From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1293 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, October 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1293 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Retro Covers, Volume 117 [Bob Muller ] The Argument Clinic NJC [Steve Dulson ] RE: Mingus in concert [c Karma ] RE: Mingus in concert [c Karma ] Re: Mingus in concert [Dave Blackburn ] RE: Mingus in concert ["Susan E. McNamara" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:56:37 -0700 From: Bob Muller Subject: Retro Covers, Volume 117 Howdy howdy all...here's a look back at an oldie but a goodie. Definitely a couple names you'll recognize and a bunch of songs you know by heart. 1. Wendy Matthews - Cherokee Louise 2. The Slow Club Quartet - Both Sides Now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:18:33 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: The Argument Clinic NJC David wrote: >For some reason, I have been laughing and laughing in my head lately (at >least I hope it's only in my head) at the Argument Clinic. "That's not >argument; that's contradiction." "No it's not." The very first Monty Python I heard! I was driving in Atlanta in 1973 when the rock station I was listening to played it. I had no idea what it was, but I had to pull over, I was laughing so much. Thanks for the reminder. :) *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:06:40 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: Mingus in concert I'd LOVE to hear Dave and Robin do the whole I's A Muggin number game. CC > From: sem8@cornell.edu > To: ckarma@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Mingus in concert > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:03:14 +0000 > > I was thinking last night it would be fun to hear Robin sing "I's a muggin' do dat do wata" :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:58 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: re: Mingus in concert > > I think I fall with Cassy on this. Apart from documentary value, I think they also provide some pacing and even some thematic reference, particularly for "A Chair in the Sky" and "The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines." > > <<< What does everyone else think about them and whether they are an essential element or not? >>> > > I'm not sure what the legalities would be but you could intersperse recordings of the actual raps in between your takes on the music. I do think there is historical value to including them. > > Warmly > Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:35:02 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: Mingus in concert I've been trying to talk my jazz singer friend Ann into covering "Sweet Sucker Dance" and "A Chair in the Sky" for years. I've been soft sell so far, but it's time to take the gloves off. CC > From: sem8@cornell.edu > To: lawntreader@googlemail.com > CC: ckarma@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Mingus in concert > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:32:05 +0000 > > The concert's under a month away now ... rap or no rap, it will be fabulous. Mingus has a special place in my heart ... when it first came out I embarrassed myself by playing it loud at a party and standing on a chair and singing Goodbye Porkpie Hat drunk as a skunk!!! Oh the good ol days, when I felt everyone had to kneel at the altar of Joni! :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Anita G > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:19 AM > To: Susan E. McNamara > Cc: c Karma; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Mingus in concert > > I'm always quite enthusiastic when people re-write or add or do something different with music that I know. Personally, I was quite pleased when I wrote an extra verse to'Woodstock' and added Moby's 'We are all made of stars' on the end. > > It might be possible, with time and energy, to update the rap sections to make some commentary about the album or Mingus and Joni. The only thing with that is that I imagine most people wouldn't know the album well enough to get it and you have spend time writing it, Anita > > On 10 October 2014 16:03, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > > > I was thinking last night it would be fun to hear Robin sing "I's a > > muggin' do dat do wata" :-) > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c > > Karma > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:58 AM > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: re: Mingus in concert > > > > I think I fall with Cassy on this. Apart from documentary value, I > > think they also provide some pacing and even some thematic reference, > > particularly for "A Chair in the Sky" and "The Dry Cleaner From Des > > Moines." > > > > <<< What does everyone else think about them and whether they are an > > essential element or not? >>> > > > > I'm not sure what the legalities would be but you could intersperse > > recordings of the actual raps in between your takes on the music. I do > > think there is historical value to including them. > > > > Warmly > > Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:08:42 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Mingus in concert If we did include them it would certainly not be us acting the parts but playing the clips from the record. But, as Sue pointed out, they are hard to make out in places and their connection to the music is somewhat oblique. On Oct 9, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > It's just me, I guess but I think it would add an element of huge fun to > throw the rap performances in there - if you could stage it sort of > separately from the band and shift from the "actors" to the band. Those > that know the record would find it amusing I'd think - then again, getting > this music down would be challenging enough, to add extra stuff would make > it trickier. > > Bob > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Sue Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:53 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: Mingus in concert Yeah, Sue, that's sort of my take too. On Oct 9, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I like the raps on Mingus mostly as artifacts of Joni's interaction with Mingus, hearing his voice, especially where they talk about his funeral ... but I don't think they need to be included when performing the music, meaning I don't see them as essential parts of the compositions themselves. > > Susan Tierney McNamara ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1293 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------