From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1941 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 6 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1941 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Ignorance was bliss ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni [Rebecca Alexander ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1937 [Jamie Zubairi home ] Re: Smoking?? [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Free man in Paris - holycombe [Sally ] Fwd: Laurel Canyon [Gerald Kent ] scholarly articles [Paul Ivice ] Re: Smoking?? [Gerald Kent ] Re: Smoking?? [Sally ] New Easter music [maggie_mcnally@yahoo.com] Re: Smoking?? ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Joni Article in the Guardian (UK) [Scott Price ] Re: Ignorance was bliss [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Smoking?? [Anne Madden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 00:00:26 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Ignorance was bliss Lori, those are diversions. I'm saying that we don't have answers to the questions I asked earlier and have no way to resolve them. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:07:30 -0400 From: Rebecca Alexander Subject: Joni Thanks Jamie & Bob That explains why I get such confusing repetitive email from this list. Thanks for the replies. I am very happy to hear Joni has some family & support. Blessings to you all. Becky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 23:01:51 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi home Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1937 Helloooo Becky! Funny you should ask that. I'm not sure what their status is but recently Kilauren and Marlin and Daisy went to LA to stay with Joni for Kilauren's birthday and the pictures seemed happy. This was only a few weeks ago. When Joni was first hospitalised I went to Kilauren's facebook page and she said something along the lines of 'Now I can't sleep at all'. I'm guessing that she was thinking of her Mama. (on a side note, you might have noticed that your question came to you 'un-digested' as you posed the question. You may also have noticed that your email also included the *entire* digest. This makes it hard for people who get the digest version (like you do) to read new posts when the digest comes through. To stop this happening, it's best to start a fresh email to joni@smoe.org rather than pressing 'reply' to the digest. You may not know that this happens if you're not a regular poster to the list.) Hoping you're well on this Easter Sunday. Much Joni Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line You can see him in: *Gopala - *A dance performance at LSO 20th March 2015 LSO St Luke's, Old Street *Adding The Blue*, as the artist in Chrissie Hynd's music video *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies due Jan 2015 Awards: Ovalhouse Associate Artist 2014 Arts Admin Associate Artist 2010 Recent work: *Expectations* Oct 22-25 Ovalhouse supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. On 5 April 2015 at 22:35, Rebecca Alexander wrote: > Since someone mentioned it, what is the status of Joni & her daughter & > grandchildren. Do the stay in touch --are they estranged? Not important to > know , I am just curious.I hope she has some family & friends around to > support her. > Becky > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:10:40 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Smoking?? Because people in intensive care often have oxygen, I'm sure smoking is not allowed. I thought of that, only because my father was quite a grouch when he was in the hospital and wasn't allowed to smoke. Lots of love, Anne Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: > > It's been several days now. I wonder if Joni has wanted to/been allowed to/been well enough to smoke. It's such a part of her life. Any thoughts? > > Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 21:39:27 -0400 From: Sally Subject: Re: Free man in Paris - holycombe That was one of the most wonderful and joyous sounds I've heard in days. Anita thank you for sharing the link...worked for me! I got goose bumps and joined in at the top of my voice and for three minutes I felt one with Joni and everyone who reveres her. I hope she heard me all the way in LA. We're pulling for you baby! Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Marianne, thatbs Barry Cahill on flute, Ibm playing guitar and Anita was on the drum as I recall. A cast of thousands on the vocals! > > > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Marianne Rizzo wrote: >> >> This is beautiful! >> Thank you Anita and everyone there! >> ( who was playing the flute?. . very nice) >> All sounded so good! >> >> And thanks everybody for all your thoughts and feelings, at this time, >> about joni. >> I appreciate reading all your comments. >> I was so happy to have a dream about her Saturday morning just before waking. >> I may post about that later. >> Love Marianne >> >> >> From: Anita G >> Subject: Free Man In Paris = Holycombe Joni Fest 2008 >> >> Dear All >> Following on from Dave and Robin's invitation to their place next week-end >> for a supportive day and sing song, earlier today I waxed lyrically and >> fondly remembering the Holycombe Festival of 2008 when, one morning we had >> sing song and Dave went into 'Free Man In Paris'. >> >> I uploaded the recording to Hightail and perhaps this link can be copied >> and pasted in to your browser. Doubtless Moni will tell me what's wrong if >> I haven't got it right if she's about today, but I hope this will work. >> >> https://www.hightail.com/download/UlRRZUNqY1NwaFJFQmRVag >> > 00000000&s=19102> >> >> >> This will show folk what it's like to get along to a Joni Fest when >> something impromptu, like this, can happen. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 23:17:27 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Fwd: Laurel Canyon I don't know if this has already been shared. Best, Gerry Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Gerald Kent > Date: April 5, 2015 at 2:57:50 PM EDT > To: Gerald Kent > > http://selvedgeyard.com/2015/03/25/laurel-canyon-daze-csn-joni-mitchell-jacks on-browne-mama-cass-the-eagles/ > > Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:56:33 -0400 From: Paul Ivice Subject: scholarly articles I too noticed the writer's complaint that there were no scholarly articles, symposia and so on about Joni's creative output. I guess she hasn't researched all that very well. But I think she was writing from the heart, the gut, whatever you want to call it. Many of us have felt that sense of being alone as Joniphiles... until we found this 'ere place. I think the writer was implying, and probably accurately, not that there are no such articles, but that the number and expanse of such articles and symposia pales in comparison to those about the works of Dylan, the Grateful Dead and others. And while Joni has her devoted fans and admirers, they are fewer in number that the fans of those aforementioned. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 23:16:18 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Smoking?? I am also a recovering tobacco addict. Quitting was the most difficult thing I may have ever done (20 + years now and I still miss it). I know Joni had tried to quit many years ago without success. Maybe "forced abstinence" will work? Let's see. Peace Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Sally wrote: > > I had a heart attack at 48. I was firing up a cig whilst waiting for the emergency help to arrive. In other words, I was dedicated to the land of tobacco. Three days in intensive care cured my dedication as I'm sure it may cure Joni's. Withdrawals but we get over it. > > Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: >> >> Because people in intensive care often have oxygen, I'm sure smoking is not allowed. I thought of that, only because my father was quite a grouch when he was in the hospital and wasn't allowed to smoke. >> >> Lots of love, >> Anne >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: >>> >>> It's been several days now. I wonder if Joni has wanted to/been allowed to/been well enough to smoke. It's such a part of her life. Any thoughts? >>> >>> Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 21:57:35 -0400 From: Sally Subject: Re: Smoking?? I had a heart attack at 48. I was firing up a cig whilst waiting for the emergency help to arrive. In other words, I was dedicated to the land of tobacco. Three days in intensive care cured my dedication as I'm sure it may cure Joni's. Withdrawals but we get over it. Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > Because people in intensive care often have oxygen, I'm sure smoking is not allowed. I thought of that, only because my father was quite a grouch when he was in the hospital and wasn't allowed to smoke. > > Lots of love, > Anne > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: >> >> It's been several days now. I wonder if Joni has wanted to/been allowed to/been well enough to smoke. It's such a part of her life. Any thoughts? >> >> Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:59:45 -0400 From: maggie_mcnally@yahoo.com Subject: New Easter music So funny that Jack should post this. About 15 minutes ago, as I bustled in the kitchen making this and that, HOSL came on in my CD player. I had that same sense of discovery and synchronicity. How many times have I listened to that wonderful song, yet this line jumped out on this particular Easter Day. Happy Spring to one and all. Maggie McNally Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:38:30 -0500 From: Jack Merkel Subject: My surprise Joni / Easter connection Betty and I were invited to Easter brunch about an hour from the house so I was looking for music to play for the journey. Considering the current circumstances, some Joni was definitely in order. I've already listened to Hejira and DJRD and Blue and For The Roses, so I decided to play HOSL. First song, In France They Kiss On Main Street, when I was surprised by the unexpected Easter reference. "We'd all go looking for a party Looking to raise Jesus up from the dead" Looks like I may have a new Easter tradition! Jack Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:37:09 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Smoking?? I can't imagine they would let her smoke in the ICU of a hospital. Maybe this will finally break her of the habit. One can always hope. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: John E McGloin Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 1:09 PM To: 'JMDL' Subject: RE: Smoking?? I can't help thinking what part smoking might have played in Joni's illness. Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of anne madden Sent: 05 April 2015 18:34 To: Gerald Kent; JMDL Subject: Re: Smoking?? Nicotine patch will take away some of the craving butB hardly the same thing as puffing a cigarette.B Joni really seems to enjoy her cigs. On Sunday, April 5, 2015 10:07 AM, Gerald Kent wrote: It's been several days now.B I wonder if Joni has wanted to/been allowed to/been well enough to smoke.B It's such a part of her life.B Any thoughts? Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:21:40 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: Joni Article in the Guardian (UK) On 4/5/2015 7:15 AM, mep chorus.net wrote: > she seems to regard Joni's fan base as mainly female, not very > organized collectively, and traipsing off to listen to Joni's music in > solitude Grant writes: >>"What she always lacked was >> the obsessiveness of the male fanbase: the Deadheads and Dylanologists >> who catalogue and compete for record-collection kudos among a >> fraternity of admirers. Where are the dry, 1,000-page volumes of >> musical Joni-trivia, the conferences, the PhD dissertations?" > To which I answer: they're right here!!! Well, maybe not the PhD > dissertations, but just about everything else. Hi Mary P., What's it been, about a decade or so? Assume you're a Badgers fan; I'm rooting for them too. Lemme pick a theme for this: duality...love...spirituality...no, wait, pigeonholing, that's it. I'm guessing Ms. Grant isn't aware of the degree to which some have amassed libraries and collections of the works of Joni Mitchell. And yes, there are a fair share of males in that group. The Dead encouraged soundboard recordings during thousands of performances which naturally led to cataloging and trading and connecting. Old timers here will remember Joni tape trees and how thrilling it was to hear, often for the first time, live recordings of Joni performances that otherwise would have existed only in the memories of those originally present. Nevertheless, the perception, especially in light of the well-documented "obsessiveness" of Deadheads and Dylanites, is that Joni's music is played in a room lit by candles while chanting "Joni Mitchell never lies. Joni Mitchell never lies." Joni's "fanbase" is no less obsessed. It's just not as recognized. After all, it's hard to be noticed when you're stealing away to a quiet place to listen with all your intent to the words and music while you shut out everything else. Happy Easter to all. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 21:22:24 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Ignorance was bliss > The news raised stress but now we've no avenue to resolve that stress. Of course we do. There are hundreds of avenues. Take a walk, take a drive, take a ride, drink a toast to everything Joni has given the world and then have another round for these freaks and these soldiers, a round for these friends of mine and yours and Joni's, and another round for the bright red devil if it suits you. Everything is temporary. Everything is an illusion. Joni knows that; so should we. Lori Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 00:08:33 -0400 From: Anne Madden Subject: Re: Smoking?? Smokers have to really want to quit. No amount of preaching will work. Was heavy smoker myself for years. Quit almost 25 years ago. It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I have a lot of compassion for people who are hooked on tobacco. It's especially difficult to give them up when under stress. It's also one of the best decisions I've ever made. Here's hoping Joni will make the decision that's right for her. Anne p> Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: > > I am also a recovering tobacco addict. Quitting was the most difficult thing I may have ever done (20 + years now and I still miss it). I know Joni had tried to quit many years ago without success. Maybe "forced abstinence" will work? Let's see. Peace > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Sally wrote: >> >> I had a heart attack at 48. I was firing up a cig whilst waiting for the emergency help to arrive. In other words, I was dedicated to the land of tobacco. Three days in intensive care cured my dedication as I'm sure it may cure Joni's. Withdrawals but we get over it. >> >> Sent from Confunction Junction on my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: >>> >>> Because people in intensive care often have oxygen, I'm sure smoking is not allowed. I thought of that, only because my father was quite a grouch when he was in the hospital and wasn't allowed to smoke. >>> >>> Lots of love, >>> Anne >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: >>>> >>>> It's been several days now. I wonder if Joni has wanted to/been allowed to/been well enough to smoke. It's such a part of her life. Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1941 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------