From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1579 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, December 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1579 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- STACC lyric [Jeff Clark ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 ["kimberly" ] Re: New Library item: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced [] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: NPR Music's 50 Favorite Albums Of 2014 - NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Album representation on LHMF ["Susan E. McNamara" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:38:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: STACC lyric B <B > maybe whats being "said" is that the person is a good listener; so few people listen these days. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:39:22 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 Our concert last Sunday night in Santa Barbara was sold out, a good reminder of how hungry people are for Joni's music especially since the release of Love Has Many Faces. The confirmation to continue on this path was a great gift for our group. There will be songs to hear and view from this concert soon. We're still in the studio editing what we got Sunday. Could someone please remind me of the thread for the call for "White Papers," on Joni's work in the UK? Turns out I'm headed that way in the spring and would love to know more about this conference. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 JMDL Digest Thursday, December 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1578 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- My favorite changes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Songs to Aging Children Come [Anita Gabrielle ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:18:05 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: My favorite changes, njc Steve Stills wrote a pretty damn good song called "My Favorite Changes". That has nothing to do with this post except that it makes a catchy subject line. This week I heard James Gang song, and another song kept running through my mind. I think Kenny Loggins lifted the guitar part on "Footloose". Check it out. Imagine playing the melody on a fuzzy guitar to these words: Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees Jack, get back, come on before we crack That's "Funk #49"! Jim cc: Em and Kakki 'cause I know ya'll can relate. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:32:07 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Songs to Aging Children Come Sue, I always thought it was "said". Hearing it as "sad" in listening is an interesting idea. There can be much sadness in listening, Anita > On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am almost ready to post my instructional video of STACC to JM.com, and a lyric debate came to mind: is it So much said in listening or So much sad in listening? I guess I know that the correct answer is the former, but I cling to sad for no apparent reason other than it works for me. Discuss. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:29:36 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rests between tracks And then there's all those Stevie Wonder & Todd Rundgren albums that have NO rests between songs. Bob NP: Nick Lowe, "Music For Money" From: Laurie Antonioli To: Dave Blackburn , Cc: Chris Coccaro , JMDL JMDL Date: 12/09/2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Rests between tracks Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Yes, Dave. I was working with Mark Wilder, he is one of THE top mastering guys in the business (he re-mastered the "Kind of Blue" record by Miles Davis, for instance.) He encouraged me a couple of times, when I wanted to wait one second longer, to go ahead and start a bit sooner just for that reason. We spoke about the "4 second" pause. People now will just hit "next" if that much time passes. Sad, really. Laurie On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Laurie, and I might add that attention spans being what they are > these days, people are putting far less space between songs than they used > to. 4 seconds, which was once commonplace, feels like an eternity now! > > Dave > > > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > > are always calculated - it's part of mastering and programming. Most > don't > > listen like they "used to" - but - for instance, I spent a long time in > the > > mastering studio on "Songs of Shadow" with the engineer breathing between > > songs. Listening to the exact nano-second when the next tune should > > start. People listen on "shuffle" now or just buy one song off the > record > > on iTunes, but, those of us who still make "records" spend an inordinate > > amount of time doing this. No doubt Joni did, too. The whole point of > her > > latest release is to listen straight through and those rests add to the > > drama and how each next song is presented. > > > > Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:51:51 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Hmmm...now what makes it a Christmas song exactly? Because it's on the same album as "River"? Because Elvis had a hit with "Blue Christmas"? If "Blue" is a Christmas song then EVERY song is a Christmas song. Or did you mean to say "River"? Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Repectable" From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 08:28 AM Subject: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Don't know if everyone saw this but, this morning, I noticed Joni's "Blue" was included in Huff Post's list of "20 Saddest Christmas Songs." I love the song but have to agree it fits the criteria. Kenny B - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. 