From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #274 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, February 20 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 274 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #272 [Laurie Antonioli ] Dreadful Situation...Monika Bogdanowicz [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Spot the Typos [Moni Kellermann ] Re: biopic [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 [Paul Ivice ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Attention scam! mail from "Monika Bogdanowicz" [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Spot the Typos njc ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:34:25 -0500 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #272 Hard to imagine an actress that could play Joni. It would be nice to find a cool young singer like Laura Marling - she's got enough dramatic flare that a good director could work with her. She's blond. And deep. My 2 cents. Laurie Antonioli PS: Just finished mixing and mastering my "Songs of Shadow, Songs of Light" recording of all Joni's music. Now. A few labels are looking at it, but, will release it on my label if necessary. Will let you all know when the time comes. Here's the song list: PEOPLE'S PARTIES RAINY NIGHT HOUSE BARRANGRILL EASTERN RAIN COLD BLUE STEEL AND SWEET FIRE BOTH SIDES NOW THE HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND THIS FLIGHT TONIGHT RIVER I DON'T KNOW WHERE I STAND CALIFORNIA MARCIE On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, February 20 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 272 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 ["Susan E. McNamara" < > sem8@cornell.edu>] > Re: Spot the Typos njc [Moni Kellermann < > kellerfrau@gmx.de>] > Re: Spot the Typos njc [Anita < > lawntreader@googlemail.com>] > RE: biopic ["Susan E. McNamara" < > sem8@cornell.edu>] > Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #57 [Michael Sentance < > mjsentance@gmail.com>] > JONI Tablature book Cheaper on Amazon [Debra Pease < > catgirl627@gmail.com] > Re: Spot the Typos njc [Catherine McKay < > anima_rising@yahoo.ca>] > Re: biopic [Jeff Clark < > clarkjeff440@ymail.com>] > RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 [Barbara Sullivan < > chasada@msn.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 00:12:43 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 > > Lol!!! Good one Paul :-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 20, 2014, at 6:16 PM, "Paul Ivice" wrote: > > > > Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... > > especially the thought of putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy > like > > that sometimes too. I guess when it boils down to it, I would love to > see an > > intensely serious movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... > creative, > > honest, made by a person with a great love and dedication to the music, > with > > a > > phenomenal actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. > > I'm > > not sure who that person is ... > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: > > sem8@cornell.edu > > > > I think you're on to something there, Susan. > > Perhaps Joni should be played in the movie by Forest Whitaker, or maybe > Samuel > > L. Jackson. And make sure they put a ruby in his ear. > > They could get Richard Dreyfuss to play Carole King and, I don't know, > maybe > > Ben Affleck to play Carly Simon? > > > > > > > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:38:36 +0100 > From: Moni Kellermann > Subject: Re: Spot the Typos njc > > Am 20.02.2014 10:53, Wie Anita so vortrefflich formulierte: > > I'm playing "Spot The Pedant" > > Anita > > (That's supposed to be a LOL) > > I'm playing > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fHJBGpJMr8 > > Jefferson Airplane - Never Argue With A German If You're Tired > > (That's supposed to be a ROTFL) > > > > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:53:15 +0000 > From: Anita > Subject: Re: Spot the Typos njc > > I'm playing "Spot The Pedant" > Anita > (That's supposed to be a LOL) > > On 20 Feb 2014, at 08:35, Moni Kellermann wrote: > > > Am 20.02.2014 05:05, Wie Catherine McKay so vortrefflich formulierte: > >> Those are NOT typos. They are mistakes resulting from lack of basic > research. > > > > Nope. > > > > He simply mixed up the albums the songs are from. > > > > ""Coyote" (from Ladies of the Canyon) and "For Free" (Hejira)" should be > ""Coyote" (from Hejira) and "For Free" (Ladies of the Canyon)". > > > > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:17:08 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: RE: biopic > > Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... especially the thought of > putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy like that sometimes too. I > guess when it boils down to it, I would love to see an intensely serious > movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... creative, honest, made by > a person with a great love and dedication to the music, with a phenomenal > actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. I'm not > sure who that person is ... > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:56 AM > To: Jeff Clark > Cc: joni@smoe.org; Anita > Subject: Re: biopic > > My takeaway from all that late-night rambling was: > > "It's not really healthy to get too > obsessed with Joni Mitchell." > > Bob > > NP: Pharrell - "Despicable Me" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential > and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, > reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is > prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and > may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:42:35 -0500 > From: