From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #484 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 27 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 484 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni worship in Van Ronk book [Ken ] Mitchell Meets Waits [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Carl Hiaasen [Laura O ] Re: Mitchell Meets Waits [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Mitchell Meets Waits NJC now BMC [Moni Kellermann ] re: Joni Trivia [c Karma ] Re: Mitchell Meets Waits [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Mitchell Meets Waits [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Spring into Joni Covers - Volume 185 [carmel rotem ] =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_The_Flick_Coff?= =?UTF-8?Q?eehouse,_hothouse_for_Joni_Mitch?= =?UTF-8?Q?ell,_Jimmy_Buffett,_Gabe_Kaplan_?= =?UTF-8?Q?in_=E2=80=9960s_Coral_Gables,_lives_again?= [] =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IE5ldyBMaWJyYXJ5IGl0ZW06IFRoZSBGbGljayBDb2ZmZWVob 3VzZSwg?= =?UTF-8?B?aG90aG91c2UgZm9yIEpvbmkgTWl0Y2hlbGwsIEppbW15IEJ1ZmZldHQsIA== ?= =?UTF-8?B?R2FiZSBLYXBsYW4gaW4g4oCZNjBzIENvcmFsIEdhYmxlcywgbGl2ZXM=?= =?UTF-8?B?IGFnYWlu?= [] Where was C&S recorded? [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:34:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Subject: Joni worship in Van Ronk book Forgive me if this has been mentioned before but I just finished reading an excellent book: The Mayor of MacDougal Street (a memoir by Dave Van Ronk). It chronicles the music scene (and musicians) primarily the jazz and folk scene of Greenwich Village in the '50s & '60s. Some great stories, anecdotes, and observations. Joni is mentioned in a few places and, from what I've gathered, she was idolized by Van Ronk. Highly recommended! Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:34:52 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Mitchell Meets Waits In my never-ending search for Joni covers, I discovered this upcoming release yesterday...a tribute album to two of my favorite writers, Joni & Tom Waits by German artist Simon Krautler. I recall waaaaaaaaay back when there was a thread about which Tom Waits songs Joni could do and vice versa. Well, not much of a THREAD, really - more of a post I wrote. I'm anxious to hear what this guy comes up with. Lauren Fox recently put out a project that combined Leonard Cohen and Joni. Both Tom and Joni do a good job of painting with words. The tracklist: A Case Of You I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You Fumbling With The Blues River Blue Valentine Tom Traubert's Blues I Had A King Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis Time Talk To Me Both Sides Now Ol' 55 An interesting set to be sure. Bob NP: - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:42:06 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Carl Hiaasen Bob, Me thinks it's Chuck Mitchell who is the "rabid Carl Hiaasen fan" This is a confusing article with all the Mitchell quotes back and forth. On first read I thought the same thing..... but then I realized they probably were talking about Chuck. It seems that they interviewed Chuck Mitchell for this piece since he will be appearing at The Flick this weekend. Because the sentence above the "Mitchell" quote is: "Coming back, Mitchell said, should be an experience." Sorry to be a bubble burster! :-) Laura ************************************************************ Seattle's Best Coffee from Facebook https://www.facebook.com/SeattlesBestCoffee/app_652375534773676 ***************************************************************** OMG if I'm reading this right, Joni says she is a 'rabid Carl Hiaasen fan'? I've read all of his novels (except the children's books) - just finished "Bad Monkey" 2 weeks ago. Something else we can talk about when I run into her again. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:18:31 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits Am 27.03.2014 15:34, Wie Bob.Muller@Fluor.com so vortrefflich formulierte: > German artist Simon Krautler. His name is Simon Krdutler. Krautler would be pronounced "Kroutler" (as in "shout") whereas Krdutler is pronounced like "Kroytler" (as in "boy"). One way to add that information if there are no umlauts available on the keyboard is to transcribe it as Kraeutler (d = ae). He is Austrian, not German. To call an Austrian German is like calling a Canadian a US-American (as in "from North America, whatever"). moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:46:48 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits NJC now BMC Am 27.03.2014 16:35, Wie Bob.Muller@Fluor.com so vortrefflich formulierte: > Thanks for the clarification Moni...obviously I had not done my research > and made a bad guess. I DID know about the umlaut but have no way to add > it from my keyboard and figured that smoe would screw it up anyway. You figured that right, LOL. > > Just three generations ago I had an umlaut above the U in my last name! Yeah, and it makes all the difference in the pronounciation. :) Maybe not that much from an English perspective but "Muller" sounds totally different than "M|ller" (or Mueller) in German, the u in Muller would be pronounced as in "bull" and M|ller like this: http://audio.forvo.com/mp3/9218640/34/9218640_34_22671.mp3 moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:31:44 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Joni Trivia A Kaiser Darrin, perhaps? American car, sliding doors that need the long fenders to hide in. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:27:31 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits > Sigh. SMOE doesn't like that umlaut, so that name is misspelled. Apparently SMOE eats the umlaut and spits out a d instead. > SMOE eats all my apostrophes oddly enoughwatch.youre, youd, its.see? ( yes, I did type them) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:35:19 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits Thanks for the clarification Moni...obviously I had not done my research and made a bad guess. I DID know about the umlaut but have no way to add it from my keyboard and figured that smoe would screw it up anyway. Just three generations ago I had an umlaut above the U in my last name! Bob From: Moni Kellermann To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com, joni@smoe.org, Date: 03/27/2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits Am 27.03.2014 15:34, Wie Bob.Muller@Fluor.com so vortrefflich formulierte: > German artist Simon Krautler. His name is Simon Krdutler. Krautler would be pronounced "Kroutler" (as in "shout") whereas Krdutler is pronounced like "Kroytler" (as in "boy"). One way to add that information if there are no umlauts available on the keyboard is to transcribe it as Kraeutler (d = ae). He is Austrian, not German. To call an Austrian German is like calling a Canadian a US-American (as in "from North America, whatever"). moni k. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: Spring into Joni Covers - Volume 185 Hi Bob and all, as a Hebrew speaker, I was wondering who is this "Ben Artiz" I've never heard of who's singing river here. I soon realized it's Ben Artzi, who is a familiar singer here in Israel (mainly as being the son of Shlomo Artzi, who is probably the most successful singer in the country). it turns out that he translated the song with his father, and even though the Hebrew lyrics are very loyal to the original, he made it sound really cheesy, to my ears at least... Carmel. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:15:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Spring into Joni Covers - Volume 185 It's a beautiful spring day here in Greenville, can't wait to wreck my stockings on a long run. But before I do, here's a BRAND SPANKING NEW collection of Joni covers for everyone. Thanks to Randy & Paul for their help with this one. Some rarities, some UBER-rarities, some lovelies, three non-English tracks (Jimmy's delight!) and an uber-cheese stinketta that I was actually happy to finally get (Relly Coloma). Some names you know and some you don't. In other words, the usual assortment of trinkets and brickbats. Boom goes the dynamite: http://goo.gl/f370t7 1. Margot Sampson - Both Sides Now 2. Judy Kuhn - Help Me 3. Judy Kuhn - Night Ride Home 4. Skylar Grey - All I Want 5. Angel Brereton - Both Sides Now 6. Tara Scheyer & The Mud Puppy Band - Big Yellow Taxi 7. Tift Merritt - Woodstock 8. Camille - Twisted 9. Lauren Arnold - Both Sides Now 10. Pia Raug - Kaj (Carey/Danish) 