From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1460 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 27 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1460 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Love has many faces [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: the onstage guitar quandary [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Leaked: New artwork/poster for the LHMF box-set! [Anita Gabrielle Subject: Love has many faces Last night - - listening to - I think CD number 2 of "Love has many faces" I found myself crying at the track "Tax free." It came as a huge surprise. It never touched me in such a way before. Maybe I was tired after a hectic day at work. Or maybe it was something else. Joni has worked a great deal with these four acts of love or the lack of it, as she says. And just before "Taxfree" she has placed "Blue." Something I never in my wildest fantasy could do. So different - but yet - they resemble on some of the same theme. Something lost. Something gone away. And something sad. This pastor or what screaming out messages of hate. I realize now - I will never meet Joni Mitchell. It was a dream for me many years ago. But - listening to this new masterpiece. Because it I find it highly ingtriguing listening to her revisit of a long career - well it is my way of meeting her. She even dropped by a hand-written letter in the box set. I love to see Joni's own hand-writing. Because the list of disc two had been changed - and what said on the box set is wrong. In a way understand these four acts as a dialogue directly with me, the fan. What a great gift to recieve. I feel blessed - and happy to see her still active. Her paintings for the box set some of the nicest I've seen. And her music - defianetely songs from a genius. I hope the Alberta Ballet will make a Ball out of it! Dear Anita. I hope you do your paper. And that it will be accepted. Lots of love, Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:13:06 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 > Maybe she > got famous so quickly into her career that she had a constant tech and > numerous guitars after those long awkward coffee house gigs. Maybe I'm just > being humbled, ha! > Thoughts? Hi Kimberly Back in 1970, she talked and talked between songs. It took ages to retune, but the stories were a delight. She retuned herself and stopped when the tuning was out. Later, she had Joel Bernstein setting up her guitars and used ten to hold her turnings (Hejira era) later still she had her synth guitar, the VG8. Nonetheless, every guitarist on the list who plays Joni probably feels humbled. That's what genius does! Good luck with your wonderful gig, Anita > Kimberly Ford > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:00 AM > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 26 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1457 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson? NO Justice! [Moni Kellermann > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:34:05 +0100 > From: Moni Kellermann > Subject: Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson? NO Justice! > >> I reiterate, what does any of this have to do with the Joni Mitchell >> discussion list???? >> >> Sent from my iPad > > > Dear Sent from my iPad, > > as you probably know, there are four different versions of this mailing > list, so the question may be answered as "everything" or "nothing", > depending on the list version you signed up to. > > A discussion of a non-Joni topic should have the NJC (No Joni Content) > in the subject line. In this case someone apparently forgot it and then > people simply hit the reply button. I trust my fellow listers here that > this happens without the intent of disturbing the peace of the Joni-only > world, so I believe we can manage and simply delete such a message. > > > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:43:36 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: the onstage guitar quandary Guitarsenal I think you called it, Dave. And I also seem to recall the advice you gave about playing Black Crow with its Bb on the bottom was to use a washing line instead of a string! Kimberley, your post also made me think about those years and years in the 60s and early 70s that Joni gigged, all over the place, even up the road from me in Leicester, UK, pretty much on her own with her guitar or two. No electronic tuners, just her ears and a heap of entertaining stories whilst endlessly winding those tuning pegs. Certainly paid her dues! You say that maybe audiences were more tolerant back then - but she was just mesmerising with her in between chat. You just felt that you were in her house and she was telling you about stuff. Brilliant. Anita > On 27 Nov 2014, at 15:11, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Hi Kimberly, > > I know exactly what you are facing, with your upcoming show and guitar issues, having been learning and performing Joni music for the last nine years with my band Mutts of the Planet. It has been a process of discovery on how best to tackle the logistics. > > I ended up with a quiver of guitars that live in their various tunings for months with their string gauges chosen specifically for the tuning. The neck and top tension have plenty of time to settle in and the tunings donbt drift. > > Can you list the songs you are playing? Maybe some tuning groupings can be found. > > cheers > Dave > > > > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:25 AM, kimberly wrote: >> >> My sun currently rises and sets in the land of Joni. I am preparing for a >> concert of all Joni Mitchell compositions, Dec. 7th @ Soho, Santa Barbara, >> CA. and hope that all of you within range can attend. I've had wonderful >> support for this effort so far and many from this site, so thank you to >> those who have already responded. I wanted to share some of the >> unanticipated challenges of this project from the standpoint of