From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1337 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, October 23 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1337 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell to release remastered greatest hits collection ["Mark" Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= Is it my projection or imagination, or is the photo of Joni in 1970 whilst making 'Blue' (JM 09) very much in line with Joni's description of herself as 'paper thin.'Her eyes look, to me, slightly differently focused - not really present, almost other worldly, yet her gaze is solidly at the camera. Her hands look as if they are moving. It's an uncomfortable photo to me. Be interested to know what anyone else sees. It is also interesting to see photos over a period of years. The confident musician in the 80s is very different from the woman of the late 60s and early70s. http://joelbernstein.com/JMthumb.html Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:41:30 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: =?utf-8?Q?PopSpots_=26_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= Jeff Clark wrote: > Speaking of the evolution of Joni songs, I happened to look at Joel Bernsteinbs WebSite and > saw a b&w Joni photo I'd never seen before. Its of the first draft of Barangrill sitting on her > piano. If you've never seen it before its a cool photo. > It looks like the working title is Lost Hill or something. > > Jeff, You should check out You may be surprised to see the uncropped photo that ended up on the cover of Neil Young's "After The Goldrush". The original photo includes Graham Nash. They also located the original location. A number of photos, notes, and explanations are also included. PopSpots is a WebSite that locates the exact locations of album cover photos and other visuals of pop history. They tracked down the location of the photo featured on the back cover of Jonibs bSONG TO A SEAGULLb album. Check it out @ Itbs the 10th photo as you scroll down. AndMoreAgain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:07:32 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: There's Truth in Humor The Truth - In Humor F-Bombs For Feminism: Potty-Mouthed Princesses use Bad Word For Good Cause by FCKH8.com or Facing a future where women are still paid 23% less than men for the same work, and where 1 in 5 women are raped or sexually assaulted in gender-based violence, little girls between 6 and 13 years-old dressed as pretty pink princesses drop F-bombs to draw attention to societybs continued sexism. Asking the question, bWhatbs more offensive? A little girl saying f*ck or the sexist way society treats girls and womenb these adorably articulate little ladies in sparkling tiaras turn the bprincess in distressb stereotype on its head and contrast the F-word with words and statistics society should find shocking such as bpay inequalityb and brape.b The video also features a 12 year-old boy wearing a pink gown standing up against sexism saying, bWhen you tell boys not to bact like a girl,b itbs because you think itbs bad to be a girl.b - - - - - Hey White People: A Kinda Awkward Note to America by #Ferguson Kids Six black kids from Ferguson, MO bluntly and sarcastically educate white America about the racist reality in 2014. Recruited from the very block where unarmed black teen Michael Brown was gunned down by a white police officer, these kids ranging in age from 6 to 13 years old, use sometimes uncomfortable humor to show white people the continued racism their generation faces. Armed ONLY with statistics (hands up, don't shoot) these articulate and adorable kids are not having it while much of white America would rather pretend racism is over. - - - - - Hands Up. Donbt Shoot! AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:45:48 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= Just a little addendum. Photo 08 on Joel's website shows Joni wearing the cap she was wearing in a truly awful but much loved snap that Steph took of with me with Joni I in Paris '83. She has the cap, I have the glasses, http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1543 Anita > On 23 Oct 2014, at 17:38, Anita Gabrielle wrote: > > Is it my projection or imagination, or is the photo of Joni in 1970 whilst making 'Blue' (JM 09) very much in line with Joni's description of herself as 'paper thin.'Her eyes look, to me, slightly differently focused - not really present, almost other worldly, yet her gaze is solidly at the camera. Her hands look as if they are moving. It's an uncomfortable photo to me. Be interested to know what anyone else sees. > > It is also interesting to see photos over a period of years. The confident musician in the 80s is very different from the woman of the late 60s and early70s. > > http://joelbernstein.com/JMthumb.html > > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:06:53 +0000 From: Mike B Subject: No Apologies >I don't why No Apologies is on the new set other than Joni is obviously proud of it. JeffB Hi Jeff, I interpret No Apologies as being a dissection of masculinity, or masculinity gone wrong - military brutality, bullying in personal relationships (with what looks like a dig at Jackson Brown, again...), and violation of the planet (and its moon). A kind of sequel to Not To Blame. So I can see why it might be included in an exploration of love and relationships. That said, and without wanting to spoil anyone's enjoyment of the new set (so if you're excited by the Quartet please stop reading now!), to me the new release is the most uninteresting Joni event ever, and depressing in its lack of musical creativity (I like the paintings). As already remarked on the list, we can all compile our own re-sequencing of Joni material as we see fit. I'm not against the principle of re-releases - I enjoyed and still love Songs of a Prairie Girl - but come on, enough is enough. Seems to me Joni has too much time on her hands... :)Cheers to you allMichel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:43:43 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell to release remastered greatest hits collection There were several songs that had me scratching my head when I first read the track list. After giving it some thought, it seems to me that Joni is exploring a very broad spectrum of definitions for the word love. The word has many more connotations than an emotion between two human beings. There is love of power, love of wealth and material objects, love of the ways of darkness beyond belief. Maybe 'No Apologies' represents a twisted kind of love of power, a perverse power that needs to control other people or to completely disregard humans in pursuit of its ends. It also occurred to me that her intent might be to leave behind a score for a ballet (albeit, a long ballet) in the hope that maybe someday, somebody with the resources, talent and commitment will find a way to actually choreograph and produce it. We know that Joni does not notate her music and this would be the only record of the music that was intended to be used. Dave has said that master tapes are not always preserved and so Joni is trying to find a way to keep the piece intact in some form. I really would like to read what she wrote for the booklet that accompanies the set. I may have to buy this after all. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Susan E. McNamara Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:30 PM To: Anita Gabrielle Cc: Mark ; Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell to release remastered greatest hits collection Nailed it Anita ... I was thinking the same thing ... Plus I had to think for a while about God Must Be A Boogie Man ... And even if it is about teenage love, I still can't listen to Rays Dads Cadillac ... Rant over ... I still plan on buying this ... Sue Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2014, at 4:18 PM, "Anita Gabrielle" > wrote: > > Can't get my head round "No Apologies" as part of Love having many faces. > Anyone any ideas? > Anita > > > >> On 18 Oct 2014, at 18:22, Mark wrote: >> >> Well now I'm having second thoughts about buying this. The 'deluxe >> hardcover book' sounds awfully tempting. And Sue had a good point about >> the songs being remastered. As I recall, the music used for 'The Fiddle >> and the Drum' sounded great. I don't know what kind of sound system was >> used to play it. >> >> Mark in Seattle >> >> -----Original Message----- From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com >> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:25 AM >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell to release remastered greatest >> hits collection >> >> Title: Joni Mitchell to release remastered greatest hits collection >> Publication: NME >> Date: 2014.10.15 >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2844 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1337 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------