From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1567 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 8 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1567 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- joni on npr! [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure ["Allison Crowe Music" ] Album representation on LHMF ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: joni on npr! [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc [Moni Kellermann ] New Library item: THE RECORD [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] Re: the onstage guitar quandary ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:40:20 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: joni on npr! I was driving in the dark up east river road, as I do every morning and Joni appeared on NPR with Renee Montagne in an interview promoting her new "love has Many Faces" set! It was a very good interview. See if this will get you there: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=36 9276288&m=369276290 I was overcome with emotion to hear her in this unexpected way. Part two is tomorrow! Marianne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 00:52:08 -0800 From: "Allison Crowe Music" Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil were elemental and instrumental to the creation of Stevie Wonder's amazing 1970s albums "starting with Music of My Mind and continuing through Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Jungle Fever; all projects which listed Margouleff and Cecil as associate producers, engineers and programmers" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band ) Two musicians and technicians who had an huge hand in shaping Stevie's sound of this era - and who are little recognized for their roles. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:34:03 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc Thanks for posting about this, Dave and Adrian - I'm not afraid to plead ignorance and was not aware of the work and influence of these two gentlemen. Certainly an impressive resume and a significant part of Wonder's music. I had a good time last week listening to and talking about Stevie Wonder. I asked many many people "What do you think about Stevie Wonder?" or "What's you favorite Stevie Wonder song?" and everyone responded positively. And so many different answers! Some Stevie Wonder memories of mine...hearing "My Cherie Amour" while in the back seat of my Dad's Ford Fairlane, pushing to the front of my seat (no seat belts in the back seat in those days) and just STARING at the speaker in disbelief that something could sound SO GOOD. One of my first record purchases, a 45 of "You Are The Sunshine of My Life" as a Christmas present for my Mom. Still gets me emotional when I hear it now. Singing "Living For The City" in the car with my sister, and killing it (at least WE thought so). Getting home with "Songs In The Key of Life", opening it up and just reveling in the entire package...lyric books, 2 LP's and an EP of 4 bonus songs. And then playing it, and playing it, and playing it...being in a jazz bar when the band broke into "All I Do", catching the eye of a lady across the room, and dancing to it. Nobody else like him, that's a for sure. Bob NP: Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks, "Cinnamon and Lesbians" From: Dave Blackburn To: Allison Crowe Music , Cc: JMDL JMDL Date: 12/08/2014 09:12 AM Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Thanks for this post. Cecil and Margouleff deserve huge credit for those albums and indeed Stevie Wonders sudden synthesizer mastery, beginning in 1971, when the instrument was very new and hard to grasp, even IF you had eyesight to see the controls. The weaving monophonic violin lines he laid down on Superwomans middle section still stand as some of the most beautiful use of synthesizers ever. > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Allison Crowe Music wrote: > > Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil were elemental and instrumental to the creation of Stevie Wonder's amazing 1970s albums "starting with Music of My Mind and continuing through Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Jungle Fever; all projects which listed Margouleff and Cecil as associate producers, engineers and programmers" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band ) Two musicians and technicians who had an huge hand in shaping Stevie's sound of this era - and who are little recognized for their roles. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:52:57 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 Am 08.12.2014 um 02:40 schrieb Jeff Clark: > I came across a Joni interview on youtube, about half an > hour long where she talks mainly about her video editing process for the Come > in From the Cold video, but at the end shows and talks about her gorgeous > Steve Klein custom made guitar. In case no one has seen it it'sRencontre avec > Joni Mitchell a Los Angeles Archive INA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IPRFFeLBCI I liked it how she explained that to her a minute in video is shorter than a minute in music :) It's also fantastic that we can now watch the whole video for free on YT - - before that, you could only see a snippet on ina.fr where you still can buy the same video for EUR 2.99. moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:18:21 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Album representation on LHMF I've been listening to LHMF in my car and just start from the beginning again when I get through the 4th act, and this morning I felt the need to do a song count of which albums were represented. No songs from the first three albums, and no songs from both live albums. Night Ride Home comes in on top with 7, which made me think, was this the album that was made during a time in her life when love was good to her? 6 songs from Travelogue, 6 from Taming the Tiger and 6 from Court and Spark. 