Michael Sentance > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #57 > > As the "Taylor as Joni" conversation has just about played out, Mr. Clark's > suggestion that Ken Burns do a documentary on Joni Mitchell triggered some > other thoughts. I think the "A Woman of Heart and Mind" documentary is > pretty good so I'm not sure that Burns would be a big upgrade. And I really > don't want to watch another Jonathan Demme meandering documentary. Doing > one decent one with Neil Young doesn't mean you should do more. > > Besides, I would want someone to tell about the passion - not the story - > of Joni Mitchell. The person who might understand her is Cameron Crowe who > did the excellent 1979 Rolling Stone interview with her. He gets the music. > And the depth of his feeling for Joni is evident in "Almost Famous". The > scene where William Miller is given "Blue" among other iconic albums is > revealing. When Penny Lane was re-introduced to Russell Hammond, she begins > to softly weep. "River" was actually being played in the background on the > set when Kate Hudson did that scene; her emotion was brought forward by the > song. The iconic scene when Penny Lane danced alone in the concert hall was > filmed with Joni's "People's Parties" being played on the set. However as > that song wasn't released until 1974, Crowe used Cat Steven' "The Wind" in > the movie. > > (As we know, "People's Parties" was in Joni Mitchell's "Exile on Main > Street" album -- or at least according to that audio magazine.) > > So I would vote for Cameron Crowe. He understands Joni. And, I think, he > would "be honest, and unmerciful." > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:01:55 -0500 > From: Debra Pease > Subject: JONI Tablature book Cheaper on Amazon > > HI Folks, > Just received an email from Amazon telling me my book was shipping so I > went to their site and it is now on sale for$43.81 with FREE shipping. I > got a whopping $2.81 off the price I was paying for it so if you were on > the fence with buying, buy it now. Hard cover, brand new! > Cheers, > Catgirl > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 06:35:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Spot the Typos njc > > My point wsa that a typo is when you make a mistake in typing (or, in the > old > days, typesetting - anyone remember that?), the way I did just back there > when > I typed "wsa" when I meant "was" (and I really did type it that way because > Im' a sloppy typist (another one back there)) but I usually fix them, when > I > notice. When someone uses the wrong word ("there" for "their") it's a > grammar > mistake and when they use the wrong reference it's either relying too > heavily > on memory (I do this a lot, but, because I'm a bit of a pedant but mostly > because I'm just getting old and I don't trust myself), I often check > (research) to make sure I didn't make a mistake. I wouldn't write a letter > to > the editor giving the writer sh*t for that mistake though. If I did at all, > I'd be much more objective about it. And I probably would do something > about > all those parentheses, but I give up. In my previous job, too many people > called things "typos" when they weren't typos at > all, so I get a bit bristly about it when people call mistakes typos. > >________________________________ > > From: Moni Kellermann > >To: Anita > >Cc: Catherine McKay > ; Jim L'Hommedieu ; > JMDL > > >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:38:36 AM > >Subject: Re: > Spot the Typos njc > > > > > >Am 20.02.2014 10:53, Wie Anita so vortrefflich > formulierte: > >> I'm playing "Spot The Pedant" > >> Anita > >> (That's supposed to > be a LOL) > > > >I'm playing > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fHJBGpJMr8 > > > >Jefferson Airplane - Never Argue With A German If You're Tired > > > >(That's > supposed to be a ROTFL) > > > > > > > > > >moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Clark > Subject: Re: biopic > > is it you? > > > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:17 AM, Susan E. McNamara > wrote: > > Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... > especially the thought of putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy > like > that sometimes too. I guess when it boils down to it, I would love to see > an > intensely serious movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... > creative, > honest, made by a person with a great love and dedication to the music, > with a > phenomenal actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. > I'm > not sure who that person is ... > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: > sem8@cornell.edu > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Thursday, > February 20, 2014 7:56 AM > To: Jeff Clark > Cc: joni@smoe.org; Anita > Subject: Re: > biopic > > My takeaway from all that late-night rambling was: > > "It's not really > healthy to get too > obsessed with Joni Mitchell." > > Bob > > NP: Pharrell - > "Despicable Me" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which > it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or > privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message > you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the > views > of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:12:11 -0500 > From: Barbara Sullivan > Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 > > I always respect and read your posts Sue, thank you. I totally agree with > you.I would like to see a movie about Ms Joan exactly as U describe. Some > where in-side I feel it will happen, or like I have said before, I think > Joanalready has it in HER work! She will be the creative,honest, person > with a > great love and dedication to Her music and shedoes know film too and the > right > people to do