From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #177 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 177 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: James Booker NJC [Michael Paz ] James Booker NJC [Anita G ] New Library item: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Carry On [TheStaff@JoniMit] RE: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintenance Post with NJC [Bob.Muller@] Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC ["Cassy" ] How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC [Anita G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:36:18 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: James Booker NJC Hi Anita He was an incredible musician and I just saw a documentary about him that was shown at the Civic Theater during the film fest here. I was not in the biz yet when I saw him but I did manage to see him at Jazz Fest early on as well as at The Old Absinthe House on Bourbon street back in the day. Bet Paz On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Anita G wrote: Michael, as your talking great musicians you have known and loved and about life in NO, I was listening to a radio programme on our BBC Radio 4 on Tuesday about James Booker. It was a half an hour slot about him, his playing and his life. I wondered if you'd ever seen him play. He sounded simply incredible and the kind of guy where music was his whole life. He seemed so talented yet so unrecognised. I thought of you whilst I listened and wondered if he had crossed your path. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:11:32 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: James Booker NJC Michael, as your talking great musicians you have known and loved and about life in NO, I was listening to a radio programme on our BBC Radio 4 on Tuesday about James Booker. It was a half an hour slot about him, his playing and his life. I wondered if you'd ever seen him play. He sounded simply incredible and the kind of guy where music was his whole life. He seemed so talented yet so unrecognised. I thought of you whilst I listened and wondered if he had crossed your path. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:02:54 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Carry On Title: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Carry On Publication: Crawdaddy (Magazine) Date: 1974.10.0 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2742 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:35:58 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintenance Post with NJC Ha! Thanks Sue - it is a rather macabre thing to think about but it is inevitable. My wife and I did our wills/power of attorney docs a couple of years ago and it's funny (weird funny, not haha funny) to talk about your own mortality but obviously that time will come for us all. Sadly we've already experienced the loss of some of our precious JMDL friends in the last decade, and ain't none of us getting any younger. Back to Anita's point - the feeling of being ignored is likely one that we ALL have felt from time to time. Unfortunately, the JMDL emails don't have a "Like" button to show that people have seen what you've posted and acknowledged it. The JMDL is a crazy place...look, we just had an interesting funeral song thread started by someone who isn't even on the list! I do my best to make everyone feel welcome and feel that their thoughts are seen and appreciated but at the end of the day folks can come and go at their will. I always revert to what my sister said when I told her I joined the JMDL..."Oh, I bet Joni Mitchell fans feel things VERY deeply". And she's right. We're much more sensitive than the world outside this frame. I need your confidence baby, and the gift of your extra time. Extra time - there's a whole 'nuther subject. If you feel like you're ignored, just dig in and keep the thoughts coming. You never know what will get response. Or you can call Katy Perry a peabrain, that'll get lots of response but it might not be what you want to hear. Bob, ignoring Paz from now on NP: Eels, "Wonderful, Glorious" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC There's also this lingering fear of posting "Me too" posts, which would be the smoe equivalent of the "like" button and, whereas that's frowned on in this type of list, it's considered a good thing in Facebookworld. I think Facebook may be responsible for some of the slow times around here, but they are two very different media and each has its own uses. Even though there's a jmdl group on Facebook as well as a jonimitchell.com one (AND a Joni Mitchell fans one that someone started), I don't find that really the best place for a real in-depth discussion. I'm not sure if the "What Joni songs to play at funerals" thread would have worked quite so well there. At present, I have a love/hate relationship with Facebook. It is a good way to share things with friends, relations and acquaintances but it can be intrusive and it's such a time-waster! There are many times I've liked something that people have posted here and I would gladly respond to all of the song suggestions for Joni-funeral-songs, except that would annoy the crap out of a lot of people (me too, I guess.) Here a "like" button would do the trick. And too, I appreciate Bob's covers project - better him than me, I say, as I do not have the tenacity, the will or the attention span to stick with anything for very long. But, because he also posts the links for these on Facebook, I