From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #2145 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 28 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 2145 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Music & The internet (NJC) ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Music & The internet NJC [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) [Dave Blackburn ] It is okay to steal music, part 4326, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) [Lori Renee Fye ] The Dog [Jeff Clark ] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Music & The internet NJC [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Who changed the words [Mike B ] Re: Music & The internet (NJC) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Music & The internet (NJC) Wow, Laurie, this all makes me so sad ... Thanks to all the brave musicians on this list who keep on going despite seemingly insurmountable circumstance. I don't know what I would do without music in my life, and art ... what's the solution? I refuse to see a bleak future but I'm usually in denial about most things. :-( - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laurie Antonioli Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:50 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Lori Renee Fye; Jim L'Hommedieu; JMDL Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Guys, I feel kind of an obligation to chime in here. I've been on 3 different record labels and as well, have my own label that I put out "American Dreams" and reissued my first record "Soul Eyes" on. Because I have my own label, as do most artists these days (forget talking about the stars - they are the 1% or even .5% of all music - the top top top jazz artists like Cassandra Wilson are doing crowdfunding to make their records now) - the fact is this: the horse is out of the barn. We are, as musicians, excuse my French: fucked. Plain and simple. There is NO way I will ever in this life to recoup even 50% of the money spent on "Song of Shadow, Songs of Light" which by all appearances was a huge success for an Indie Artist. I am SO grateful that people bought the CD - it means a lot to me and also, at least a partial amount came back to me, however, making money is probably not in the stars. My label "Origin" is actually a co-op where I pay THEM to put out my music - it's just that I'm affiliated and they have contacts and manpower that I don't, here at my house. So I pay because I'm too busy to put out another release on my own. What I'm saying is: making records is purely for artistic documentation for lots of us. Not all. The kids make records in their home studios, climb in a van and make $300 at the door for the band in a night, sell 20 CD's and go to the next town. This is a fact. These kids get on YouTube and have a little presence for a year or two or three and then they are gone. For established artists, and I would consider myself that at this point, it's a matter of love and a desire to have a body of work. It's about staying power and longevity I am not going to climb in a van with my band - -- who are all adults who've been in the business for their whole lives -- and play for the door. Ain't gonna happen. That model is out. The only possible thing that could "happen" is someone taking a strong interest in me and then donate time and energy (a lot of time and energy!) and pitch the band to festivals with huge audiences that might, just might, like us and buy some CD's. AND...honestly...we should start looking at little drives to sell rather than CD's pretty soon. Hauling around CD's is a drag, too. Do you know how heavy they are? We are in a digital world and even a CD is considered "analog" at this point - i.e. it's a tangible thing in the intangible world of streaming and downloading. BIG NOTE: We spend hours, days, weeks editing, mixing and mastering -- to get pristine sound - only to have it squashed into MP3's. It can take the wind out of your sails, I'm telling you! I have no solutions and will probably go down swinging i.e. I'll keep putting out CD's or recordings until I want to stop investing in my own art. Thanks for listening guys - it's important to hear from artists on these topics as we're in the trenches. Blackburn's comments were also spot on. Finally: even artists you "assume" are making a living these days very well may not be. EVEN if they are on tour. It's a crisis. I have a couple friends, like Bobby McFerrin who travels the world still - he has a global fan base and this continues. For now. He fills huge concert halls with thousands of people. I don't know many others, in my field, that have that going. Without naming names, you'd be shocked to know what musicians are going through right now.....all to say, people are running to the universities trying to secure teaching gigs. I've been in academia for 14 years now. And so it goes.... Yours -- Laurie On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:10 AM, wrote: > Lori, > > I appreciate the rambling, or in this case, co-rambling. Interesting > cases with Ani & Jonatha, 2 artists that I adore. Ani didn't have much > of a hand up or out in her earliest days, she gigged non-stop and sold > CD's out of the trunk of her car. She started Righteous Babe records > so that she could control all of her business and be the main > beneficiary. She's even put out around a dozen or so live shows as she > saw that there was a market for them. She's enjoyed success on her own terms, has yet to ever have a "hit" > that I know of, and has