From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1949 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 7 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1949 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Mitchell Concert in 1979 [Steve Danielson ] Joni stuff [Rebecca Alexander ] RE: conflicting stories ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: List pollution NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: Conflicting stories [Shari ] NJC - Extended Interview with and demonstration by Peggy Seeger on BBC Front Row [Joe Jones ] Booke [Rebecca Alexander ] Re: Ignorance was bliss NJC [Catherine McKay ] List pollution [Steve Dulson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 05:25:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Steve Danielson Subject: Joni Mitchell Concert in 1979 Hi All, Sounds like she's continuing to improve and I hope that continues. I posted a few days ago about my sort of meeting Joni Mitchell on my way to her concert (a few feet away for a minute or two, my friends and I in my beater station wagon, and Joni in her limo).B I looked it up and it was 1979. It was this concert: http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1487 Here's a review: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=865 Here's a concert from that era (not the one I saw but with Metheny and Pastorius). "Amelia" is at about 32:30. Absolutely fantastic! I'm a huge Pat Metheny fan too, so seeing them together was sublime! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKb9Ms68ME Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:56:46 -0400 From: Rebecca Alexander Subject: Joni stuff Thanks Bob &B Anita for those book suggestions. I'm always afraid I'd to waste my time & money on tabloid material --and I have so many other things to think about & read anyway.B Marianne that was quite a dream you had with Joni included. Our dreams are really about us but I think when we do get connected to others we do pick up on theirB energy in dreams.B Was it Mary who shared the link of that great song from the 60s. Is that recorded as anywhere? I'd never heard it. Great song as all of Joni's are.B Blessings to all Becky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 18:08:29 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: conflicting stories Thanks Mary! I love these older songs! I have a new blog called The Wanderer where I recently posted a great video of all her performances on "Let's Sing Out" between 1965 and 1966. In the earliest performances she is Joan Anderson ... these videos are priceless in my opinion: http://thewandererjonimitchell.blogspot.com/2015/03/early-joni-mitchell-performances-on.html - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of mep chorus.net Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:44 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: Susan E. McNamara Subject: Re: conflicting stories Sue McNamara posted, among other things: "So I guess the bottom line is, as a person on my own journey, who has struggled with loss, ego, failure, illness and wake up every day trying to move forward, I continue to see her as a role model, and another human, who will laugh and cry, and someday die, just like me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCLOMBbRVB0" Sue, thanks so much for the link to this wonderful song, which, to the best of my knowledge, I'd never heard before! I *love* Joni's voice from this era, several years before Songs to a Seagull/Joni Mitchell was released, and definitely before the "helium-voice" phase, which often seemed to me like an affectation that Joni thankfully grew out of Her voice here is strong, supple, and so very versatile. But I also caught the line that you quoted, and that I'm sure was your reason for posting this now. Yes, Joni will someday die--hopefully, not for many years!--and so will we all. And yes, I selfishly wish we had more information about her current condition. But as you and so many others her have beautifully put it, maybe it's enough to celebrate our common humanity, which Joni captured so well, and to be grateful for the great gift of herself that she gave us for so many years . . . and is still giving. And I am. Mary. P.S. When Joni gave this performance, she was all of 22. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:48:30 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: List pollution NJC The BIG 6-0! I know that I've been guilty, and sorry. Not used to posting from my phone. It's easy to chop and cut and paste from my PC. I will do better. Bob NP: The Bright Light Social Hour, "Escape Velocity" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:14:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni I didn't get Mark's original post either. I even checked my spam folder, but nope. Sometimes these things show up several days later. Goodness knows where they wander in the meantime. But, I am glad you re-sent it, Mark! From: Anita Gabrielle To: Mark Scott Cc: Joni List Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Joni Mark, I keep finding lots of JMDL posts in different boxes on my iPad. I probably have given some message to it somewhere and it filters them all over the place. Then I get someone replying to a message and I realise that the original post is somewhere else. As for this post of yours, whatever happened, I sure missed it. You capture wonderfully the dilemma of the 'love' for the art and the 'love' for the artist. I know my iPad filtered your post out or it didn't arrive. I wouldn't have forgotten something so beautifully written and heart felt, Anita xx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 08:47:13 -0700 From: Shari Subject: Re: Conflicting stories Recalling the interview when she said she didn't want to be famously ill like the Elizabeth Taylor types. > On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > Joni definitely has a close support group ... I can remember from seeing pictures of her 70th birthday party in LA. She socializes with a small group but they seem very devoted to her. > > Having said that, I just read Mark's beautifully written post about this idea between loving the art and loving Joni personally. At heart, I think