From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1271 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 30 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1271 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Still Can't Believe It [Jeff Clark ] RE: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... ["Susan E. McNamara" ] [none] [Jeff Clark ] Re: Out in the Country with Joni singing backup vocals [Laura Stanley ] Re: joni and laura [Michael Paz ] Fwd: (1) [Pearl Weisberg ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:21:52 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... Man, you guys got it made out there. So who's going? Bob NP: Prince, "Way Back Home" From: Anita Gabrielle To: Steve Dulson , Cc: "joni@smoe.org" Date: 09/30/2014 03:39 AM Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Very cool! Definitely worth being a member for this one. Anita > On 30 Sep 2014, at 03:54, Steve Dulson wrote: > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2014/11/love-has-many-faces-the-art-of-joni-mitchell/ > > *************************************************** > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Anita Long Nose > On 30 Sep 2014, at 13:21, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Man, you guys got it made out there. So who's going? > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Way Back Home" > > > > From: Anita Gabrielle > To: Steve Dulson , > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Date: 09/30/2014 03:39 AM > Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Very cool! Definitely worth being a member for this one. > Anita > >> On 30 Sep 2014, at 03:54, Steve Dulson wrote: > http://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2014/11/love-has-many-faces-the-art-of-joni-mitchell/ > >> >> *************************************************** >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA >> FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:34:56 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Still Can't Believe It From: Jeff Clark I Still Can't Believe it. I Still can't believe Joni is singing this song Out in the Country. Hi Jeff, Don't think I've met you, but I enjoy what you say on this list. I hear Joni more clearly with each listen of Paul Williams singing Out In the Country, and I've probably listened over 20 times now and already had my morning dose. I like Paul singing it better than Three Dog Night. He lacks nothing in the way of being an incredible singer of this song in my opinion. Right before the harmony starts I can feel Paul's anticipation of it in his burst of enthusiasm as he sings. It really is awesome! Thanks, Laura Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:17:04 -0700 From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Still Can't Believe It Hi Laura, I'm glad you enjoy Out in the Country. Makes me happy too, but i'm think I'm getting over it now. I probably listened to it 20 times total. I don't think I've met you, but are you the one whose son is getting married? I was confused about that whole thing about what the song is for. Around here most weddings end with a drunken melee of YMCA/I Will Survive or Friends in Low Places. They're fun to watch. When Mark asked if I meant the song Shine or the whole album for the dance I then thought why not have a Joni dance marathon where you dance to all her albums from the beginning, like in They Shoot Horses, Don't They? It could be a benefit for something, or you could win a trip to Saskatoon (LA is too expensive). I might make it through about half of Ladies of the Canyon, but probably other people have more stamina. The early stuff is a little slow, so you'd have to liven it up, i.e., you could do the tango to Nathan laFraneer, the jitterbug to Marcie, etc. Just thinking. Jeff On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:34 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: From: Jeff Clark I Still Can't Believe it. I Still can't believe Joni is singing this song Out in the Country. Hi Jeff, Don't think I've met you, but I enjoy what you say on this list. I hear Joni more clearly with each listen of Paul Williams singing Out In the Country, and I've probably listened over 20 times now and already had my morning dose. I like Paul singing it better than Three Dog Night. He lacks nothing in the way of being an incredible singer of this song in my opinion. Right before the harmony starts I can feel Paul's anticipation of it in his burst of enthusiasm as he sings. It really is awesome! Thanks, Laura Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:42:18 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... ARGGH! That is the exact day Pat Hillis and I are going to see Sarah McLachlan at Massey Hall in Toronto!! Well, we will be there with whoever goes in spirit!! This seems to be similar to the Ruby Lake Joni and a Movie format. Like Bob said, I'm sure the usual suspects will be in attendance!! ARGGH! So jelly!!! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:22 AM To: Anita Gabrielle Cc: joni@smoe.org; Steve Dulson Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... Man, you guys got it made out there. So who's going? Bob NP: Prince, "Way Back Home" From: Anita Gabrielle To: Steve Dulson , Cc: "joni@smoe.org" Date: 09/30/2014 03:39 AM Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Very cool! Definitely worth being a member for this one. Anita > On 30 Sep 2014, at 03:54, Steve Dulson wrote: > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2014/11/love-has-many-faces-the-art-of-joni-mitchell/ > > *************************************************** > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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One wouldn't just say that without some confirmation, > especially where Joni is concerned. > > Bob > > NP: The Rolling Stones, "Too Tight" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:46:43 -0700 From: Shadows and light Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... well, the hammer is affiliated with ucla and has wonderful exhibits and speakers. right now, buddhist monks are creating a sand mandala. http://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2014/mandala-of-compassion/ tonight, naomi klein, who wrote: "this changes everything", an ecological manifesto is speaking. as anita said, definitely worth a membership if you are local. yes, this is tempting, however almost all of the usual suspects have seen the ballet performed and met joni many times. to me, this is far less tempting than an exhibition of her paintings. wishing her happy birthday is another matter, but who knows if she'll show. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Anita Gabrielle wrote: > Yes, I know Bob, but having met Joni so many times and having DVD copy of > the ballet, I don't mind missing this. > Anita Long Nose > > > On 30 Sep 2014, at 13:21, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > > Man, you guys got it made out there. So who's going? > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Prince, "Way Back Home" > > > > > > > > From: Anita Gabrielle > > To: Steve Dulson , > > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > > Date: 09/30/2014 03:39 AM > > Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... > > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > > > > > Very cool! Definitely worth being a member for this one. > > Anita > > > >> On 30 Sep 2014, at 03:54, Steve Dulson wrote: > > > http://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2014/11/love-has-many-faces-the-art-of-joni-mitchell/ > > > >> > >> *************************************************** > >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > >> FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:16:03 -0700 From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Joni wedding song You're welcome Sue. I think Shine is a beautiful song. So is the Circle Game. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they choose. Meanwhile, enjoy the day. Jeff On Monday, September 29, 2014 10:51 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: Thanks for mentioning Shine, Jeff. That made me think of If as a great mother and son dance song, although because it was written by Rudyard Kipling, that may be tossed, too!! I guess ultimately I like the Circle Game for a mother son dance. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Clark Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:51 PM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: Joni wedding song I was wondering if this issue died, or was out there lingering around unresolved, sus chord after sus chord after sus chord, like a Joni song. Thinking of good wedding songs by Joni ("everything comes and goes") Mitchell isn't easy. We are talking about a wedding, not a death march or a prison sentence, and it is not to be implied that a wedding is in any way similar to the other two. Since My Best to You is nixed for not being by Joni, I recommend Underneath the Streetlight (UTS), (trying to avoid "JRCTS" (Joni-related Carpel Tunnel Syndrome) to be edited somewhat and used as the actual wedding vows. Like the judge says "Do you swear to take this person to be your wife?" Your Honor, I swear to the blinking planes above I Do, I I swear on the disco spark dark I do, I swear on the bebop boys chasing the black bird, I do", etc. Then the song Shine (S) could be used for the mother son dance. It is a beautiful positve song about being happy despite all the crappy things in the world, like cell phones, lawyers, distracted drivers that don't know where they're going, doctors pills giving you brand new ills, sex selling everything, etc. And it give more attention to S, which is so underappreciated. Here in NE Ohio on a gorgeous early autumn day, I will take a long bike ride and am going to take pictures and send them to Joni and see if she feels like painting them. Jeff, still listening to Out in the Country. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:57:59 -0700 From: Jeff Clark Subject: [none] Dave, I'm from the era, and I'm sure alot of us are, where I worked hard to purchase vinyl. I didn't have older siblings who already had record collections, close-by cousins, etc. I mentioned having my cds, everyone of which I bought, scattered lost, given away, etc. For many years I took meticulous care of albumns, then CDS, but moving around a few times, it got harder to do. I remember when I had about 4 or 5 hundred cds, I threw out all the plastic and then just kept the disc in the front booklet that comes with the cd. I still have alot that are stored like that. I never got into mp3s, napster, anything. For the past 10 years I still mostly listened to CDs (or the radio) when I wanted to hear something. Really only the last few years have I been to youtube. I think its wrong to enjoy this stuff without paying for it. I would be happy to pay a monthly charge to hear things on youtube. I thought it was going that way. Subscribers pay for the monthly use and then perhaps it cuts down on the advertising that you have to put up with. It is a subject i think about alot. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:52:28 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Out in the Country with Joni singing backup vocals Very nice! Thanks! Great song for the day after a 50 mile bicycle ride out in the country. Letting my beautiful friend I rode with hear it too. Heavenly. LoVe, Laura > From: kbhla@fastmail.fm > Subject: Re: Out in the Country with Joni singing backup vocals > > OMG - that is too freaky, Jeff! One degree of separation that brings > it back to Joni. Wow - I now remember this version by Paul Williams but > never knew that gang all sang back-up. I like this version better than > 3 Dog Night, too. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTpzTbk8cgI > > Kakki > > >> Wow! I just listened to Paul Williams doing Out in the Country on youtube >> and this time reading the notes, Jackson Browne, Linda Rondstadt and >> JONI!! are sing backup vocals on it. I didn't know that. I can hear each >> one. What a find. Makes my night. btw I just made it up that I talked to >> her about a good wedding song and she the Carpenters. We really don't >> talk that much anymore ha ha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:57:48 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni celebrates her birthday in LA.... wishing her happy birthday is another matter, but who knows if she'll show.