totally retained her artistic integrity. > > Jonatha's story, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been as rosy. > Immensely talented, she's been bounced from record company to company > because she's never racked up the sales to stay on anyone's roster for > long. She's posted some of the receipts she's gotten from the sites > that stream her music, and they are pitiful sums indeed. Not even > enough to buy a meal at Mickey D's. And this is Jonatha Brooke we're > talking about. In a right world, she should be a superstar. She's not > starving but she hasn't achieved the level of artistic success that she deserves. > > Bob > > NP: Ane Brun, "To Let Myself Go" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and > other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:45:28 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Music & The internet NJC ". Remember - THE HIT IS THE COIN OF THE REALM - without that currency, almost nothing has value. Show me the HIT.Dave" I have talked a fair bit here about my friend, Amy, singer songwriter and constant gigger year in year out. Huge back catalogue, but sat down last February and wrote Thinking Out Loud with Ed Sheeran and her life has completely transformed. She had a couple of songs on his first album and a couple on his second but TOL has her in demand in loads of ways you won't believe.TV, gigs, pundit etc. Amy gave me an interview for my Joni Symposium research last week, so still has time for her friends. I asked her what it felt like to have a number one all over the world, which Joni never did and she replied 'Mental.' And to know what else she and others have said, come to the Symposium if you can :-)) Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 00:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary Pitassi Subject: Re: (NJC) Yeah. . . Lori: What they said. B ;-) Great to see you back!! B I've recently returned myself. The once and future Mary P. P.S. B What the heck are you doing out in Caldwell, ID?! > Good! Glad to see you, Lori. You make a lie of "We all come and go unknown" :-)) (Anita) - - --- > LMAO!! You are assimilated!! > > Welcome home babee! (Paz) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:10:20 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Lori, I appreciate the rambling, or in this case, co-rambling. Interesting cases with Ani & Jonatha, 2 artists that I adore. Ani didn't have much of a hand up or out in her earliest days, she gigged non-stop and sold CD's out of the trunk of her car. She started Righteous Babe records so that she could control all of her business and be the main beneficiary. She's even put out around a dozen or so live shows as she saw that there was a market for them. She's enjoyed success on her own terms, has yet to ever have a "hit" that I know of, and has totally retained her artistic integrity. Jonatha's story, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been as rosy. Immensely talented, she's been bounced from record company to company because she's never racked up the sales to stay on anyone's roster for long. She's posted some of the receipts she's gotten from the sites that stream her music, and they are pitiful sums indeed. Not even enough to buy a meal at Mickey D's. And this is Jonatha Brooke we're talking about. In a right world, she should be a superstar. She's not starving but she hasn't achieved the level of artistic success that she deserves. Bob NP: Ane Brun, "To Let Myself Go" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:11:10 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) I donbt know much about Ani DiFranco but Jonatha was signed to a major label who decided to drop her as she was in the middle of a tour promoting her incredible 10c Wings album. She started her own label, Bad Dog Records, so that could never happen again. But then of course you have to book your own tours, do the promo yourself and pay for everything yourself. She used to tour with a four piece band but now only plays solo unless shebs gigging in NYC where she lives. I donbt think itbs been easy for her even though she has had a few more breaks than many. > On Apr 28, 2015, at 6:34 AM, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > >> I don't think the buying public saw an intense need to rethink the > compensation plan for artists who are already millionaires if not > billionaires. > > And therein lies the problem, of course. Lots of people don't seem to > think about struggling artists who are not heard by many people if not > picked up by major labels. Of course there are the Ani DiFrancos and > Jonatha Brookes of the world who ended up with their own labels and whose > music was passed along by people like us, or who managed to get a gig on > Letterman or similar. I have to wonder, in the case of Ani and Jonatha, if > their families didn't have some money to back them in the first place > though. Starving artists without family support have a very hard time > being heard, and they're the ones most in need of our purchasing dollars. > Of course they're also the artists who tend to get out there and tour, as > well, or even just play on street corners with the hope that someone with > some pull in the industry will hear them. > > I'm just musing ... I don't have any answers. I'm back to my earlier > notion that it will become increasingly difficult for artists who aren't > manufactured by "the machine" to get rich or even make a living from their > music. "The real deal" do their thing anyway because they can't stop doing > it. They do it