From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1373 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1373 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Next (?) Jonifest [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Next (?) Jonifest [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Liner notes [Les Irvin ] Re: Next (?) Jonifest [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Next (?) Jonifest [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Next (?) Jonifest NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] America Lost [simon@icu.com] Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni [Laura Stanley ] Hejira live is now downloadable [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Liner notes [Anita G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:37:48 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Next (?) Jonifest Laura, I'm definitely planning on having a Jonifest in Greenville, SC over Labor Day weekend 2015 (September 3-7). I think the area will lend itself well to the format established by Ashara, Mikey, Dave and others. Schedule looking to be as follows: Thursday, September 3 arrival and informal open-mike playing (can be done at nearby Cork and Tap or if I secure a "compound" like we had at the last New Orleans fest) Friday & Saturday activities - there's a LOT of nearby hiking and outdoors opportunities, there are several museums and other sightseeing things of interest, Falls Park downtown has a myriad of locations to see and do, open to other suggestions as well. Friday night - would ideally like to have performances by Dave & Robin and Laurie if any or both is possible. Performance space - The Bohemian, that features a nice stage/sound system attached to a full restaurant bar with all options of food and drink. Saturday night - would love to have a potpourri of local musicians do a Joni tribute ala what Mike's done at The Howling Wolf. I've got some contacts and know folks who have more. Would love to have this event at the venue that USED to be the Handlebar and will be reopening soon. Sunday would be open for whatever; some folks will be heading home, whatever else people want to see and do in the area. That's about what I've put together so far. Definitely open to suggestions! I feel like it's time for me to pay back to the folks who have hosted in the past and Upstate SC does have a lot to offer. Bob NP: Against Me, "F*Ckymylife666" From: Laura Stanley To: "joni@smoe.org" , Les Irvin , Date: 11/05/2014 08:54 AM Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Thanks Les! That was an awesome read! I loved it! I didn't know Joni composed by ear and always wondered about that. I also like what was said about honesty and learning to feel. Definitely those are two things I get from Joni's work too, It is good to see Joni with her hair down. I think she's incredibly beautiful with it up or down. So, what's the buzz for the next Jonifest? Love, Laura From: Les Irvin Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell/ Sent from my iPhone - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:05:21 +0000 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Yeah - tell that to Debussy. However, I can always remember my first hearing of the Dawntreader when everyone else (well pop and folk that I seemed to hear) seemed to be playing standard C,G and D. It did sound like she had invented new guitar chords. I marvel to this day (as y'all know), Anita. > On 5 Nov 2014, at 13:17, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > This was an enjoyable read, although I always bristle when I read someone > saying that Joni invented a bunch of chords. > > Bob > > NP: Barnaby Bright, "Remember When" > > > > From: Les Irvin > To: Joni List , > Date: 11/04/2014 11:29 PM > Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 07:19:59 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest I wish I knew why every apostrophe I type appears in SMOE as a b! It reminds me of a Python routine where the guy could not say the letter c and it converted to a b, with expectedly vulgar results. > On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Bob, webll put it on the calendar. It sounds like a blast. Webre certainly up for the Friday night idea. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:33:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest Awesome Dave! Y'all are certainly key participants and hopefully can introduce you Mutts to the East Coast. Some additional notes - to those looking at travel, GSP (Greenville/Spartanburg) is the closest airport, about 15 minutes away from downtown where things will be located. it's a small airport, nice and easy in and out. Since Southwest signed on, airfares have become much lower. Charlotte NC is about 1.5/2 hours away and can sometimes offer cheaper flights if you want to investigate that option.. Atlanta is about 2.5/3 hours away. Meanwhile - if you're reading this and are interested, feel free to message me offlist with a response (definitely interested....definitely coming...etc) It'll help me to get some numbers to set up housing options. Bob NP: A really stupid conference call - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:35:47 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Liner notes Joniphiles- Joni has written about 9500 words for the liner notes to the new release. Some very interesting stories and insights contained therein. Here is her Iron Eyes Cody story: Like a filmmaker, I cast people in my songs. I cast Billy Idol as the bully in DANCING CLOWN. I cast Tom Petty as the guy he picks on - the "pushbutton window." I cast Willie Nelson as the desert rat in COOL WATER - Rod Steiger as the evangelist in TAX FREE. I cast Iron Eyes Cody as the "grandfather" in I AM LAKOTA. Let me tell you how Iron Eyes came to be on the record. There was a show of Indian artifacts at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium - near where I was recording. We (Mike Shipley, Larry Klein and I) were working on I AM LAKOTA. It was almost finished but I felt like it was lacking