From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1304 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 14 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1304 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set [Les Irvin ] Re: Mingus in concert [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:19:18 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set I'm probably wrong, but I think very few of her songs have been remastered throughout the zillions of repackaged sets she's released. Mr Blackburn, what you say? On 10/14/2014 9:06 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > > Which brings me to the question: How many different remastered > versions of songs are there now? I really would like to know! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:06:30 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set Am 14.10.2014 um 16:44 schrieb Les Irvin: > "Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting To Be Danced" will be > released on November 17. This is a 4-CD boxed set with 53 > previously-released tracks, although the tracks have all apparently been > remastered. > > http://amzn.to/1sGpG5p > I like the front cover painting which you can see a bit more close-up here: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81NFVGpttEL._SL1500_.jpg. As I have refused to buy any of those releases that contain songs that I already own because I bought the original albums several times (first on vinyl, then on CD, some as remastered CD, so I guess that's "enough" now), I have not kept track with all those "remastered" recordings. Which brings me to the question: How many different remastered versions of songs are there now? I really would like to know! As for the "curated" song order by Joni M.: I don't know about you here (tell me!) but I have converted everything to digital (as for the flac-sensitive folks here I will not mention the terrible **3 format;) and are able to play songs according to playlists which is not a new concept. I do not need a new box set to listen to songs in the Joni order, I can grab the songs that I already have and play them in that sequence should I see a reason why I should do so. moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:52:11 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set This brings to mind the Elvis Costello song "Worthless Thing". Just another ploy to get people to buy "Dancing Clown". Bob NP: Green Day, "Ashley (Demo)" From: Les Irvin To: Joni List , Date: 10/14/2014 10:47 AM Subject: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org "Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting To Be Danced" will be released on November 17. 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The remixed Paprika Plains on Song for a Prairie Girl was quite an improvement, though the only reason Joni wanted it remixed had to do with piano intonation I believe. In some ways I feel weve had to hear through the audio to be able to appreciate the brilliant music. The 70s were a time of transistors replacing tubes and carpeted drum booths being favored to soak up any trace of room ambience, so Jonis records are somewhat of their time sound-wise. Dave On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Les Irvin wrote: > I'm probably wrong, but I think very few of her songs have been remastered throughout the zillions of repackaged sets she's released. Mr Blackburn, what you say? > > On 10/14/2014 9:06 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: >> >> Which brings me to the question: How many different remastered versions of songs are there now? I really would like to know! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:44:52 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set "Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting To Be Danced" will be released on November 17. This is a 4-CD boxed set with 53 previously-released tracks, although the tracks have all apparently been remastered. http://amzn.to/1sGpG5p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:07:12 -0700 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Mingus in concert The first time I heard the album, I enjoyed the raps. They were part of the whole story. But after that, I simply found them annoying and intrusive. I haven't got them on my Ipod, not that that means a lot. This sounds like a great show and I'm sure you'll knock 'em off their feet. ________________________________ From: Dave Blackburn To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: JMDL JMDL Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Mingus in concert Bob, I plan to capture and mix the concert, but I dont think there will be a release; well see how it goes. If theres a significant demand, it could happen Im not sure whether well include those raps; in many ways they interrupt the flow of the music and I always skip them. What does everyone else think about them and whether they are an essential element or not? Dave ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1304 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------