because they're driven to create and perform. They do it > for the love of it. > > But yeah ... Many, probably most, music consumers figure that most > performers are overcompensated even though that's really never been true > for the most part. However, when you're a music consumer who's struggling > to make ends meet and you think of performers who *seem* to be doing really > well then it's easy to say, eh feck it, I'm just going to download for free > because I don't have $13 to spend on a full album's worth of songs and > "that artist" can probably do without the $13. Multiply that by millions > of people though and it becomes a real problem. If you're in music to get > rich then you should probably have a second job to pay the bills. Sad but > it's just the way it is these days. > > I'll keep buying music when I can. If I don't already own it then I'm not > going to download it for free. I may listen to a tune on YouTube or Radio > Paradise but that just encourages me to buy something when I have the dough. > > Lori, rambling in > Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:33:16 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: It is okay to steal music, part 4326, njc This is the reoccurring thread about stealing music. In a way, this idea is nothing new. I'm thinking about the people who trampled the fences at Woodstock, saying, "Music should be free, maaaaan!" Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:09:54 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Music & The internet NJC I was being ironic, and rather misleadingly didnt put that line into quotation marks. I meant it to read like an artists promo blurb trying to get people to come out to a show in some far flung town, and trying to make their thing sound exciting, when, if they had had a hit, it would be a much simpler matter. The Indian casinos out here have turned into a circuit for acts that once had a hit or two, and now, often with no original members of the band left, still pack the room with boomers who remember the hit. > On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > > > Who is excited by an electrifying singer-songwriter who brings his/her roots into the present day and infuses them with verve and fire ? > > I must be the oddball in the group. I greatly enjoy seeing an artist bring his/her roots into the present day and infuse them with verve and fire. So many times I'm at a concert and others are complaining that the performer isn't playing their hit from 1967 or whenever. Sure, it's nice to hear that but I want to hear what they're doing NOW. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:57:16 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Thanks, Laurie. It's definitely good to hear from you and get your perspective from inside the situation. I know you are not alone. Next time I spend some money on a CD -- which does still happen if I can't buy a digital version -- it will be yours. Hugs. Lori Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:36:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: The Dog Bob wrote: NP: Suzanne Vega, "Small Blue Thing" (hard to believe this song is from 30B years ago!) Can't believe DED ("The Dog") is 30 this year either. Wow. Remember buying that one the day it came out, on an October Tuesday in Columbus. JeffNP: Sonny and Cher, The Beat Goes On ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:29:01 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Good to know about Ani and Jonatha, Bob and Dave. I adore both of them. I guess I just assumed they'd had some family financial backing although I should've just looked it up. "Assume" ... we all know what that gets us, or me in this case. And of course you're both right: Neither Ani or Jonatha has had a "hit" to date. They really should, which is why I tend to promote particularly Jonatha a lot on my FB page when I'm in the mood to post music. Note to self: Post more Ani too. Lori Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:34:28 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) > I don't think the buying public saw an intense need to rethink the compensation plan for artists who are already millionaires if not billionaires. And therein lies the problem, of course. Lots of people don't seem to think about struggling artists who are not heard by many people if not picked up by major labels. Of course there are the Ani DiFrancos and Jonatha Brookes of the world who ended up with their own labels and whose music was passed along by people like us, or who managed to get a gig on Letterman or similar. I have to wonder, in the case of Ani and Jonatha, if their families didn't have some money to back them in the first place though. Starving artists without family support have a very hard time being heard, and they're the ones most in need of our purchasing dollars. Of course they're also the artists who tend to get out there and tour, as well, or even just play on street corners with the hope that someone with some pull in the industry will hear them. I'm just musing ... I don't have any answers. I'm back to my earlier notion that it will become increasingly difficult for artists who aren't manufactured by "the machine" to get rich or even make a living from their music. "The real deal" do their thing anyway because they can't stop doing it. They do it because they're driven to create and perform. They do it for the love of it. But yeah ... Many, probably most, music consumers figure that most performers are overcompensated even though that's really never been true