I've related to Joni over the years because her music and poetry have paralleled some of the significant problems I have had with relationships over the years. Songs like Court and Spark, Don't Interrupt the Sorrow, Woman of Heart and Mind, Hejira, Nothing Can Be Done, Last Chance Lost, (I'm sure I could go on) have resonated with me so deeply that I feel sometimes like she is the only one who understands me. I know that sounds delusional, and I've had to stop myself at times and say, oh it's just the art, I really don't know (the real) Joni Mitchell at all. Then there was all the relationships that I began to cultivate with other people who love her art, and the experiences I had seeing her in concert and almost meeting her several times (close but no cigar!) I agree with Bob and Catherine too that there is nothing to be don! > e and it's all out of our hands completely, so I have written a couple of twitter messages on her WeLoveYouJoni page and I continue to play her songs in the morning on my guitar, and I think about the collective communities I belong to who revere her art. > > So I guess the bottom line is, as a person on my own journey, who has struggled with loss, ego, failure, illness and wake up every day trying to move forward, I continue to see her as a role model, and another human, who will laugh and cry, and someday die, just like me. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCLOMBbRVB0 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of mep chorus.net > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:32 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Conflicting stories > > Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > 1. Was she non-responsive or did she just faint? > > 2. Is she still in intensive care or not? > > 3. Did she get surgery or not? > > 4. Does the lack of news mean that she wants it that way? > > 5. Since she lacks parents, a manager, and a spouse, does she have any support group? You know, is she making her own decisions, or is it Kilauren? > > Me now: my concerns exactly! > > I certainly understand Joni's wish for privacy, if that's indeed what she > wants, and if she's the one making the decisions. But I'm finding the > lack of news a little more worrisome with each passing day. > > Still, I'm glad she was found last week, and very glad she's getting medical care. I'll also be happy to receive any news we eventually get. > > And, re: lack of a support group: a posting or Tweet last week--maybe one from jonimitchell.com?--made reference to her being with "friends" at the hospital. I hope that's true, and that they've continued to be able to be there for her. > > Best, > > Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:02:27 +0100 From: Joe Jones Subject: NJC - Extended Interview with and demonstration by Peggy Seeger on BBC Front Row On the IPlayer; http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05pmrty Cheers - Joe np - World in Motion - Jackson Browne. - -- - -- Joe Jones +44 7831 914094 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 22:27:43 +0200 From: Marion Leffler Subject: Re: Books A word of caution about Sheila Weller's book though. It's rather gossipy. Sources are often defined as 'a close friend'. You are supposed to take the author's word for most of the information offered. med vC$nlig hC$lsning Den 6 apr 2015 22:11 skrev "Anita Gabrielle" : > Hi Becky > There is also Katherine Monk's book about Joni's Creative Odyssey which > comes at Joni in a personal and interesting way, which I recently read and > enjoyed, > Anita > > > > > On 6 Apr 2015, at 19:51, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > > Becky, > > > > My recommendations would be "Shadows & Light" by Karen O'Brien and/or > > "Girls Like Us" by Sheila Weller. The latter combines the stories of > Carly > > Simon and Carole King, well-written but not (for me) as captivating as > > Joni's story. The book is divided such that you can read only the Joni > > stuff. That's what I did first, then went back and read it cover to > cover. > > > > > > Over and above these, Malka's fairly recent book "Joni Mitchell - In Her > > Own Words" is excellent and authentic as it's in Joni's words. Michelle > > Mercer's "Will You Take Me As I Am" is also a great read about a specific > > period. They're not biographies per se but great reads all the same. > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Kendrick Lamar, "Alright" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > > computers and other devices. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:08:55 -0400 From: Rebecca Alexander Subject: Booke I am curious --for those in the know B --what is the most reliable biography to read on Joni? I never trust them after reading a book on Mary Black (who now has an autobiography out) & then having her tell me it was all bunk...What would you B all recommend?B Sent via the Samsung Galaxy NoteB. 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:10:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Ignorance was bliss NJC This is exactly how I feel. From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Jim L'Hommedieu Cc: JMDL Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Ignorance was bliss NJC Personally, I'm not stressed in the least about Joni because there's not a thing in the world I can do about her condition. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:07:20 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: List pollution Thank you Jamie and Laura for bringing this up. There are some newbies on the list who maybe don't realize that if they hit "reply" to a digest, there reply includes the WHOLE digest. And sometimes very interesting posts get buried in the endless repeats. Actually, there are a couple of old-timers on the list whom I love dearly who do this too... :)No names - yet! >Please, try not to repeat whole posts in list after list even if it is Joni >related. >I'm asking because with repeated posts, articles, or whole digests inside of >digests it makes it very hard sometimes to find the new content when scrolling >through lengthy old content. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1949 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------