something. "Let's take a break," I said. "I want to go to that show at the Civic. I won't be long." It was a little after 5:00. The doors had just opened. "Joan, Joan," Klein said. "This isn't like you - leaving in the middle of a session." I said, "Well, we're not doing anything important - you can spare me for an hour. They've got some rare old stuff over there. Federico told me. Hummingbird baskets, for instance - things you never get a chance to see!" Klein didn't like it. "Come on," I said, "Take a little break." The track was running. Suddenly, the machine seized up. "Oh," I said grinning. "Downtime. Call in the tech! I'll be back in an hour." As I came through the doors I was met by a film crew. "Why are you here?" said a cyclops - a women behind a lens. "To see the show," I said. "I only have an hour." I tried to shake her, but she stuck to me like a paparazzi. "Have you met Iron Eyes Cody? she pestered. "Who's he?" "You don't know Iron Eyes? Cry Indian?" "Oh, the ecology commercial." "Would you like to meet him?" "I guess so, but I don't have much time." She disappeared. I looked at some baskets. I looked at some pots. A little while later she returned with old Iron Eyes. He was wearing a grey wig - long grey braids. It was tied on under his chin with a black string. It was tied in a bow like a bonnet. "A bald Indian?" I thought, "I never saw a bald Indian before." Years later, I was informed by a Lakota Sioux that Iron eyes was a Sicilian. We shook hands. "Do you know any Indian songs?" I asked him. "Sure," he said, and performer that he was, he tipped back his head and sang the little song that Lakota opens with. "What are you doing right now?" I asked him. "Well, I was supposed to go to dinner with some people . . . ." "Could you come with me to a recording studio - it's near here. Could you put that down on tape?" "You want me to overdub?" he said. That made me laugh. "Yes," I said, "Exactly!" "O.K.," he said. So I came back to the studio with three Indians (well, two Mazatecs and a Sicilian) and a film crew. I was half an hour late, but the machine was still frozen. We sat and waited. When it was finally fixed I played the track for Iron Eyes who said, when it was over, "Oh - it's got the haunting. I think you're turning Indian." Into the studio he went. He "overdubbed" like the pro he was. It was just what the piece needed. We were relaxing now. The track was finished. Iron Eyes was telling John Wayne stories - tales of how John could hold his liquor. Suddenly it began to thunder and rain - hard. Iron Eyes and I went out on the back steps to watch it come down. As we watched, a ball o fire appeared on the lines leading into the studio. It was sliding towards us. I ran inside and told the boys about it. They pulled the tape off the heads in case the lightening sent the machine into record. I didn't see it hit but it made the lights flicker. No damage was done and the storm moved on. It only struck Santa Monica - nowhere else in L.A. Strange. Beautiful. Ball lightening. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 07:11:03 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest Bob, webll put it on the calendar. It sounds like a blast. Webre certainly up for the Friday night idea. > On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Laura, > > I'm definitely planning on having a Jonifest in Greenville, SC over Labor > Day weekend 2015 (September 3-7). I think the area will lend itself well > to the format established by Ashara, Mikey, Dave and others. > > Schedule looking to be as follows: > > Thursday, September 3 arrival and informal open-mike playing (can be done > at nearby Cork and Tap or if I secure a "compound" like we had at the last > New Orleans fest) > > Friday & Saturday activities - there's a LOT of nearby hiking and outdoors > opportunities, there are several museums and other sightseeing things of > interest, Falls Park downtown has a myriad of locations to see and do, > open to other suggestions as well. > > Friday night - would ideally like to have performances by Dave & Robin and > Laurie if any or both is possible. Performance space - The Bohemian, that > features a nice stage/sound system attached to a full restaurant bar with > all options of food and drink. > > Saturday night - would love to have a potpourri of local musicians do a > Joni tribute ala what Mike's done at The Howling Wolf. I've got some > contacts and know folks who have more. Would love to have this event at > the venue that USED to be the Handlebar and will be reopening soon. > > Sunday would be open for whatever; some folks will be heading home, > whatever else people want to see and do in the area. > > That's about what I've put together so far. Definitely open to > suggestions! I feel like it's time for me to pay back to the folks who > have hosted in the past and Upstate SC does have a lot to offer. > > Bob > > NP: Against Me, "F*Ckymylife666" > > > > From: Laura Stanley > To: "joni@smoe.org" , Les Irvin , > Date: 11/05/2014 08:54 AM > Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Thanks Les! > > That was an awesome read! I loved it! I didn't know Joni composed by ear > and > always wondered about that. I also like what was said about honesty and > learning to feel. Definitely those are two things I get from Joni's work > too, > > It is good to see Joni with her hair down. I think she's incredibly > beautiful > with it up or down. > > So, what's the buzz for the next Jonifest? > > Love, > Laura > > > > > > > > From: Les Irvin > Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:45:07 -0500 From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest Yipppeeee Bob! Sounds great to me!!!!