> Well, the event description does say: "An evening celebrating the artistic range of Joni Mitchell with the artist herself, who will introduce a screening of The Fiddle and the Drum ." I understand that she COULD pull a no-show but it sure appears that it's highly likely. One wouldn't just say that without some confirmation, especially where Joni is concerned. Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Too Tight" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:17:48 -0700 From: "Paul Meyer-strom" Subject: Re: Joni wedding song (I can't help mentioning a song that I wish Joni would sing, Jack Neilson's wonderful Shine On Our Love, a beautiful wedding song.) Sun is shining (on our love) through the Douglas Firs here in Oregon. Paul - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Clark" Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:50 AM To: Subject: Joni wedding song > I was wondering if this issue died, or was out there lingering around > unresolved, sus chord after sus chord after sus chord, like a Joni song. > Thinking of good wedding songs by Joni ("everything comes and goes") > Mitchell isn't easy. We are talking about a wedding, not a death march or > a prison sentence, and it is not to be implied that a wedding is in any > way similar to the other two. Since My Best to You is nixed for not being > by Joni, I recommend Underneath the Streetlight (UTS), (trying to avoid > "JRCTS" (Joni-related Carpel Tunnel Syndrome) to be edited somewhat and > used as the actual wedding vows. Like the judge says "Do you swear to take > this person to be your wife?" Your Honor, I swear to the blinking planes > above I Do, I I swear on the disco spark dark I do, I swear on the bebop > boys chasing the black bird, I do", etc. Then the song Shine (S) could be > used for the mother son dance. It is a beautiful positve song about being > happy despite all the > crappy things in the world, like cell phones, lawyers, distracted drivers > that don't know where they're going, doctors pills giving you brand new > ills, sex selling everything, etc. And it give more attention to S, which > is so underappreciated. Here in NE Ohio on a gorgeous early autumn day, I > will take a long bike ride and am going to take pictures and send them to > Joni and see if she feels like painting them. > Jeff, still listening to Out in the Country. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:30:35 -0400 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: joni and laura Hi Jeff Here is a link to All Music which has a partial list of stuff she has sone. You can filter her credits with other people to Background vocals etc. I have always loved this web site. And I have been thinking about this for the past few days. Alot of the things I have heard her do backing vox on are live recordings and many of them bootleg or not released commercially. I find it hard to believe she did not win more grammys back in the day. I guess she came around before they had a Best New Artist and then most of the time no one knew where to put her. Ah well... Paz (in D.C. still) On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Jeff Clark wrote: Hi Michael, I didn't realize she sang on a LOT of other peoples albums, of course on some. I just, personally, really like the SOUND of her voice at this period of Out in the Country. I find the song tailored perfectly to her singing style and I get a feeling she really enjoys singing it. There seems to be great chemistry among them. I can't really hear Linda or Jackson, but at that point (1972) I think Joni was much more famous. Paul is limited as a singer of course. I've come across people who think Joni should just write songs and not sing, probably everyone has. Plenty of people think Dylan shouldn't sing, but he still does, if you want call it that. I've been reading up a bit on Paul Williams and I definitely want to see his documentary Paul Williams Still Alive. And he won a Grammy of the year award recently? Rambling a bit, but one of my favorite clips on youtube is the 1975 grammy awards for record of the year. I would imagine most people have seen it, buy maybe not. Its where Joni is nominated for Help Me and John Lennon and Paul Simon introduce. You have to type 17th Grammy Awards John Lennon and Paul Simon record of the year, I think. Its a great time capsule. good day. On Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:54 PM, Michael Paz wrote: HI Jeff I have always thought of Joni as a great harmony singer. She did all of her own voices for so many years on her studio albums and then I can think of so many songs she has sung harmony on other peoples studio albums and live recordings. I have always loved Long Ago... and I love the duet she sang with Seal, If I Could... My 2 centavos Paz On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Jeff Clark wrote: I did enjoy hearing Joni sing on Out in the Country. She's not thought of as a harmony singer the way that Emmylou or Linda are, but she is a great harmony singer. Prior to this, my favorite singing of hers on someone else's album was on James Taylor's Long Ago and Far Away. Joni was sometimes referred to as the "sweet singer", and at this period I could see how the term applies. She sang beautiful duets with Johnny Cash. I love Laura and used to have most of her stuff, but things are scattered, so when I've needed a Laura fix in the past year or so I go to Youtube, and despite all the great songs Laura has written and composed and is famous for, I love hearing her do Oo-o Child. I've forwarded it to people, etc. I love the video clips of her in it. Ooh Child, most people know was popularized by the Five Stairsteps and written by Stan Vincent. I haven't seen if Stan Vincent sings it and Joni sings harmony on it yet :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:49:20 -0400 From: Pearl Weisberg Subject: Fwd: (1) Hullo! http://dvgrafix.com/1lady.php?derisyr=8564329&axizjqi=504128 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1271 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------