4 from Blue, 3 from Hissing. Other sad albums are DED, with only Tax Free, and DJRD, with DJRD! Only one song (You Turn Me On) from the fantastic For The Roses. One from Shine, Hana (which I love). I can make a pie chart! :) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:08:54 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: joni on npr! Am 08.12.2014 um 12:40 schrieb Marianne Rizzo: > See if this will get you there: > http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=36 > 9276288&m=369276290 That link is broken. (I know many people love those smiley faces in their mails but please consider using "plain text" for this list, it prevents "the link didn't work for me" replies as well as re-sending the proper link.) Anyway, the working link is http://www.npr.org/2014/12/08/369276288/after-decades-of-success-shes-still-just-a-painter-who-writes-songs You can also download the interview as mp3 (7:20 mins): http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2014/12/20141208_me_after_decades_of_success_shes_still_just_a_painter_who_writes_songs.mp3 Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 07:45:24 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc And this one, particularly about their work on Steviebs albums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuaSzFf7yq0 > On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > > Am 08.12.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Dave Blackburn: >> You can learn more about these electronic music pioneers, and their >> groundbreaking creation TONTO at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzG2vGwSYic > > video description: "Malcolm Cecil - one half of TONTO's Expanding Head Band - shows you around The Original New Timbral Orchestra. Called TONTO for short, this super synthesiser was used on Stevie Wonder's classic albums from the early 1970s, namely Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions and Fulfillingness' First Finale." > > > moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 07:22:55 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc You can learn more about these electronic music pioneers, and their groundbreaking creation TONTO at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band > On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Thanks for posting about this, Dave and Adrian - I'm not afraid to plead > ignorance and was not aware of the work and influence of these two > gentlemen. Certainly an impressive resume and a significant part of > Wonder's music. > > I had a good time last week listening to and talking about Stevie Wonder. > I asked many many people "What do you think about Stevie Wonder?" or > "What's you favorite Stevie Wonder song?" and everyone responded > positively. And so many different answers! > > Some Stevie Wonder memories of mine...hearing "My Cherie Amour" while in > the back seat of my Dad's Ford Fairlane, pushing to the front of my seat > (no seat belts in the back seat in those days) and just STARING at the > speaker in disbelief that something could sound SO GOOD. One of my first > record purchases, a 45 of "You Are The Sunshine of My Life" as a Christmas > present for my Mom. Still gets me emotional when I hear it now. Singing > "Living For The City" in the car with my sister, and killing it (at least > WE thought so). Getting home with "Songs In The Key of Life", opening it > up and just reveling in the entire package...lyric books, 2 LP's and an EP > of 4 bonus songs. And then playing it, and playing it, and playing > it...being in a jazz bar when the band broke into "All I Do", catching the > eye of a lady across the room, and dancing to it. > > Nobody else like him, that's a for sure. > > Bob > > NP: Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks, "Cinnamon and Lesbians" > > > > > From: Dave Blackburn > To: Allison Crowe Music , > Cc: JMDL JMDL > Date: 12/08/2014 09:12 AM > Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Thanks for this post. Cecil and Margouleff deserve huge credit for those > albums and indeed Stevie Wonders sudden synthesizer mastery, beginning in > 1971, when the instrument was very new and hard to grasp, even IF you had > eyesight to see the controls. The weaving monophonic violin lines he > laid down on Superwomans middle section still stand as some of the most > beautiful use of synthesizers ever. > > >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Allison Crowe Music > wrote: >> >> Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil were elemental and instrumental to > the creation of Stevie Wonder's amazing 1970s albums "starting with Music > of My Mind and continuing through Talking Book, Innervisions, > Fulfillingness' First Finale and Jungle Fever; all projects which listed > Margouleff and Cecil as associate producers, engineers and programmers" ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band ) Two > musicians and technicians who had an huge hand in shaping Stevie's sound > of this era - and who are little recognized for their roles. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:03:05 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc Thanks for this post. Cecil and Margouleff deserve huge credit for those albums and indeed Stevie Wonders sudden synthesizer mastery, beginning in 1971, when the instrument was very new and hard to grasp, even IF you had eyesight to see the controls. The weaving monophonic violin lines he laid down on Superwomans middle section still stand as some of the most beautiful use of synthesizers ever. > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Allison Crowe Music wrote: > > Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil were elemental and instrumental to the creation of Stevie Wonder's amazing 1970s albums "starting with Music of My Mind and continuing through Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Jungle Fever; all projects which listed Margouleff and Cecil as associate producers, engineers and programmers" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band ) Two musicians and technicians who had an huge hand in shaping Stevie's sound of this era - and who are little recognized for their roles. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 12:00:48 -0700 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure I'm glad you commented on Stevie Wonder's wonderful work. I've posted here before about the way I regard artists by the breadth of their talents. For example La Mitchell has superb talents in song writing, singing, instrumental artistry with bonus points for playing many instrument very well, band arrangements, performance capabilities, cover art, and record producing. That is at least seven deep talents that have so endeared her to us, and, set the bar very high for comparisons to other artists. There are very few artists in that stratosphere of many refined talents. Stevie Wonder is one of them who would equal or surpass Joni. Just to be clear, this is not a contest or even a judgement between artists, but more a level of achievement by every artist towards some artistic ideal of perfection. I don't believe you can really rank artists against one another in the emotional sense where we are "moved" by music both complex and