can "like" it there, which comes in handy. Here in Toronto and glad to be retired and not having to commute, because today's snow has wreaked the usual havoc on roads, commuter trains and common sense. But it looks pretty from here on the 16th floor. >________________________________ > From: Anita >To: Cassy >Cc: jonipeople LIST >Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 5:04:30 PM >Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC > > >On 5 Feb 2014, at 21:58, "Cassy" wrote: > > >> The absence of a "like" button slows us all down, I think. > >Hi Cassy, glad you're still there, lurking or not. As for the absence of a like button slowing us all down, sounds like a blessing to me - but then I recognise myself as a crank! >Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:59:20 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC Very nice Anita! That said I never comment on Bob's covers cause its embarrasing having all these diskoids around the house as cocktail coasters and having to explain them to my friends.. ;D Love Paz On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Anita G wrote: Hello Everyone I just wanted to put out into the ether a little about how each of us manages when we send something to the list that doesn't get a response. During the past three months I have had several off list chats with folk who have struggled with posts that have not been acknowledged or been responded to. It seems quite fortunate for me personally that I am tough skinned most of the time, so when something I post doesn't get picked up, I don't tend to mind. I remember in particular the threads about the Ballet. When no-one picked them up and feeling a little mischievous, I started writing to myself on JMDL. I ensured that I praised my thread and said that I found myself most interesting, though no one else did! :~)) I also think about the myriad of covers Bob has posted. I am fairly sure they're not always commented on and I don't think I personally have ever commented on the Covers post, but I hope Bob knows how much I love and appreciate him and all the effort he puts in to undertaking this task. However, it is hard to realise that people who might be feeling vulnerable or maybe don't post so often have a hard time if their post doesn't get responded to and they feel invisible. I know each of us can't respond to everything (people's lives are very busy), there are only so many hours in the day and the truth is some things interest me and not others. I'm sure that's true for all of us. It also may be that the post someone sends that is unacknowledged may still be is very important to someone. The most important thing to me is that I know most of the people on this list are really super, caring folk who love the music of Joni Mitchell. I know that we are a bit like a family that functions really well and sometimes not so well. I would never intentionally ignore anyone here and I don't think any of us do. If you are feeling a bit 'out' and/or ignored or fearful of not being responded to, please don't let it stop you from hitting that Send button. Everyone has a right to be here. There is much more on JMDL that is good, than is bad. Join in when you want to and know that there's nothing wrong or anything awful about you, if you don't get a response. And I am sorry if I missed something from someone that felt really important and I didn't say so. I am feeling and sending all the Love in my room. I might even start another Ballet thread! :~)) Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:04:30 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC On 5 Feb 2014, at 21:58, "Cassy" wrote: > The absence of a "like" button slows us all down, I think. Hi Cassy, glad you're still there, lurking or not. As for the absence of a like button slowing us all down, sounds like a blessing to me - but then I recognise myself as a crank! Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:51:26 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintenance Post with NJC Oh YAY! Now everyone put on the tennis shoes drink the kool-aid and repeat after me.... there's no place like the JMDL, there's no place like the JMDL. there's no place..... On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Ha! Thanks Sue - it is a rather macabre thing to think about but it is inevitable. My wife and I did our wills/power of attorney docs a couple of years ago and it's funny (weird funny, not haha funny) to talk about your own mortality but obviously that time will come for us all. Sadly we've already experienced the loss of some of our precious JMDL friends in the last decade, and ain't none of us getting any younger. Back to Anita's point - the feeling of being ignored is likely one that we ALL have felt from time to time. Unfortunately, the JMDL emails don't have a "Like" button to show that people have seen what you've posted and acknowledged it. The JMDL is a crazy place...look, we just had an interesting funeral song thread started by someone who isn't even on the list! I do my best to make everyone feel welcome and feel that their thoughts are seen and appreciated but at the end of the day folks can come and go at their will. I always revert to what my sister said when I told her I joined the JMDL..."Oh, I bet Joni Mitchell fans feel things VERY deeply". And she's right. We're much more sensitive than the world outside this frame. I need your confidence baby, and the gift of your extra time. Extra time - there's a whole 'nuther subject. If you