From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1461 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1461 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- 18th variation from Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini [ingrid lochrenberg <] Joni disses Looking Glass song "Brandi" [Jeff Clark ] Re: Love has many faces ["Mark" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 [Jeff Clark ] Leaked: New artwork/poster for the LHMF box-set! [Moni Kellermann Subject: 18th variation from Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini http://youtu.be/bKZbvluHcNo This is what Rachmaninovs 18th Variation form a Theme on Paganini should rather sound like than what I posted a while back. This is the piece that mesmerised Joni Mitchell, and revealed what power music can have. It is exhilirating and takes up only 2min 41 seconds.Ingrid ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Joni disses Looking Glass song "Brandi" And also Seals and Crofts "Summer Breaze" and says the vocal harmonizing on Tony Orlando and Dawns "Knock Three Times"B is insipid. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:31:16 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: lyrics to shine I've been meaning to write and say how much I enjoyed this beautiful piece of writing, Ingrid. It reminds me of some of Virginia Woolf's writing. The beautiful descriptions of how thoughts flow in and out of each other. Thank you for sharing it. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: ingrid lochrenberg Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:03 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: lyrics to shine Imagine walking on a beach, astonished at the light colouring the grains of sand. The sea pushing half-moons of water up onto the beach.....feeling the wind, your isolation, having seagulls flying overhead...seeing them turn their heads to look at you, them catching one's eye.........feeling seen, and being overwhelmed at their freedom to fly on. Coming across shapes and colours on the beach..... seeing the play of light as the water recedes....the slant of the sand......captivated by the bubbles on the surface...wondering about the eye contact with the seagull. ...feeling despair and dreams starting to intermingle as emerse yoursself into the timelessness of the beach. Then imagine being there with someone who launches into a scientific and historical description of each shell, giving one their latin name, describing their lifecycles, telling one who named them......which university classified them into which category....in which era....as you walk they tell you that gravity is responsible for the tides washing in. You're happy that Kepler was denounced as a mystic. But the explanation goes on: the history of universities.....the wonders of progress and knowledge, the necessity to have work ethic and contribute ....time to go back and face the endless lectures amid the ambitious students, knuckling down, noses in their books....getting drunk at night....inconsistent value systems....akward social occasions, the pretentiousness that constitutes the communication between students, the laughter that lacks conviction because one knows real magic has been left behind. But through it all, the dedication to doing the work that will get you through. All the chaos gets resolved into a chosen career. Somehow ambitions have been formulated.....law, medicine, computer programmers.....the ends which makes eveything make sense.....the tedium of the alternative, working away at a job where a cigarette break may bring meaning to your life. The incomprehension of what a surgeon is actually doing with his intelligence...the procedures, the hospital environment, the ruthlessness all around. CEO's and their goals.....selling more potato chips, the distribution networks, the margins, the commodity cycles that get you down....the secretaries that hold all the chaos together. The disciplines with their conflicting approaches to the world leaving one feeling so confused... The sundays that leave the entire working world experiencing the blues.....the slow progress towards demise, the depressions that are avoided.The clever monetary system designed by the intelligent that absolve the intelligent from any work but gambling on futures or on others. The astronomers and the astrophysicists and the particle physicists that may think knowledge will lead to a final explanation. The herbalists and the playwrights and the zoologists and the chefs and finally, the sisters of mercy. A madman ditches all this...all the rational scientific explanations of his conception and his purpose that are as vacuous as the word gravity....the madman relishes the wonderful inexplicable action-at-a-distance because it confuses everyone else until they settle on the word gravity...but that is just an inner delight. The madman ditches all sentence structure if it means freedom from being assailed by explanation after explanation that merely serves to explain away everything. If the madman drinks coffee he is delighted and astonished that it was offered to him when he was just thinking about it. No amount of economic, historic, geographic, agricultural information will pursuade him that this taste of coffee isn't miraculous. Neither does he want to hear a word about it ...he is savoring his coffee and he knows that every single explanation merely describes the passage of time..The coffee may as well have been created just for him. In fact it came out of a bottle and water was added and such was the creation of it.... The madman won't be lamenting about who grows the coffee where and who works at it and who doesn't get paid enough, the madman just knows it as a gift and as he knows he certainly won't be working for it - he'd rather be idle , marvelling at the sun shining down on him, the stars that would rather not be named, in constellations of their own choice. The color of the flowers.....emanating from a brown earth....there will be no explanation that will take away his astonishment. Explanations stand between the profound, grand, simplicity of creation and the incredulous madman. They are neither here nor there. It is a bigger contribution to stand in absolute awe of creation,...to marvel at the words escaping from ones'mouth...everything striking one as revelatory.....his mad laughter that sometimes accompanies his perceptions about the paradoxical world being explained alarms those whose neural circuits can't handle it. He is too intense, his observations are too obviouss, things are being described in a way that is rendering everything too absurd. He has excess dopamine and he will be brought into line. If he has the imagination to think his enemies should contemplate posioning him he is paranoid. No matter, the psychiatrists will take over. The simplicity of his life, no career, no money, no clothes, no status, no choice is nothing compared to the gift of experiencing onesself and the universe first-hand......every explanation merely treads water with the process it is explaining...it will change with the fashions and the paradigms of the day......at every change which miraculusly accompanies the flow of time the madman will be overcome with astonishment . He might just as well start with the word, (coffee), and end with the taste of it in his mouth. Nothing can explain away ones' existence and nothing can explain away the universe.......so the madman is left coping with it, in his poverty..Sometimes he is grandiose and he thinks he is Joni Mitchells daughter. Sometimes he is coherent enough to communicate again. Anyway, I think that in Shine Joni Mitchell is alluding to the madmen's simplistic universe as being an attempt to bring some sanity back to the world, but that it mostly leaves one incoherent. So she says, I suppose in comfort but maybe also in hope, let your little lights shine..