11. Ben Artiz - River (Hebrew) 12. The Sunbeams - Big Yellow Taxi 13. Marc van Roon - Both Sides Now 14. Chris Garrick & John Etheridge - River 15. Stefania Bimbi - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 16. Pat Arthur - Michael From Mountains 17. Mary Sandeman - Gach Taobh A Nis (Both Sides Now/Gaelic) 18. Pram Trio - A Case Of You 19. Saline Fiddlers - Big Yellow Taxi 20. The Rubes - Song For The Midway 21. Relly Coloma - Both Sides Now 21 songs, 21 hits. Enjoy. Bob NP: Camille, "Twisted" - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 08:47:44 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Joni trivia Hi Doug, That is an early Porsche, like the ones that The Byrds and James Dean. If I remember the car correctly, it was a Speedster, which was a convertible 356. Dr. Porsche also designed the Type 1 which most call The Beetle. Jim L. Columbus, Ohio, USA > hi, i love joni and recently came across the "shadows and light" film. there is this red car that picks up "joni the hitcher". can you help me find out what kind of car that is? thanks, doug niemann ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:05:09 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_New_Library_item:_The_Flick_Coffeehouse,_hothouse _?= =?utf-8?Q?for_Joni_Mitchell,_Jimmy_Buffett,_Gabe_Kaplan_in_?= =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9960s_Coral_Gables,_lives_again?= I think that was a Chuck Mitchell quote, not Joni. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > OMG if I'm reading this right, Joni says she is a 'rabid Carl Hiaasen > fan'? I've read all of his novels (except the children's books) - just > finished "Bad Monkey" 2 weeks ago. > Something else we can talk about when I run into her again. > > Bob > > NP: Roy Orbison, "She's A Mystery To Me" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:38:58 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Mitchell Meets Waits Am 27.03.2014 16:18, Wie Moni Kellermann so vortrefflich formulierte: > Am 27.03.2014 15:34, Wie Bob.Muller@Fluor.com so vortrefflich formulierte: >> German artist Simon Krautler. > > His name is Simon Krdutler. Krautler would be pronounced "Kroutler" (as > in "shout") whereas Krdutler is pronounced like "Kroytler" (as in > "boy"). One way to add that information if there are no umlauts > available on the keyboard is to transcribe it as Kraeutler (d = ae). > > He is Austrian, not German. To call an Austrian German is like calling a > Canadian a US-American (as in "from North America, whatever"). > > moni k. > Sigh. SMOE doesn't like that umlaut, so that name is misspelled. Apparently SMOE eats the umlaut and spits out a d instead. Hm, so I guess I have to link to a page with his name, such as http://www.2intimemusic.com/wirsind/index.htm moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 05:59:41 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_The_Flick_Coff?= =?UTF-8?Q?eehouse,_hothouse_for_Joni_Mitch?= =?UTF-8?Q?ell,_Jimmy_Buffett,_Gabe_Kaplan_?= =?UTF-8?Q?in_=E2=80=9960s_Coral_Gables,_lives_again?= Title: The Flick Coffeehouse, hothouse for Joni Mitchell, Jimmy Buffett, Gabe Kaplan in b60s Coral Gables, lives again Publication: Miami Herald Date: 2014.3.26 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2768 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:12:47 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IE5ldyBMaWJyYXJ5IGl0ZW06IFRoZSBGbGljayBDb2ZmZWVob 3VzZSwg?= =?UTF-8?B?aG90aG91c2UgZm9yIEpvbmkgTWl0Y2hlbGwsIEppbW15IEJ1ZmZldHQsIA== ?= =?UTF-8?B?R2FiZSBLYXBsYW4gaW4g4oCZNjBzIENvcmFsIEdhYmxlcywgbGl2ZXM=?= =?UTF-8?B?IGFnYWlu?= Makes sense. The context of Hiaasen's work is definitely something I think Chuck would appreciate. Thanks for your input. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:00:52 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Where was C&S recorded? Why is Joni's voice steely and strident on Court And Spark (the whole album)? It doesn't sound like that on FTR (the album). Do we know when she started releasing tracks that she recorded at home? I know that Larry and Thomas Dolby had replaced Henry as engineers on DED, but what about the other records? Jim ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #484 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------