for the most part. However, when you're a music consumer who's struggling to make ends meet and you think of performers who *seem* to be doing really well then it's easy to say, eh feck it, I'm just going to download for free because I don't have $13 to spend on a full album's worth of songs and "that artist" can probably do without the $13. Multiply that by millions of people though and it becomes a real problem. If you're in music to get rich then you should probably have a second job to pay the bills. Sad but it's just the way it is these days. I'll keep buying music when I can. If I don't already own it then I'm not going to download it for free. I may listen to a tune on YouTube or Radio Paradise but that just encourages me to buy something when I have the dough. Lori, rambling in Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 22:27:34 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Music & The internet NJC > Who is excited by an electrifying singer-songwriter who brings his/her roots into the present day and infuses them with verve and fire ? I must be the oddball in the group. I greatly enjoy seeing an artist bring his/her roots into the present day and infuse them with verve and fire. So many times I'm at a concert and others are complaining that the performer isn't playing their hit from 1967 or whenever. Sure, it's nice to hear that but I want to hear what they're doing NOW. Typical case: Wynonna. I saw her perform as the featured act at a country music festival about 15 years ago. She'd just released "New Day Dawning" (that included an almost exact cover of Joni's "Help Me"). My friend and I had sat through the whole day, part of it a downpour (and we were just barely under cover at Wolf Trap in Virginia), really sort of putting up with the day's other offerings. We were there to see Wynonna. I was thrilled that she performed mostly new stuff. Unfortunately, many of the others in the audience were loudly, verbally pissed off about it. They were none too keen on Wynonna having a black choir back her up on one or more songs. The woman directly in front of us said, very loudly, "I will NEVER come to see Wynonna again!" (Good; who needs that kind of attitude?) I wish I knew the answer. I'm poor but I do what I can. I don't buy a lot of new music at all these days. Funds won't allow for it. When I can buy though, I do. I believe in supporting performers whether they're singer-songwriters or otherwise. However, what can be done at this point save for demanding that streaming sites be shut down? As I wrote before, that's a slippery slope. Like a lot of other things that aren't properly compensated (teaching comes to mind), I think we're at a point where doing something is going to have to be for the love of it. Very few people are going to be able to get rich or even make a living at a whole host of things anymore. I suppose we can all thank the "free market" for that, but then I don't really know if some other system would be any better, at least not for performers, singer-songwriters, musicians, and on and on. Lori Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:46:58 +0000 From: Mike B Subject: Re: Who changed the words There's also: "When I think of your kisses my mind sings songs"! (in a fairly recent Covers compilation from Bob - though I can't remember now who sang it...) No way an improvement, but I presume it's just the way the singer always heard the song and didn't bother to check the lyric sheet.... Greetings from 'baltic' Edinburgh M ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:49:19 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Very bad things can happen with this business model. Ask Sylvester Stuart and Chuck Berry what happens when you get paid in cash and never pay any taxes. Jim Cc: no one because I'm posting from a phone. I'm enjoying the discussion though. > The kids make records in their home studios, climb in a van and make $300 at the door for the band in a night, sell 20 CD's and go to the next town.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:58:58 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: It is okay to steal music, part 4326, njc Just for the record (pardon the pun), this is a whole different thread. "Stealing" music is certainly a part of this discussion but what we're talking about are all LEGAL means of music delivery (Spotify, Pandora, Internet Radio, YouTube, Rdio, Beats, Tidal, Rhapsody, Deezer, etc) and how the transformed model is affecting the medium and the artists. Bob NP: David Sanborn, "Ordinary People" (listening to his latest album on a perfectly legal stream. For this, David will receive approximately 1 penny assuming I spin the entire thing) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" To: JMDL , Date: 04/28/2015 12:39 PM Subject: It is okay to steal music, part 4326, njc Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org This is the reoccurring thread about stealing music. In a way, this idea is nothing new. I'm thinking about the people who trampled the fences at Woodstock, saying, "Music should be free, maaaaan!" Jim - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:49:32 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: Music & The internet (NJC) Guys, I feel kind of an obligation to chime in here. I've been on 3 different record labels and as well, have my own label that I put out "American Dreams" and reissued my first record "Soul Eyes" on. Because I have my own label, as do most artists these days (forget talking about the stars - they are the 1% or even .5% of all