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:33:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest NJC Or the Bill Cosby character that always talked like that LOL... Bob From: Dave Blackburn To: Dave Blackburn , Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com, Laura Stanley , JMDL JMDL Date: 11/05/2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Next (?) Jonifest I wish I knew why every apostrophe I type appears in SMOE as a b! It reminds me of a Python routine where the guy could not say the letter c and it converted to a b, with expectedly vulgar results. > On Nov 5, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Bob, webll put it on the calendar. It sounds like a blast. Webre certainly up for the Friday night idea. > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:21:14 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: America Lost Well b& The election was yesterday. The results are in. America LOST. AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 07:41:05 -0600 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Cameron Crowe honors Joni Thanks Les! That was an awesome read! I loved it! I didn't know Joni composed by ear and always wondered about that. I also like what was said about honesty and learning to feel. Definitely those are two things I get from Joni's work too, It is good to see Joni with her hair down. I think she's incredibly beautiful with it up or down. So, what's the buzz for the next Jonifest? Love, Laura From: Les Irvin Subject: Cameron Crowe honors Joni http://hammer.ucla.edu/blog/2014/11/cameron-crowe-honors-joni-mitchell/ Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 06:54:37 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Hejira live is now downloadable By request, Mutts of the Planetbs new album, Hejira Live, is now downloadable, in mp3, mp3 320 and FLAC lossless format, from CD Baby http://cdbaby.com/cd/robinadlerandmuttsofthep thanks Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:00:30 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Liner notes Les, I love these kinds of stories when everything seems to line up just the way it should and there seems some magic in the air. I read that the First People's in California did honour Iron Eyes for his portrayals of their culture, despite him not being the real deal and having Sicilian heritage. Anita On 5 November 2014 17:35, Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles- > > Joni has written about 9500 words for the liner notes to the new release. > Some very interesting stories and insights contained therein. Here is her > Iron Eyes Cody story: > > Like a filmmaker, I cast people in my songs. I cast Billy Idol as the > bully in DANCING CLOWN. I cast Tom Petty as the guy he picks on - the > "pushbutton window." I cast Willie Nelson as the desert rat in COOL WATER - > Rod Steiger as the evangelist in TAX FREE. I cast Iron Eyes Cody as the > "grandfather" in I AM LAKOTA. > > Let me tell you how Iron Eyes came to be on the record. > > There was a show of Indian artifacts at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium > - near where I was recording. We (Mike Shipley, Larry Klein and I) were > working on I AM LAKOTA. It was almost finished but I felt like it was > lacking something. "Let's take a break," I said. "I want to go to that show > at the Civic. I won't be long." It was a little after 5:00. The doors had > just opened. "Joan, Joan," Klein said. "This isn't like you - leaving in > the middle of a session." I said, "Well, we're not doing anything important > - you can spare me for an hour. They've got some rare old stuff over there. > Federico told me. Hummingbird baskets, for instance - things you never get > a chance to see!" Klein didn't like it. "Come on," I said, "Take a little > break." The track was running. Suddenly, the machine seized up. "Oh," I > said grinning. "Downtime. Call in the tech! I'll be back in an hour." > > As I came through the doors I was met by a film crew. "Why are you here?" > said a cyclops - a women behind a lens. "To see the show," I said. "I only > have an hour." I tried to shake her, but she stuck to me like a paparazzi. > "Have you met Iron Eyes Cody? she pestered. "Who's he?" "You don't know > Iron Eyes? Cry Indian?" "Oh, the ecology commercial." "Would you like to > meet him?" "I guess so, but I don't have much time." She disappeared. I > looked at some baskets. I looked at some pots. A little while later she > returned with old Iron Eyes. He was wearing a grey wig - long grey braids. > It was tied on under his chin with a black string. It was tied in a bow > like a bonnet. "A bald Indian?" I thought, "I never saw a bald Indian > before." Years later, I was informed by a Lakota Sioux that Iron eyes was a > Sicilian. > > We shook hands. "Do you know any Indian songs?" I asked him. "Sure," he > said, and performer that he was, he tipped back his head and sang the > little song that Lakota opens with. "What are you doing right now?" I asked > him. "Well, I was supposed to go to dinner with some people . . . ." "Could > you come with me to a recording studio - it's near here. Could you put that > down on tape?" "You want me to overdub?" he said. That made me laugh. > "Yes," I said, "Exactly!" "O.K.," he said. > > So I came back to the studio with three Indians (well, two Mazatecs and a > Sicilian) and a film crew. I was half an hour late, but the machine was > still frozen. We sat and waited. When it was finally fixed I played the > track for Iron Eyes who said, when it was over, "Oh - it's got the > haunting. I think you're turning Indian." > > Into the studio he went. He "overdubbed" like the pro he was. It was just > what the piece needed. > > We were relaxing now. The track was finished. Iron Eyes was telling John > Wayne stories - tales of how John could hold his liquor. Suddenly it began > to thunder and rain - hard. Iron Eyes and I went out on the back steps to > watch it come down. As we watched, a ball o fire appeared on the lines > leading into the studio. It was sliding towards us. I ran inside and told > the boys about it. They pulled the tape off the heads in case the > lightening sent the machine into record. I didn't see it hit but it made > the lights flicker. No damage was done and the storm moved on. It only > struck Santa Monica - nowhere else in L.A. Strange. Beautiful. Ball > lightening. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1373 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------