it..I Love discussing this though...God I hope it happens > S-O-O-N!!Anyways...regards,Ada in MI and damn COLD > > > > Have a Grrr8...phenomenal day! > > BARBEARUH > > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 > > From: ivpaul42@aol.com > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:04:50 -0500 > > > > Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... > > especially the thought of putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy > like > > that sometimes too. I guess when it boils down to it, I would love to > see > an > > intensely serious movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... > creative, > > honest, made by a person with a great love and dedication to the music, > with > > a > > phenomenal actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. > > I'm > > not sure who that person is ... > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: > > sem8@cornell.edu > > > > I think you're on to something there, Susan. > > Perhaps Joni should be played in the movie by Forest Whitaker, or maybe > Samuel > > L. Jackson. And make sure they put a ruby in his ear. > > They could get Richard Dreyfuss to play Carole King and, I don't know, > maybe > > Ben Affleck to play Carly Simon? > > > > > > > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #272 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Dreadful Situation...Monika Bogdanowicz I really hope you get this fast. i could not inform anyone about my trip, because it was impromptu.i had to be in Lviv(Ukraine) for a program. The program was successful, but my journey has turned sour.i was mugged at the park of the hotel where i stayed,all cash and credit card were stolen off me but luckily for me, i still have my passports with me. Now, my passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when i make payment. I've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and my flight leaves in few hours from now but am having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the bills. Well I really need your financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help me out? Am freaked out at the moment. Monika. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2014 02:27:43 +0100 From: "Stephen" Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:35:14 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Spot the Typos Am 20.02.2014 05:05, Wie Catherine McKay so vortrefflich formulierte: > Those are NOT typos. They are mistakes resulting from lack of basic research. Nope. He simply mixed up the albums the songs are from. ""Coyote" (from Ladies of the Canyon) and "For Free" (Hejira)" should be ""Coyote" (from Hejira) and "For Free" (Ladies of the Canyon)". moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:55:50 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: biopic My takeaway from all that late-night rambling was: "It's not really healthy to get too obsessed with Joni Mitchell." Bob NP: Pharrell - "Despicable Me" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:04:50 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... especially the thought of putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy like that sometimes too. I guess when it boils down to it, I would love to see an intensely serious movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... creative, honest, made by a person with a great love and dedication to the music, with a phenomenal actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. I'm not sure who that person is ... Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu I think you're on to something there, Susan. Perhaps Joni should be played in the movie by Forest Whitaker, or maybe Samuel L. Jackson. And make sure they put a ruby in his ear. They could get Richard Dreyfuss to play Carole King and, I don't know, maybe Ben Affleck to play Carly Simon? Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 00:16:20 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 Thanks Ada! I can't wait to read the memoirs ... They will probably top out at five volumes ... With two being about Nietzsche!! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2014, at 7:12 PM, "Barbara Sullivan" > wrote: I always respect and read your posts Sue, thank you. I totally agree with you. I would like to see a movie about Ms Joan exactly as U describe. Some where in-side I feel it will happen, or like I have said before, I think Joan already has it in HER work! She will be the creative, honest, person with a great love and dedication to Her music and she does know film too and the right people to do it.. I Love discussing this though...God I hope it happens S-O-O-N!! Anyways... regards, Ada in MI and damn COLD Have a Grrr8...phenomenal day! BARBEARUH [http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emlips.gif] > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #59 > From: ivpaul42@aol.com > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:04:50 -0500 > > Too late!!! :-) I enjoyed your posts Jeff ... > especially the thought of putting Joni on Mount Rushmore ... I get crazy like > that sometimes too. I guess when it boils down to it, I would love to see an > intensely serious movie much like Clint Eastwood did with Bird ... creative, > honest, made by a person with a great love and dedication to the music, with > a > phenomenal actress with the power of a Forest Whitaker who fits the role. > I'm > not sure who that person is ... > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: > sem8@cornell.edu > > I think you're on to something there, Susan. > Perhaps Joni should be played in the movie by Forest Whitaker, or maybe Samuel > L. Jackson. And make sure they put a ruby in his ear. > They could get Richard Dreyfuss to play Carole King and, I don't know, maybe > Ben Affleck to play Carly Simon? > > > > Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:31:58 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Attention scam! mail from "Monika Bogdanowicz" Dear all, if you just got a message from "Monika Bogdanowicz" with a story about a trip to the Ukraine - this is a scam! Do not reply or take any action. Apparently her Yahoo account has been hacked. If you google http://goo.gl/tO2z2y, you will find that there are many results, many of them dating back to 2013, so they are now using the current situation in the Ukraine to alert people. moni k. P.S. I deliberately left out the "NJC" in the subject line because this may affect everyone on any of the Joni lists. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 00:18:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: biopic I just think that Joni is too significant to be reduced to a "Girls Like Us" movie by John Sayles. I didn't mean to imply that if she got hit by a bus, the world would end. The world might end if she got run over by a tractor somewhere around Saskatoon in a snowstorm, going to visit her old friend Sharon Bell, talking about how she influenced the music on Steely Dan's Aja. And how she put the j dangling on the albumn cover of Hejira before they did on Aja. And with Joni running around New Mexico, dropping copies of her albumns off, in front of Georgia O'keefe's house is a litte too much to be put into a movie. "If" based on a poem by Rudyard Kipling, Joni, the icy, cerebral, Buddhist, got run over, crossing a street somewhere or anywhere, the world would not turn into "butterflies" around our nation. Nor would everyone be reduced to singing "Puff the Magic Dragon", pondering what the words to "Passion Play" mean. Pete Seeger recently passed, and everyone knows Joni was influenced by Pete Seeger, and that when she wanted to learn to play guitar, she got a Pete Seeger instruction manual, she tossed it away, wanting to develop her own guitar style, which she obviously did. Taylor Swift's "Red" an album I have never heard, but so obviously copied off of Joni Mitchell's "Blue" at least in terms of trying to make a significant albumn, and a word about it, is obviously a bad mistake. And i know Taylor Swift's shaking her hair around, at the piano, as if in some kind of epiletic seisure, was ridiculous. I, personally, wasn't a big fan of "Blue" I much prefer the early stuff and certain songs, barangrill is one of my favorite Joni songs. Is that going to be in the movie? Hunter the Good Samaratin is one of my favorite Joni songs. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:30 PM, Jeff Clark wrote: Joni, still forever, sitting at her table and smoking her American Spirits, having conquered folk, rock, jazz, folk-rock, "world-music" Woodstock, Peter Gabriel, Willie Nelson, Linda Ronstadt, Picasso, Matisse, Barbrara Streisand, etc etc. How many "people" are seriously going to be alive when this woman puts out her autobiograhy. And she dosen't have to. There was the Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman, everyone know Joni's thing about Miles Davis. That apparently she always wanted to work with him, but he was "inaccessable" and that when Miles Davis died, the report was that his son said he was listening to Joni's albumn's all the time before he died, even Dog Eat Dog and Taming the Tiger. I was reading Linda Rondstadt's autobiography, Willie Nelson's latest "Roll me up and Smoke me when I'm Dead" and watching the superbowl at the same time. Joni wants her poetry and thought to be preserved more than anything. This latest book of her guitar tunings and songs, she has mixed feelings about. It's not really healthy to get too obsessed with Joni Mitchell. What would happen if she got hit by a car or a bus crossing Sunset Blvd.? Would the whole world end? What would happen to her "still working on it" autobiography? Does David Geffen have the rights to it? I would like to see Joni Mitchell's work preserved. On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:13 PM, Anita wrote: I think Muller's idea of Joni playing the older Taylor Swift in said younger woman's biopic is the best - though my thoughts have increasingly moved towards animation. I'd sure like to see what Nick Park (of Wallace and Gromit) would make of the project, Anita On 19 Feb 2014, at 21:52, Jeff Clark wrote: > I think the whole Girls Like Us thing is ridiculous. Joni has said many times in interviews, "my peers aren't Carly Simon and these 'other women' " > Didn't Crosby say she's as humble as Mussolini? And when is Joni ever getting around to putting out her autobiography? Judy Collins and Crosby have put out two, and Neil Young, one. There was already Woman of Heart and Mind. Maybe Ken Burns should do a lengthy biop just on Joni. And at the same time, make a gigantic sculpture of her head out of a mountain around the Mt Rushmore/Crazy Horse area. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 06:22:19 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Spot the Typos njc Ah yes, one of Grace's most profound lyrics. Sticken in mine haken sticken in mine haut fugen mine gas mit mine auss pucken Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Moni Kellermann Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:38 AM To: Anita Cc: Catherine McKay ; Jim L'Hommedieu ; JMDL Subject: Re: Spot the Typos njc Am 20.02.2014 10:53, Wie Anita so vortrefflich formulierte: > I'm playing "Spot The Pedant" > Anita > (That's supposed to be a LOL) I'm playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fHJBGpJMr8 Jefferson Airplane - Never Argue With A German If You're Tired (That's supposed to be a ROTFL) moni k. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #274 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------