feel like you're ignored, just dig in and keep the thoughts coming. You never know what will get response. Or you can call Katy Perry a peabrain, that'll get lots of response but it might not be what you want to hear. Bob, ignoring Paz from now on NP: Eels, "Wonderful, Glorious" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:16:11 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC Thanks for thinking of us all, Anita. I think this list is a caring fun place and I have often posted and not got a response. It's ok, I can psychically hear the ME TOOs out there ... we all adore Joni's music and our big wish is that SHE will respond to our posts ... or our birthday cards, but that's another story!! :-) even that doesn't bother me too much, it's all about the love. Also, I couldn't respond to the description of Bob's funeral because I wouldn't be able to face it!!! Long Live the Covers King!!! <3 Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Paz Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:59 PM To: Anita G Cc: jonipeople LIST Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC Very nice Anita! That said I never comment on Bob's covers cause its embarrasing having all these diskoids around the house as cocktail coasters and having to explain them to my friends.. ;D Love Paz On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Anita G wrote: Hello Everyone I just wanted to put out into the ether a little about how each of us manages when we send something to the list that doesn't get a response. During the past three months I have had several off list chats with folk who have struggled with posts that have not been acknowledged or been responded to. It seems quite fortunate for me personally that I am tough skinned most of the time, so when something I post doesn't get picked up, I don't tend to mind. I remember in particular the threads about the Ballet. When no-one picked them up and feeling a little mischievous, I started writing to myself on JMDL. I ensured that I praised my thread and said that I found myself most interesting, though no one else did! :~)) I also think about the myriad of covers Bob has posted. I am fairly sure they're not always commented on and I don't think I personally have ever commented on the Covers post, but I hope Bob knows how much I love and appreciate him and all the effort he puts in to undertaking this task. However, it is hard to realise that people who might be feeling vulnerable or maybe don't post so often have a hard time if their post doesn't get responded to and they feel invisible. I know each of us can't respond to everything (people's lives are very busy), there are only so many hours in the day and the truth is some things interest me and not others. I'm sure that's true for all of us. It also may be that the post someone sends that is unacknowledged may still be is very important to someone. The most important thing to me is that I know most of the people on this list are really super, caring folk who love the music of Joni Mitchell. I know that we are a bit like a family that functions really well and sometimes not so well. I would never intentionally ignore anyone here and I don't think any of us do. If you are feeling a bit 'out' and/or ignored or fearful of not being responded to, please don't let it stop you from hitting that Send button. Everyone has a right to be here. There is much more on JMDL that is good, than is bad. Join in when you want to and know that there's nothing wrong or anything awful about you, if you don't get a response. And I am sorry if I missed something from someone that felt really important and I didn't say so. I am feeling and sending all the Love in my room. I might even start another Ballet thread! :~)) Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 10:13:45 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC NJC Re: Funeral songs? NJC Now Idol NJC NJC I agree - I enjoyed some of the singers last season but the judging was terrible. Too much focus on rambling Mariah and goofy Nikki. Poor keith Urban was lost in the shuffle. This season, with Harry on board, he's been able to offer more substantive criticism and J-Lo has had to step up above and beyond saying that she got the goosies. Still too early to have any favorites, I guess Hollywood week starts this week so they will start falling like flies. Go Harsh Harry! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 11:35:34 -0600 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Death and other fun things > William T. O'Connor, MD wrote: > > "If your intention is to play a Joni song for the dead person to hear, its too late for that...' Don't be too sure. It wouldn't surprise me if Joni's songs might wake the dead. Bob will no doubt wake to haunt us every time we play Dancing Clown. Ass for an image of Bob dead, Smurf just whispered in my ear, "Bob will have an erection when he is laid to rest." Now he 's singing Boo Whoo in drag. Lovely day, Laura Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:58:47 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC The absence of a "like" button slows us all down, I think. I am guilty of lurking most of the time these days. With the changes in social media a list of this sort, while formerly a wonder for us all because we could communicate en masse, has fallen a bit behind the times, It is still fun and educational and keeps many of us in touch with one another's lives. That is why I still lurk. I have had many posts that went by without any comment and others that stirred a fury of exchanges... mostly crickets though. I still really enjoy the JMDL. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:34:39 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Funeral songs? I got a chance to chat with Harry yesterday after the show and told him that I thought he brought alot of music cred to the show. He was very gracious and kinda blushed. It was a funny moment. I have done tons of gigs over the years with him and the first one being when he was playing at a new club in New Orleans and we provided the PA for his band. He is was doing a funk/rap kinda thing which was a bit removed from his Jazz background. The images of hi playing with James Booker came rushing back yesterday as he nurtured the kids that performed with him at the fundraiser yesterday. Best Paz On Feb 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Mark wrote: I'd love to hear Harry Connick, Jr. and Branford Marsalis do it, you lucky dawg! Harry Connick, Jr. is proving to be quite an interesting American Idol judge. Not afraid to call 'em like he sees 'em and that includes singers throwing in too many gratuitous vocal runs. And I felt kinda bad for Peyton Manning, too, btw. Mark in Seahawks Country - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:13 AM To: Victor Johnson Cc: Les Irvin ; apelleschi@jaspervincent.com ; Joni List Subject: Re: Funeral songs? WoW This is SO surreal. I have Harry Connick, Jr. and Branford Marsalis on stage right now and they are playing St. James Infirmary which is a notorious New Orleans Jazz funeral march. I would love to hear Joni sing that one. I agree the Love would be an appropriate song tho. Best Paz On Feb 4, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: I think "Love" would be a great choice. Victor in Atlanta On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > Any suggestions for Angela? > > "I am arranging a funeral for a client who was an avid Joni Mitchell fan, > can you please give me an idea of an appropriate piece of her music to play > at the crematorium? - the funeral is 13th February so I would appreciate a > quick response." > > Name: Angela Pelelschi > email: apelleschi@jaspervincent.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:39:46 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: How do we cope on JMDL if we feel ignored? Group Maintainance Post with NJC Hello Everyone I just wanted to put out into the ether a little about how each of us manages when we send something to the list that doesn't get a response. During the past three months I have had several off list chats with folk who have struggled with posts that have not been acknowledged or been responded to. It seems quite fortunate for me personally that I am tough skinned most of the time, so when something I post doesn't get picked up, I don't tend to mind. I remember in particular the threads about the Ballet. When no-one picked them up and feeling a little mischievous, I started writing to myself on JMDL. I ensured that I praised my thread and said that I found myself most interesting, though no one else did! :~)) I also think about the myriad of covers Bob has posted. I am fairly sure they're not always commented on and I don't think I personally have ever commented on the Covers post, but I hope Bob knows how much I love and appreciate him and all the effort he puts in to undertaking this task. However, it is hard to realise that people who might be feeling vulnerable or maybe don't post so often have a hard time if their post doesn't get responded to and they feel invisible. I know each of us can't respond to everything (people's lives are very busy), there are only so many hours in the day and the truth is some things interest me and not others. I'm sure that's true for all of us. It also may be that the post someone sends that is unacknowledged may still be is very important to someone. The most important thing to me is that I know most of the people on this list are really super, caring folk who love the music of Joni Mitchell. I know that we are a bit like a family that functions really well and sometimes not so well. I would never intentionally ignore anyone here and I don't think any of us do. If you are feeling a bit 'out' and/or ignored or fearful of not being responded to, please don't let it stop you from hitting that Send button. Everyone has a right to be here. There is much more on JMDL that is good, than is bad. Join in when you want to and know that there's nothing wrong or anything awful about you, if you don't get a response. And I am sorry if I missed something from someone that felt really important and I didn't say so. I am feeling and sending all the Love in my room. I might even start another Ballet thread! :~)) Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:52:09 -0500 From: Barbara Sullivan Subject: Anyway... I feel like there has been an Bio done all ready ( by her). Let's face it, she is a writer.I believe everything will be said in truth, when she dies, by her. Maybe not right away.I may not live to see or read it. But she has always had direction and order. That is why shestays awake at night painting, thinking, contemplating her next Amazing Move!Just Tripin' on Joni tonight and Super Bowl...not really into football except tonight... Luv the commercials! Anyway...Babs ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #177 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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