stunningly simple, both refined and base. Mozart, Bach and Beethoven might be thought of as closer to that ideal, as their artistry has achieved timelessness, and have inspired many generations of artists and music lovers with their genius. I'd say they have equal talents in those categories, excepting cover art, and Stevie is by far the better instrumentalist, arranger, and record producer as he produced his own records exceedingly well from the beginning, when he got artistic control from Barry Gordy and Motown. Stevie formed his own label at the age of 21. He played most of the instruments on his first three albums on his Tamla label. He was even sought after by keyboard manufactures for beta-testing their new products, because if Stevie liked it, it was ready for production. It was Stevie who brought Motown along to a social awareness, along with Marvin Gaye, where the songwriting came to address the urgent issues of the day, equality, anti-war, poverty, Black Power, and peace amongst us all. His talents really know no bounds. This man is a musical genius if there ever was one. Who else do you think possess similar degrees of talent? The Bonneville NP: Love' in Need of Love Today Bob wrote: NP: Stevie Wonder, "Same Old Story" (Been playing Stevie all day today due to Victor's Facebook posts...what a career he has had. I have gone all the way back to the "Little Stevie Wonder" stuff, through those incredible 70's releases and his latest work as well, and barely scanned the surface of his 50+ years of recording. A Wonder to be sure) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 15:29:52 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Black Crow guitar Kimberly, I always use heavy gauge strings (13-56) to play Joni songs in her tunings, and if needed I raise the action a bit at the truss rod. Also tune by ear playing fretted notes as well as a tuner; when the tension is slack the tuner alone will mislead you. Have a great gig. Dave > On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Laurent Olszer wrote: > > Question: Does anyone know what Joni's guitar rig was for "Black Crow?" We > can't seem to come up with a guitar that can hold onto the low Bb without > going all flappy and out of tune. > > > > Hi Kimberly, > > No idea about Joni's rig. I use a Telecaster for that song and it works well > with the low tuning. Good luck with the gig > > > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:38:15 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Stevie Wonder, A Wonder For Sure njc Am 08.12.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Dave Blackburn: > You can learn more about these electronic music pioneers, and their > groundbreaking creation TONTO at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto%27s_Expanding_Head_Band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzG2vGwSYic video description: "Malcolm Cecil - one half of TONTO's Expanding Head Band - shows you around The Original New Timbral Orchestra. Called TONTO for short, this super synthesiser was used on Stevie Wonder's classic albums from the early 1970s, namely Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions and Fulfillingness' First Finale." moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 16:18:52 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Black Lives Matter, njc I went to London to see the musical 'The Scottsboro Boys' the other day and,afterwards, felt like apologising to every black person I saw. I felt so helpless and ashamed, but realised all I can do is to continue to keep challenging racism in my everyday life. All this happening at the moment does make you think nothing much has changed for black people, doesn't it? In my local community, the most obvious racism these days is towards travellers who can't do anything right at all, though I haven't yetheard of any being strangled or shot. Anita > On 6 Dec 2014, at 12:27, anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > > And yet, I think we might be reaching a tipping point. Thousands are > taking to the streets in support of black people. On Boston Common there > were thousands of black, white, Hispanic, and Asian people gathered to > support each other. To say "Enough!" > > For me, race is not an issue. It's THE issue. And always has been. If I > had grown up somewhere else, I might have been naively sheltered. I > think that many white middle and upper class people are ignorant in the > true sense of the word - they just don't know and can't imagine the > world is so grossly unfair for minorities. But the Eric Garner video > shows the absolute inequality that is so blatant in our society. And I > agree with Chris Rock when he said that it's not that black people have > progressed; it's white people who have had their eyes opened. Let's keep > opening eyes and hearts. > > lots of love, > > Anne > >> On 2014-12-05 23:28, Lori Renee Fye wrote: >> >> It's all so disturbing. I am absolutely embarrassed to be an American >> living in a "Christian" country. >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu >> wrote: >> Since he can't post for himself, here are Eric Garner's last words: I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> I can't breathe.> Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 17:11:58 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: THE RECORD Title: THE RECORD Publication: US Weekly Date: 2014.12.15 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2882 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 11:24:00 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: the onstage guitar quandary Certainly Joni had an excellent ear in those days to be able to tell a story onstage and accurately re-tune her axe at the same time. And of course, as she became more successful, she had several acoustics on stage, pretuned. Out of curiousity, what were the guitars that broke? Have a great gig~ RR >> My sun currently rises and sets in the land of Joni. I am preparing for a >> concert of all Joni Mitchell compositions, Dec. 7th @ Soho, Santa >> Barbara, >> CA. and hope that all of you within range can attend. >> Her tunings are >> so magical but a bit of a nightmare from a guitarists >> perspective. I have managed to break two brand new guitars with >> computerized >> tuning systems in an effort to program them to only 6 of 8 the tunings >> that >> I am using in the show. I wondering how >> the heck Joni managed this...alone...in a coffee house... with no tech. >> Kimberly Ford ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1567 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------