From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1694 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 27 2015 Volume 2014 : Number 1694 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- borderlines [ingrid lochrenberg ] Turbulent Indigo [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Turbulent Indigo [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFVtVTZJRk5oWkNCdVpYZHpPaUJVYjJ4c1pYSWdRM0poYm5OM GIyNGdhR0Z6?= =?utf-8?B?SUhCaGMzTmxaIEE9PQ==?= ["=?utf-8?B?Z3BrbTYyMDhAY29] RE: Turbulent Indigo ["Susan E. McNamara" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:43:24 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: borderlines I've listened to "Borderlines" again. It is no good to be authorititive just because of dictating the terms. It is no good to be arrogant and derisive about an alternative opinion either. It brings me no joy and i don't want to go down that road no more . And Joni delivers that message with the warmest guitar playing. I think her warmest song of all is "woman of heart and mind"...i think for just plain carrying one along with it's lyricism and emotion it is the song that I would've loved if it wasn't for the brilliance of the rhythm and lyrics and visionary quality innovation of other songs. I imagine that most people lapping up Van Gogh's art works would have sentenced him to chemical torture by psychiatric injections in the worst of american jails, were he alive now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:35:08 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Turbulent Indigo On Thursday I said: <> And, as I strive to always be, I was good to my word. And as much as I enjoy constantly shuffling my music and having a mix of genres and artists, I do enjoy listening to albums in their entirety so this was a great start to my road trip. I did not buy TI until AFTER it was a Grammy winner, and I never REALLY listened and appreciated it in its depth until I joined this group, which wasn't too too much later. Anyway, I am a TI fan. Sunny Sunday is a great starter, one of my favorite 'portrait' songs of hers, it's so direct and clearly stated yet you get to fill in the details surrounding her situation. How Do You Stop is a better song than I've given it credit for. Of course it's not hers, but when you hear it and look at the words you can see why she decided to record it. It's almost the anti-Last Chance Lost entry, "Fame and fortune can't hold you tight, in the late late hours of the night", "You think love will wait, so you don't hold on, and then it's gone", as compared to "the shrew will not be tamed"...love slipping away as opposed to facing it head on and dismissing it. "Last Chance Lost" is a great song and REALLY became one for me when I heard Bettye Lavette perform it. Still dying to hear her record and release it. Borderline may be my favorite song on the record, perhaps because I feel like in America these days EVERYTHING gets a borderline drawn through it. It's refreshing to see the responses about Ernie Banks in the wake of his passing, a gentle man and a gentleman and EVERYTHING that is said of him is good. No borderline, we don't have to decide which side of the Ernie Banks fence we are on. So little out there that gives us common ground as a nation. And every time I hear the phrase "you snipe so steady, you snub so snide, so ripe and ready, to diminish and deride" I just wonder how long and how hard she had to work to get to there, and how few writers would bother to do so. Some clever alliteration too, but nothing done in a gimmicky way, everything serving the message of the song. This is one of those songs that I hear and I think "no one but Joni Mitchell could have written this song". The other thing that really stands out throughout the record is Wayne Shorter's amazing playing. I don't always like everything he does but on this record he's nearly perfect and accenting Joni's lyrics brilliantly. If you haven't listened to TI in its entirety in awhile, do yourself a favor and give it a ride. I enjoyed listening in the car because I had no distractions. It's an album that demands your attention so it was great to spend 45 minutes with it. Bob NP: Shuggie Otis, "Give Me A Chance" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:19:19 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo Yeah, Magdalene Laundries is such a sad song, if I'm really listening to it, once she gets to the Peg O'Connell part of it I get a bit emotional. If there's a weak song, or should I say a song that I don't get into as much it's "Not To Blame". I wouldn't say it's a terrible song but for me it pales next to the others on this record chock full of many many GREAT ones. Bob NP: Ben Folds, "Do It Anyway" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Gerry Sent from my HTC - ----- Reply message ----- From: "Michael Paz" To: "gpkm6208@comcast.net" Cc: "c Karma" , "joni@smoe.org" Subject: UmU6IFNhZCBuZXdzOiBUb2xsZXIgQ3JhbnN0b24gaGFzIHBhc3NlZ A== Date: Sun, Jan 25, 2015 2:38 PM It is definitely tentatively planned for Labor Day Weekend. Best Paz On Jan 24, 2015, at 9:09 PM, gpkm6208@comcast.net wrote: There was some discussion a while back about a possible Jonifest in South Carolina in 2015. Does anyone know if this is still a possibility? Thanks, Gerry Sent from my HTC - ----- Reply message ----- From: "c Karma" To: "joni@smoe.org" Subject: Sad news: Toller Cranston has passed Date: Sat, Jan 24, 2015 5:21 PM Flipping the channels, stopping on US Figure Skating broadcast just in time to hear the anchors report the news that Toller Cranston has died. I don't have any other details. You may remember that Toller Cranston was the highly regarded figure skater that appeared in the photographs used in the album package and songbook photos for Hejira. Scott Hamilton was visibly upset by the news and weeped through the delivery of this sad news. Please rest in peace, Toller Cranston. Thank you for your grace. CC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:41:20 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Turbulent Indigo Other than the subject matter, Not To Blame, could be the weak song on the album for two reasons, 1) the musical theme was based on Dylan's It's All Over Now Baby Blue and 2) it's the only piano song on an album pretty much held together otherwise by her impeccable acoustic guitar style. Although in the same way I judge other songs by Joni that are "weak" I think Not to Blame is a very powerful song, especially the verse, "Six hundred thousand doctors are putting on rubber gloves, and they're poking at the miseries made of love ..." Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 4:19 PM To: Anita Gabrielle Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo Yeah, Magdalene Laundries is such a sad song, if I'm really listening to it, once she gets to the Peg O'Connell part of it I get a bit emotional. If there's a weak song, or should I say a song that I don't get into as much it's "Not To Blame". I wouldn't say it's a terrible song but for me it pales next to the others on this record chock full of many many GREAT ones. Bob NP: Ben Folds, "Do It Anyway" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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