music - the top top top jazz artists like Cassandra Wilson are doing crowdfunding to make their records now) - the fact is this: the horse is out of the barn. We are, as musicians, excuse my French: fucked. Plain and simple. There is NO way I will ever in this life to recoup even 50% of the money spent on "Song of Shadow, Songs of Light" which by all appearances was a huge success for an Indie Artist. I am SO grateful that people bought the CD - it means a lot to me and also, at least a partial amount came back to me, however, making money is probably not in the stars. My label "Origin" is actually a co-op where I pay THEM to put out my music - it's just that I'm affiliated and they have contacts and manpower that I don't, here at my house. So I pay because I'm too busy to put out another release on my own. What I'm saying is: making records is purely for artistic documentation for lots of us. Not all. The kids make records in their home studios, climb in a van and make $300 at the door for the band in a night, sell 20 CD's and go to the next town. This is a fact. These kids get on YouTube and have a little presence for a year or two or three and then they are gone. For established artists, and I would consider myself that at this point, it's a matter of love and a desire to have a body of work. It's about staying power and longevity I am not going to climb in a van with my band - -- who are all adults who've been in the business for their whole lives -- and play for the door. Ain't gonna happen. That model is out. The only possible thing that could "happen" is someone taking a strong interest in me and then donate time and energy (a lot of time and energy!) and pitch the band to festivals with huge audiences that might, just might, like us and buy some CD's. AND...honestly...we should start looking at little drives to sell rather than CD's pretty soon. Hauling around CD's is a drag, too. Do you know how heavy they are? We are in a digital world and even a CD is considered "analog" at this point - i.e. it's a tangible thing in the intangible world of streaming and downloading. BIG NOTE: We spend hours, days, weeks editing, mixing and mastering -- to get pristine sound - only to have it squashed into MP3's. It can take the wind out of your sails, I'm telling you! I have no solutions and will probably go down swinging i.e. I'll keep putting out CD's or recordings until I want to stop investing in my own art. Thanks for listening guys - it's important to hear from artists on these topics as we're in the trenches. Blackburn's comments were also spot on. Finally: even artists you "assume" are making a living these days very well may not be. EVEN if they are on tour. It's a crisis. I have a couple friends, like Bobby McFerrin who travels the world still - he has a global fan base and this continues. For now. He fills huge concert halls with thousands of people. I don't know many others, in my field, that have that going. Without naming names, you'd be shocked to know what musicians are going through right now.....all to say, people are running to the universities trying to secure teaching gigs. I've been in academia for 14 years now. And so it goes.... Yours -- Laurie On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:10 AM, wrote: > Lori, > > I appreciate the rambling, or in this case, co-rambling. Interesting cases > with Ani & Jonatha, 2 artists that I adore. Ani didn't have much of a hand > up or out in her earliest days, she gigged non-stop and sold CD's out of > the trunk of her car. She started Righteous Babe records so that she could > control all of her business and be the main beneficiary. She's even put out > around a dozen or so live shows as she saw that there was a market for > them. She's enjoyed success on her own terms, has yet to ever have a "hit" > that I know of, and has totally retained her artistic integrity. > > Jonatha's story, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been as rosy. > Immensely talented, she's been bounced from record company to company > because she's never racked up the sales to stay on anyone's roster for > long. She's posted some of the receipts she's gotten from the sites that > stream her music, and they are pitiful sums indeed. Not even enough to buy > a meal at Mickey D's. And this is Jonatha Brooke we're talking about. In a > right world, she should be a superstar. She's not starving but she hasn't > achieved the level of artistic success that she deserves. > > Bob > > NP: Ane Brun, "To Let Myself Go" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:45:02 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The Dog It is hard to believe...I was married 1 year, had just bought our first house, and Nathan was but a twinkle in my eye. I bought the LP when I heard the snippet of Ethiopia on NPR that morning and played the fire out of it. I didn't mind that it was a departure from her earlier work, at the time it blended in with what was on the airwaves and MTV. Ethiopia remains my favorite track on the album. Yours? Bob NP: Lightning In A Twilight Hour", The Memory Museum" From: Jeff Clark To: Bob Muller , JMDL , Date: 04/28/2015 01:36 PM Subject: The Dog Bob wrote: NP: Suzanne Vega, "Small Blue Thing" (hard to believe this song is from 30 years ago!) Can't believe DED ("The Dog") is 30 this year either. Wow. Remember buying that one the day it came out, on an October Tuesday in Columbus. Jeff NP: Sonny and Cher, The Beat Goes On - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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