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:33:31 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Love has many faces It is so good to hear from you, Oddmund, and you have convinced more than ever that I have to buy this box set. Thank you and please let us hear from you more often. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Oddmund Kaarevik Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:57 AM To: joni@smoe.org ; Anita G Subject: Love has many faces Last night - - listening to - I think CD number 2 of "Love has many faces" I found myself crying at the track "Tax free." It came as a huge surprise. It never touched me in such a way before. Maybe I was tired after a hectic day at work. Or maybe it was something else. Joni has worked a great deal with these four acts of love or the lack of it, as she says. And just before "Taxfree" she has placed "Blue." Something I never in my wildest fantasy could do. So different - but yet - they resemble on some of the same theme. Something lost. Something gone away. And something sad. This pastor or what screaming out messages of hate. I realize now - I will never meet Joni Mitchell. It was a dream for me many years ago. But - listening to this new masterpiece. Because it I find it highly ingtriguing listening to her revisit of a long career - well it is my way of meeting her. She even dropped by a hand-written letter in the box set. I love to see Joni's own hand-writing. Because the list of disc two had been changed - and what said on the box set is wrong. In a way understand these four acts as a dialogue directly with me, the fan. What a great gift to recieve. I feel blessed - and happy to see her still active. Her paintings for the box set some of the nicest I've seen. And her music - defianetely songs from a genius. I hope the Alberta Ballet will make a Ball out of it! Dear Anita. I hope you do your paper. And that it will be accepted. Lots of love, Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:17:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 B Well I think she just did it the old fashioned way, by twidling the knobs on the guitar. Certainly after she became famous and was with CSN&Y she had a guitar tech and more than one guitar, but in the early coffee house, second-fret days she just did it herself. It is amazing. But remember, she was doing two and three sets every night, so anything you do so much soon becomes second nature. On an early Philadelphia radio broadcast she goes from Sisotowbell Lane tuning, CGDFCE to The Gallery tuning, C#F#C#F#A#C# in seconds. You can tell she's using the same guitar and tuning it. What really amazes me is when she introduces her first piano songs like Rainy Night House, and how complicated they sound on top of all the guitar songs. She's a genius!Jeff On Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:04 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL DigestB B B Thursday, November 27 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1459 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- B RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457B B B B B B ["kimberly" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:25:02 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 My sun currently rises and sets in the land of Joni. I am preparing for a concert of all Joni Mitchell compositions, Dec. 7th @ Soho, Santa Barbara, CA.B and hope that all of you within range can attend. I've had wonderful support for this effort so far and many from this site, so thank you to those who have already responded. I wanted to share some of the unanticipated challenges of this project from the standpoint of the musician. This has both mystified me and also garnered increased respect for Joni's work. Her tunings are so magical but a bit of a nightmare from a guitarists perspective. I have managed to break two brand new guitars with computerized tuning systems in an effort to program them to only 6 of 8 the tunings that I am using in the show. I'll probably end up with two guitars on stage and a competent guitar tech just off stage grabbing them from me and retuning them to me between songs. I'm doing this as a trade with Jensen's guitar, our local music store.B I'm only playing on every third song. I wondering how the heck Joni managed this...alone...in a coffee house... with no tech. Maybe audiences were more tolerant of her tuning time back then. Maybe she got famous so quickly into her career that she had a constant tech and numerous guitars after those long awkward coffee house gigs. Maybe I'm just being humbled, ha! Thoughts? Kimberly FordB B B B B B - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 JMDL DigestB B B Wednesday, November 26 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1457 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - - -------- B Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson?B NO Justice!B [Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson?B NO Justice! > I reiterate, what does any of this have to do with the Joni Mitchell > discussion list???? > > Sent from my iPad Dear Sent from my iPad, as you probably know, there are four different versions of this mailing list, so the question may be answered as "everything" or "nothing", depending on the list version you signed up to. A discussion of a non-Joni topic should have the NJC (No Joni Content) in the subject line. In this case someone apparently forgot it and then people simply hit the reply button. I trust my fellow listers here that this happens without the intent of disturbing the peace of the Joni-only world, so I believe we can manage and simply delete such a message. moni k. - - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 ****************************** - - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - - ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 20:08:37 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Leaked: New artwork/poster for the LHMF box-set! Leaked: http://i.imgur.com/9VmpJ4s.jpg I like her new haircut! Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1461 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------