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Bob NP: Turner Brothers, "Please The People" From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 06:42 PM Subject: New Library item: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Title: Graded on a Curve: Joni Mitchell, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting to be Danced Publication: TheVinylDistrict.com Date: 2014.12.9 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2884 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:43:30 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 https://courtandsparksymposium.wordpress.com/ Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kimberly Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:39 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 Our concert last Sunday night in Santa Barbara was sold out, a good reminder of how hungry people are for Joni's music especially since the release of Love Has Many Faces. The confirmation to continue on this path was a great gift for our group. There will be songs to hear and view from this concert soon. We're still in the studio editing what we got Sunday. Could someone please remind me of the thread for the call for "White Papers," on Joni's work in the UK? Turns out I'm headed that way in the spring and would love to know more about this conference. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1578 JMDL Digest Thursday, December 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1578 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- My favorite changes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Songs to Aging Children Come [Anita Gabrielle ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:18:05 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: My favorite changes, njc Steve Stills wrote a pretty damn good song called "My Favorite Changes". That has nothing to do with this post except that it makes a catchy subject line. This week I heard James Gang song, and another song kept running through my mind. I think Kenny Loggins lifted the guitar part on "Footloose". Check it out. Imagine playing the melody on a fuzzy guitar to these words: Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees Jack, get back, come on before we crack That's "Funk #49"! Jim cc: Em and Kakki 'cause I know ya'll can relate. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:32:07 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Songs to Aging Children Come Sue, I always thought it was "said". Hearing it as "sad" in listening is an interesting idea. There can be much sadness in listening, Anita > On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > I am almost ready to post my instructional video of STACC to JM.com, and a lyric debate came to mind: is it So much said in listening or So much sad in listening? I guess I know that the correct answer is the former, but I cling to sad for no apparent reason other than it works for me. Discuss. > > Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:29:36 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rests between tracks And then there's all those Stevie Wonder & Todd Rundgren albums that have NO rests between songs. Bob NP: Nick Lowe, "Music For Money" From: Laurie Antonioli To: Dave Blackburn , Cc: Chris Coccaro , JMDL JMDL Date: 12/09/2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Rests between tracks Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Yes, Dave. I was working with Mark Wilder, he is one of THE top mastering guys in the business (he re-mastered the "Kind of Blue" record by Miles Davis, for instance.) He encouraged me a couple of times, when I wanted to wait one second longer, to go ahead and start a bit sooner just for that reason. We spoke about the "4 second" pause. People now will just hit "next" if that much time passes. Sad, really. Laurie On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Laurie, and I might add that attention spans being what they are > these days, people are putting far less space between songs than they used > to. 4 seconds, which was once commonplace, feels like an eternity now! > > Dave > > > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > > are always calculated - it's part of mastering and programming. Most > don't > > listen like they "used to" - but - for instance, I spent a long time in > the > > mastering studio on "Songs of Shadow" with the engineer breathing between > > songs. Listening to the exact nano-second when the next tune should > > start. People listen on "shuffle" now or just buy one song off the > record > > on iTunes, but, those of us who still make "records" spend an inordinate > > amount of time doing this. No doubt Joni did, too. The whole point of > her > > latest release is to listen straight through and those rests add to the > > drama and how each next song is presented. > > > > Laurie - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - - ------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:51:51 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Hmmm...now what makes it a Christmas song exactly? Because it's on the same album as "River"? Because Elvis had a hit with "Blue Christmas"? If "Blue" is a Christmas song then EVERY song is a Christmas song. Or did you mean to say "River"? Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Repectable" From: Ken To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/10/2014 08:28 AM Subject: Blue makes list of "Saddest Christmas Songs" Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Don't know if everyone saw this but, this morning, I noticed Joni's "Blue" was included in Huff Post's list of "20 Saddest Christmas Songs." I love the song but have to agree it fits the criteria. Kenny B - - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. 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As always, the NPR list is the most eclectic of all. I have only 2/3 in common, and a lot of their list is unlistenable to my ears. Brian always can be counted on to put out accessible, enjoyable and challenging work. Bob NP: Petula Clark, "I Want To Hold Your Hand" From: "Cassy" To: "JMDL" , Date: 12/10/2014 05:35 PM Subject: NPR Music's 50 Favorite Albums Of 2014 - NJC Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org I was thrilled to note the inclusion of Brian Blade & The Fellowship Band's "Landmarks" on this list: http://www.npr.org/2014/12/08/368731400/npr-musics-50-favorite-albums-of-2014 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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McNamara Cc: joni Subject: RE: Album representation on LHMF Thanks for doing that, Sue - so WTRF has three songs on LHMF, but none from the original release. Maybe the TLog takes lend themselves to ballet more so than the originals. I'm guessing that she just chose songs that weaved together the best and were the most cinematic. I don't have any insight, that's for sure. Bob NP: Pink Floyd, "Eyes To Pearls" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. 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