something as a masterwork 'just >> because' one says so. >> >> You can refer to Citizen Kane, Rhapsody In Blue, The Mona Lisa, Gone With >> The Wind, The Sistine Chapel, To Kill A Mockingbird as masterworks and >> nobody would bat an eye because they are recognized as such over time. I >> think it dilutes the meaning of the word to put CMIARS in that category. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: Sinead O'Connor, "Nothing Compares To You" >> >> >> >> From: Jamie Zubairi Home >> To: ingrid lochrenberg, >> Cc: Joni JMDL >> Date: 05/05/2014 08:32 AM >> Subject: Re: CMIARS >> Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >> >> >> >> Or even "the work of a master" >> On 5 May 2014 13:13, "ingrid lochrenberg" wrote: >> >>> Something can be regarded by a person as a masterwork based solely on >> it's >>> impact....with no criteria or intellectualization in-mind. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >> this message is prohibited. 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Are you sure about that? > > >The story about the crickets is that the cricket was an uninvited guest in > the studio. Klein and Joni couldn't eradicate it so they made the best of > it. Night Ride Home is a great record with some truly beautiful songs.> > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #661 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 05:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: RE: You turn me on I'm a Radio, the link Joni Mitchel - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio Joni Mitchel - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo The best part got left off. Dig it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4GqB1t4PBA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 14:40:26 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: fantasy albums Bob, I just heard a previously unreleased Jacko track, so you never know! Anita On 2 May 2014 14:31, Bob Muller wrote: > That's a great fantasy album, Betsy - no small coincidence that ALL of > those unreleased songs have been covered. > > Of course, the REAL fantasy would be a rarities/unreleased box set, but I > guess we will never see it. > > Bob > > NP: Damon Albarn, "Heavy Seas Of Love" > *From:* Betsy Blue > *To:* joni@smoe.org > *Cc:* Anita G ; Susan E. McNamara < > sem8@cornell.edu>; Mark ; Bob.Muller@fluor.com > *Sent:* Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:55 AM > *Subject:* fantasy albums > > Bob et al., > > I would have preferred Eastern Rain to PoP on STAS. But there are enough > good (what I consider folk) songs to fill another album. So maybe Gift of > the Magi could replace Night in the City. Cactus Tree would be the new > single. > > NitC, along with Born to Take the Highway (single), Just Like Me, Day After > Day, Blue on Blue, Play Little David, Come to the Sunshine, Brandy Eyes, > Carnival in Kenora, The Way It Is, and Hunter would be my fantasy album. > > Of course, I have just ruined the concept of STAS in addition to creating a > less than spectacular album. No doubt most of you could do better. > > Betsy > > On May 1, 2014 7:02 AM, wrote: > > > > Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... When I hear the > luscious songs she left behind to include PoP, I still see it as an error > on her part. > > > > Bob ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #666 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------