From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1537 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 3 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1537 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1491 [Jeff Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:31:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1491 B I'm going to make note of this book Mark it sounds interesting and definitely describes Joni. I'm getting tangled up in Joni posts, but someone sent a link to Joni's I Don't Know Where I Stand and hearing that guitar reminded me of Joni saying that that particular guitar was sold to her from a soldier who had been in Vietnam and that schrapnel hit it. I believe she recorded her first six albums with this particular Martin guitar, which to me has the most complex, extraordinary qualities. I always think of it as the guitar equivalent of a Stradivarious violin. Apparently while she was hanging in the Canyon all those people had the best guitars available and hers still stood out. Add to that her exotic tunings and flawless playing and it becomes mesmerizing. Its another of those serendipitous, synchronistic events that was going on in her life at that early period. Perhaps she'll tell more about it in Vignettes. I also really like how Streisand and Marvin Hamlisch do that song. It lends itself to piano particularly well. Jeff On Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:01 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL DigestB B B Saturday, November 29 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1491 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- B Re: Joni in VultureB B B B B B B B B B ["Mark" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:53:08 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joni in Vulture I didn't see the particular comment so I am just making inferences here from what Mary wrote.B I have been reading a book called 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell.B It is all about how extraordinarily successful people have usually been given more than genius or exceptional ability of some kind to get to where they are.B At one point he says that Bill Gates was born at the right time in history to be able to utilize his genius for computer programming and technology to get to where he is now.B The advances in computer technology were ripe for the development of the personal computer, the internet and all the rest when Gates began to put his ability to work. He was also born into a family that had the means to send him to Seattle's prestigious Lakeside School and connections with the University of Washington gave him and Paul Allen access to a computer that had the ability to share programming time.B So they were able to practice their programming skills, spending hours at the UW, totally immersed in their obsession. I can see the parallel.B Joni came along when cultural shifts had created an environment that was ready to embrace her persona and music.B She had put in all of that time playing the coffee houses and working those circuits to practice her art so that by the time she recorded 'Song To a Seagull' she already had a considerable catalog of songs and had become an accomplished guitarist and singer.B She landed in Laurel Canyon with a record contract. Later, Russ Kunkel suggested she should use jazz musicians to play her unconventional music.B Someone told her about the L.A. Express.B When she was looking for a bass player to give her the sounds she wanted, someone told her about Jaco.B She was in the right place to interact with people who would point her toward the musical elements she needed.B She had the genius, but had she been born ten years earlier, or never had the chance to develop it, and if events had not lined up in a certain way, that genius might never have blossomed or have been discovered. Mark in Seattle - - -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Kent Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:54 PM To: Mary Cc: jmdl Subject: Re: Joni in Vulture Mary, were they comparing Joni to the role Gertrude Stein had in 1920's Paris?B I have seen that comparison before a number of years ago. Interesting, but I think Mama Cass would better fit the comparison.B Gerry Sent from my iPad > On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Mary wrote: > > Joni on TS being squelched from that movie. Ouch, some of the comments are > quite harsh. Joni IS a genius, but we forget, some....not many.....some > people > don't care for her.B I thought it was interesting just to read some other > point of views. I like the long comment that likens Joni's life times in > the > epicenter of LA like being in Paris during the 20's - being in the right > place > at the right time & being a part of it all, and contributing to great > musical > history. The commenter said it better. > > http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/joni-mitchell-doesnt-want-tswift-to-play-her.h > tml?mid=rss?mid=vulturelatest > >B B GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE MB Down a gravel road, where the barb wire > meets the sky.B B B MARY M. MORRIS - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1491 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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