From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1389 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, November 10 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1389 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Liner notes ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: Dawntreader - was Cameron Crowe honors Joni ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Next (?) Jonifest [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:32:03 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Liner notes One of the reasons I pre-ordered this box set was for the liner notes; also the paintings and the CDs (which I will listen to in my car). My car is really the only time I listen to CDs, otherwise I'm on Itunes in the house. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:36 PM To: Joni List Subject: Liner notes Joniphiles- Joni has written about 9500 words for the liner notes to the new release. Some very interesting stories and insights contained therein. Here is her Iron Eyes Cody story: Like a filmmaker, I cast people in my songs. I cast Billy Idol as the bully in DANCING CLOWN. I cast Tom Petty as the guy he picks on - the "pushbutton window." I cast Willie Nelson as the desert rat in COOL WATER - Rod Steiger as the evangelist in TAX FREE. I cast Iron Eyes Cody as the "grandfather" in I AM LAKOTA. Let me tell you how Iron Eyes came to be on the record. There was a show of Indian artifacts at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium - near where I was recording. We (Mike Shipley, Larry Klein and I) were working on I AM LAKOTA. It was almost finished but I felt like it was lacking something. "Let's take a break," I said. "I want to go to that show at the Civic. I won't be long." It was a little after 5:00. The doors had just opened. "Joan, Joan," Klein said. "This isn't like you - leaving in the middle of a session." I said, "Well, we're not doing anything important - you can spare me for an hour. They've got some rare old stuff over there. Federico told me. Hummingbird baskets, for instance - things you never get a chance to see!" Klein didn't like it. "Come on," I said, "Take a little break." The track was running. Suddenly, the machine seized up. "Oh," I said grinning. "Downtime. Call in the tech! I'll be back in an hour." As I came through the doors I was met by a film crew. "Why are you here?" said a cyclops - a women behind a lens. "To see the show," I said. "I only have an hour." I tried to shake her, but she stuck to me like a paparazzi. "Have you met Iron Eyes Cody? she pestered. "Who's he?" "You don't know Iron Eyes? Cry Indian?" "Oh, the ecology commercial." "Would you like to meet him?" "I guess so, but I don't have much time." She disappeared. I looked at some baskets. I looked at some pots. A little while later she returned with old Iron Eyes. He was wearing a grey wig - long grey braids. It was tied on under his chin with a black string. It was tied in a bow like a bonnet. "A bald Indian?" I thought, "I never saw a bald Indian before." Years later, I was informed by a Lakota Sioux that Iron eyes was a Sicilian. We shook hands. "Do you know any Indian songs?" I asked him. "Sure," he said, and performer that he was, he tipped back his head and sang the little song that Lakota opens with. "What are you doing right now?" I asked him. "Well, I was supposed to go to dinner with some people . . . ." "Could you come with me to a recording studio - it's near here. Could you put that down on tape?" "You want me to overdub?" he said. That made me laugh. "Yes," I said, "Exactly!" "O.K.," he said. So I came back to the studio with three Indians (well, two Mazatecs and a Sicilian) and a film crew. I was half an hour late, but the machine was still frozen. We sat and waited. When it was finally fixed I played the track for Iron Eyes who said, when it was over, "Oh - it's got the haunting. I think you're turning Indian." Into the studio he went. He "overdubbed" like the pro he was. It was just what the piece needed. We were relaxing now. The track was finished. Iron Eyes was telling John Wayne stories - tales of how John could hold his liquor. Suddenly it began to thunder and rain - hard. Iron Eyes and I went out on the back steps to watch it come down. As we watched, a ball o fire appeared on the lines leading into the studio. It was sliding towards us. I ran inside and told the boys about it. They pulled the tape off the heads in case the lightening sent the machine into record. I didn't see it hit but it made the lights flicker. No damage was done and the storm moved on. It only struck Santa Monica - nowhere else in L.A. Strange. Beautiful. Ball lightening. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:11:24 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Dawntreader - was Cameron Crowe honors Joni Anita, While I was in Toronto this weekend, Pat Hillis played a beautiful rendition of Dawntreader, and it's not so much that Joni "invented chords" but the combination of sounds in that song is just breathtaking. What a gorgeous composition. Pat did a great job. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Anita Gabrielle Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:05 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Les Irvin; Joni List Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Yeah - tell that to Debussy. However, I can always remember my first hearing of the Dawntreader when everyone else (well pop and folk that I seemed to hear) seemed to be playing standard C,G and D. It did sound like she had invented new guitar chords. I marvel to this day (as y'all know), Anita. > On 5 Nov 2014, at 13:17, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > This was an enjoyable read, although I always bristle when I read > someone saying that Joni invented a bunch of chords. > > Bob > > NP: Barnaby Bright, "Remember When" > > > > From: Les Irvin > To: Joni List , > Date: 11/04/2014 11:29 PM > Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell > / > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:24:50 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Next (?) Jonifest "Hearing that everything's warmer there"...(in South Carolina in September) Great to hear - the response has been very positive - I figured the only way I'd get my procrastinating rear in gear was to announce it and start working on it! Haven't mentioned it on Facebook yet so I'll do that soon. Bob NP: The Clash, "London Calling" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:14:48 -0800 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Dawntreader - was Cameron Crowe honors Joni I think it's that she uses a lot of sus chords, and 6-, 7-, 9- combinations which are probably a bit more jazzy and/or bluesy, so they're out of the usual three-chord pop-song realm. Add to that her alternate tunings, which produce some nice open drone-y sounds and just the way she puts all of that together creates something that isn't a new invention but that is different from the usual and so sounds unique and new. ________________________________ From: Susan E. McNamara To: Anita Gabrielle ; "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" Cc: Les Irvin ; Joni List Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Dawntreader - was Cameron Crowe honors Joni Anita, While I was in Toronto this weekend, Pat Hillis played a beautiful rendition of Dawntreader, and it's not so much that Joni "invented chords" but the combination of sounds in that song is just breathtaking. What a gorgeous composition. Pat did a great job. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Anita Gabrielle Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 9:05 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Les Irvin; Joni List Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Yeah - tell that to Debussy. However, I can always remember my first hearing of the Dawntreader when everyone else (well pop and folk that I seemed to hear) seemed to be playing standard C,G and D. It did sound like she had invented new guitar chords. I marvel to this day (as y'all know), Anita. > On 5 Nov 2014, at 13:17, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > This was an enjoyable read, although I always bristle when I read > someone saying that Joni invented a bunch of chords. > > Bob > > NP: Barnaby Bright, "Remember When" > > > > From: Les Irvin > To: Joni List , > Date: 11/04/2014 11:29 PM > Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell > / > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender > and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 10:15:03 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: At The Hammer Shari, thank you very much for this report of your time at the Hammer. Seems like you have had an incredible time and have experienced Joni's kindly presence first hand. What a wonderful gift! Love Anita > On 8 Nov 2014, at 19:44, Shari wrote: > > I am filled with so much pride that I got to be in the same room with her, much less on her birthday and to join in the birthday song chorus. It was sung so tenderly as if we were all a little embarrassed about our singing voice. Initially, I had little hope of being able to enter the small box that screened Fiddle and the Drum but, as a new member of The Hammer museum, they let me in with little trouble and I got front row seating! Malka was in there, circulating the room and being very pleasant and the fans around me were all very sweet and interacting with everyone around. I first saw Joni's feet under the curtain when she was being introduced. I saw those boots that you mentioned and I just knew those little boots were her feet. And how my posture straightened right up when she walked out. I felt the urge to run up to her and tell her everything, as if she were there just to hang out with me, but I calmed myself down and relaxed back into the seat like everyone else. The! > ballet was enjoyable to watch. That was the first time I'd heard some of those songs & the visualization of her songs is tremendous.. with moments of humor. My very favorite interpretation was when the dancers were flitting about with the blown up ball shaped like the earth. The carelessness that we employ each day as far as the earth is concerned. That was a beautiful way to express this sadness. > > I was extremely exhausted by the time it was all over I probably missed my opp to talk with her. She was in a top mood and seemed so approachable. She even paused to say 'what?' whenever anyone yelled something from the audience. But I was tired way way down after driving here all day. Hoping there are more events like this. I am still so grateful for the chance to see and hear her in the here and now. > > I wish Joni would take on a young artist singer songwriter and help shape their voice. I wonder if she's ever considered it. > > Just want to say thank you to this group for letting me know about this event! > > Lots and lots of Joni, > Shari > > > PS I want to remark! Joni's humility was incredible to observe. I watched her ego switch from, hey it's just us humans here talking, to 'oh. right. you adore me!' She seemed genuinely surprised when she would recall that she was a celebrity and very very loved. > > >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:15, "Laura O." wrote: >> >> Leslie & Shari, >> >> How exciting you both were able to attend!! Did they give out >> tickets? Do you have ticket stubs of the event? >> >> Did you both get pieces of cake? >> >> Joni's biker-style shoes looked very cool! Anyone know the brand? >> >> It was nice to see Jean *Grand*-MaC.tre & Joni together in the Hammer >> Museum facebook photos .... and even that Joni acknowledged in her Q&A >> session that her backing out of the project was a >> disapointment/hardship for the troupe. >> >> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:06:47 +0100 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest Sounds great Bob. I hope I am not touring On Nov 5, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Laura, I'm definitely planning on having a Jonifest in Greenville, SC over Labor Day weekend 2015 (September 3-7). I think the area will lend itself well to the format established by Ashara, Mikey, Dave and others. Schedule looking to be as follows: Thursday, September 3 arrival and informal open-mike playing (can be done at nearby Cork and Tap or if I secure a "compound" like we had at the last New Orleans fest) Friday & Saturday activities - there's a LOT of nearby hiking and outdoors opportunities, there are several museums and other sightseeing things of interest, Falls Park downtown has a myriad of locations to see and do, open to other suggestions as well. Friday night - would ideally like to have performances by Dave & Robin and Laurie if any or both is possible. Performance space - The Bohemian, that features a nice stage/sound system attached to a full restaurant bar with all options of food and drink. Saturday night - would love to have a potpourri of local musicians do a Joni tribute ala what Mike's done at The Howling Wolf. I've got some contacts and know folks who have more. Would love to have this event at the venue that USED to be the Handlebar and will be reopening soon. Sunday would be open for whatever; some folks will be heading home, whatever else people want to see and do in the area. That's about what I've put together so far. Definitely open to suggestions! I feel like it's time for me to pay back to the folks who have hosted in the past and Upstate SC does have a lot to offer. Bob NP: Against Me, "F*Ckymylife666" From: Laura Stanley To: "joni@smoe.org" , Les Irvin , Date: 11/05/2014 08:54 AM Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Thanks Les! That was an awesome read! I loved it! I didn't know Joni composed by ear and always wondered about that. I also like what was said about honesty and learning to feel. Definitely those are two things I get from Joni's work too, It is good to see Joni with her hair down. I think she's incredibly beautiful with it up or down. So, what's the buzz for the next Jonifest? Love, Laura From: Les Irvin Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell/ Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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