From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1697 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, January 29 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1697 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Arbutus Rustling [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1696 [Tom Ross ] a little shameless self-promo [David Lahm ] Re: Turbulent Indigo [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] wayne, fireplace [Tom Ross ] Re: Turbulent Indigo [Clint Norwood ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:20:27 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Arbutus Rustling I would say this is a Joni original. On her 1974 tour, she played For The Roses and introduced it with a story about retreating to British Columbia for her first retirement and stepping outside among the arbutus trees, hearing the wind blowing through them, and realizing that it sounded like applause. Bob NP: Wicked Cast Album, "I'm Not That Girl" (prepping to see Wicked tonight) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. 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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, January 29 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1696 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Neil's Pono Player Arrives, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" > Re: Turbulent Indigo [Clint Norwood < > dahrius1@yahoo.com>] > Re: a little shameless self-promo [Brian Gross < > briangross@rocketmail.com] > Re: a little shameless self-promo [David Lahm < > dflahm@gmail.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:05:54 -0500 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Subject: Neil's Pono Player Arrives, njc > > First Pono review: > http://www.audiostream.com/content/pono-player > > Jim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:50:44 +0000 (UTC) > From: Clint Norwood > Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo > > I agree fully Joe. Shakespeare, Vincent Van Gogh and Joni Mitchell are > people > think of immediately when I hear the word art. Those are three of the best > referenced and singing together. :)-Clint > > > On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:52 PM, Joe Farrell > wrote: > > > Absolutely Clint.B > Not for the first time Joni adapted lines from the Bard. 'From the "slings > and > arrows of outrageous romance" I stole that from Willy the Shake, You know > neither a borrower nor a lender be" (both also from Hamlet) Romeo Romeo > talk > to me.' "Talk to Me" DJRD. > But then that is what many great artists do. None more so than Shakespeare > who > adapted many ideas, phrases and sayings from the source material he used > for a > number of his greatest plays. She is in good company. > Regards, > Joe. > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Clint Norwood wrote: > > "Why, then, b tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but > thinking makes it so." > Hamlet (II, ii) > > > On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:22 AM, "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > wrote: > > > Those are some powerful lyrics indeed. Hardly a day goes by that the "as > if thinking makes it so" line doesn't enter my head when I read someone > pontificating some falsehood but believing it so fervently that it becomes > the truth for them. > > Bob > > NP: Jim White, "Blood on the Fiddle, Blood on the Bow" > > > > > From:B Joe Farrell > To:B B joni , > Cc:B B "bob.muller" > Date:B 01/27/2015 11:08 AM > Subject:B B B B Re: Turbulent Indigo > > > > I agree Bob. TI is a wonderful album and the standout track, for me at > least is "Borderline". It is such a perceptive and insightful track: > "Every bristling shaft of pride, Church or nation, Team or tribe, Every > notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline". How many conflicts have > been, and are still being, fought in the name of religion or nationalism, > or both. How astutely Joni sums that up in just five lines. Brilliant and > particularly poignant today Holocaust Remembrance Day. > > There are also those wonderful lines: " Good or bad, we think we know; as > if thinking makes it so! All convictions grow along a borderline" In three > short, concise lines she manages to convey so much that is both thoughtful > and thought provoking. She is an incredible artist. > > Regards, > > Joe. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material.B > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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DL > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Brian Gross > wrote: > > > To which I'll gladly add that both of David's albums of jazz takes on > Joni > > are on sale at Deep Discount. > > http://www.deepdiscount.com/search?mod=AM&ar=David+Lahm|801338 > > > > Brian > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. > > And usually for the same reasons. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 1/27/15, David Lahm wrote: > > > > Subject: a little shameless self-promo > > To: joni@smoe.org, babyshoeless@gmail.com > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015, 9:44 AM > > > > My CD, MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI > > MITCHELL includes my own bow to Shorter, > > "Wayne Swirled." > > > > > > > > DAVID LAHM > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1696 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:44:00 -0500 From: David Lahm Subject: a little shameless self-promo My CD, MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL includes my own bow to Shorter, "Wayne Swirled." DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:19:02 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo Those are some powerful lyrics indeed. Hardly a day goes by that the "as if thinking makes it so" line doesn't enter my head when I read someone pontificating some falsehood but believing it so fervently that it becomes the truth for them. Bob NP: Jim White, "Blood on the Fiddle, Blood on the Bow" From: Joe Farrell To: joni , Cc: "bob.muller" Date: 01/27/2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo I agree Bob. TI is a wonderful album and the standout track, for me at least is "Borderline". It is such a perceptive and insightful track: "Every bristling shaft of pride, Church or nation, Team or tribe, Every notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline". How many conflicts have been, and are still being, fought in the name of religion or nationalism, or both. How astutely Joni sums that up in just five lines. Brilliant and particularly poignant today Holocaust Remembrance Day. There are also those wonderful lines: " Good or bad, we think we know; as if thinking makes it so! All convictions grow along a borderline" In three short, concise lines she manages to convey so much that is both thoughtful and thought provoking. She is an incredible artist. Regards, Joe. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 05:36:33 -0700 From: Tom Ross Subject: wayne, fireplace Wayne Shorter is the tenor player for me. Check him out wth the great '65-66 Miles quintet on albums such as "Nefertiti." The title tune and "Miss Mabry" are groundbreaking and beautiful. Horns sometimes as background, with Tony Williams to the front. Dave Cramer wrote a tune called "Is Wayne Shorter Than Me?" ;) "Piss in your fireplace" i think is a reference to a drunken Jackson Pollock. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:59:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo "Why, then, btis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet (II, ii) On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:22 AM, "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" wrote: Those are some powerful lyrics indeed. Hardly a day goes by that the "as if thinking makes it so" line doesn't enter my head when I read someone pontificating some falsehood but believing it so fervently that it becomes the truth for them. Bob NP: Jim White, "Blood on the Fiddle, Blood on the Bow" From:B Joe Farrell To:B B joni , Cc:B B "bob.muller" Date:B 01/27/2015 11:08 AM Subject:B B B B Re: Turbulent Indigo I agree Bob. TI is a wonderful album and the standout track, for me at least is "Borderline". It is such a perceptive and insightful track: "Every bristling shaft of pride, Church or nation, Team or tribe, Every notion we subscribe to Is just a borderline". How many conflicts have been, and are still being, fought in the name of religion or nationalism, or both. How astutely Joni sums that up in just five lines. Brilliant and particularly poignant today Holocaust Remembrance Day. There are also those wonderful lines: " Good or bad, we think we know; as if thinking makes it so! All convictions grow along a borderline" In three short, concise lines she manages to convey so much that is both thoughtful and thought provoking. She is an incredible artist. Regards, Joe. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material.B If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices.B Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company.B - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1697 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------