the >> musician. This has both mystified me and also garnered increased respect for >> Joni's work. >> >> Her tunings are so magical but a bit of a nightmare from a guitarists >> perspective. I have managed to break two brand new guitars with computerized >> tuning systems in an effort to program them to only 6 of 8 the tunings that >> I am using in the show. I'll probably end up with two guitars on stage and a >> competent guitar tech just off stage grabbing them from me and retuning them >> to me between songs. I'm doing this as a trade with Jensen's guitar, our >> local music store. I'm only playing on every third song. I wondering how >> the heck Joni managed this...alone...in a coffee house... with no tech. >> Maybe audiences were more tolerant of her tuning time back then. Maybe she >> got famous so quickly into her career that she had a constant tech and >> numerous guitars after those long awkward coffee house gigs. Maybe I'm just >> being humbled, ha! >> Thoughts? >> Kimberly Ford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 OR, you could just do "A Horse With NoB Name", there's only two chords in the whole song :)B On Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:17 AM, Jeff Clark wrote: B Well I think she just did it the old fashioned way, by twidling the knobs on the guitar. Certainly after she became famous and was with CSN&Y she had a guitar tech and more than one guitar, but in the early coffee house, second-fret days she just did it herself. It is amazing. But remember, she was doing two and three sets every night, so anything you do so much soon becomes second nature. On an early Philadelphia radio broadcast she goes from Sisotowbell Lane tuning, CGDFCE to The Gallery tuning, C#F#C#F#A#C# in seconds. You can tell she's using the same guitar and tuning it. What really amazes me is when she introduces her first piano songs like Rainy Night House, and how complicated they sound on top of all the guitar songs. She's a genius!Jeff On Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:04 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL DigestB B B Thursday, November 27 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1459 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- B RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457B B B B B B ["kimberly" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:25:02 -0800 From: "kimberly" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 My sun currently rises and sets in the land of Joni. I am preparing for a concert of all Joni Mitchell compositions, Dec. 7th @ Soho, Santa Barbara, CA.B and hope that all of you within range can attend. I've had wonderful support for this effort so far and many from this site, so thank you to those who have already responded. I wanted to share some of the unanticipated challenges of this project from the standpoint of the musician. This has both mystified me and also garnered increased respect for Joni's work. Her tunings are so magical but a bit of a nightmare from a guitarists perspective. I have managed to break two brand new guitars with computerized tuning systems in an effort to program them to only 6 of 8 the tunings that I am using in the show. I'll probably end up with two guitars on stage and a competent guitar tech just off stage grabbing them from me and retuning them to me between songs. I'm doing this as a trade with Jensen's guitar, our local music store.B I'm only playing on every third song. I wondering how the heck Joni managed this...alone...in a coffee house... with no tech. Maybe audiences were more tolerant of her tuning time back then. Maybe she got famous so quickly into her career that she had a constant tech and numerous guitars after those long awkward coffee house gigs. Maybe I'm just being humbled, ha! Thoughts? Kimberly FordB B B B B B - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:00 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 JMDL DigestB B B Wednesday, November 26 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1457 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - - -------- B Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson?B NO Justice!B [Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: NO Indictment In Ferguson?B NO Justice! > I reiterate, what does any of this have to do with the Joni Mitchell > discussion list???? > > Sent from my iPad Dear Sent from my iPad, as you probably know, there are four different versions of this mailing list, so the question may be answered as "everything" or "nothing", depending on the list version you signed up to. A discussion of a non-Joni topic should have the NJC (No Joni Content) in the subject line. In this case someone apparently forgot it and then people simply hit the reply button. I trust my fellow listers here that this happens without the intent of disturbing the peace of the Joni-only world, so I believe we can manage and simply delete such a message. moni k. - - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1457 ****************************** - - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - - ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1459 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 20:37:13 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Leaked: New artwork/poster for the LHMF box-set! Wow, Moni, how do you find this stuff? This is SO cool! I forgot it's Thanksgiving in the US. Like Michael, I'd like to wish you all the very,very best to you all on this special day for you. Though not an unusual day here, I am joining you by giving thanks for my blessings and to be part of JMDL. This is a great present from Moni on Thanksgiving Day, at least in my book! Anita xx > On 27 Nov 2014, at 19:08, Moni Kellermann wrote: > > Leaked: http://i.imgur.com/9VmpJ4s.jpg > > I like her new haircut! > > Enjoy! > > moni k. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1460 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------