From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1168 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1168 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- article: Joni Mitchell, Mark Bradford to Be Honored by Hammer Museum (Hollywood Reporter) [Moni Kellermann <] New Library item: Entertainment Roots and Rails Music Festival at Brantford Station Gallery [TheSt] Re: Hejira -- first generation master [Shari ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1166 [Laurie Antonioli ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:40:23 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: article: Joni Mitchell, Mark Bradford to Be Honored by Hammer Museum (Hollywood Reporter) source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/joni-mitchell-mark-bradford-be-732069 "Mitchell [...] is ba relatively new friendb of the museumbs, says Morehouse, noting her iconic status and her own painting practice as considerations in honoring her." moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:19:50 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Entertainment Roots and Rails Music Festival at Brantford Station Gallery Title: Entertainment Roots and Rails Music Festival at Brantford Station Gallery Publication: Brantford Expositor Date: 2014.09.03 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2821 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:14:48 -0700 From: Shari Subject: Re: Hejira -- first generation master Can you get Kip to invite us to a listening party?!?! > On Sep 9, 2014, at 7:06, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Chris, > > I guess it goes like this: in the analog era it was common for a 2-track master to be sent to a plant in the US and another to Europe for pressing (maybe Asia too - I dont know). The European one was a safety copy of the US one, so I guess my heading is not quite correct, this being a copy of the first gen master. The Netherlands plant changed hands or closed down years ago and it was going to dump the contents of its tape vaults in the trash (!!!) until someone swept up the best titles and made them available for sale. They are fully authentic and have all appropriate markings on the tape box. Kip owns Blue, Court and Spark, Hejira, Dark Side of the Moon, Kind of Blue, and dozens of others. He played me some of Blue and it was so vivid it made you laugh, tape being far richer sounding than vinyl, which is subjected to heavy eq processing to conform to the RIAA curve. > > Kip also has a DSD recorder that can sample at 384kHz (a CD is 44.1kHz) so if he wanted to he could offer PONO an album at that resolution, but I suspect he wouldnt want to get involved in trading of music with possibly unknown legal complications. Remember also that scarcely anyone has a listening system that represents all the details that his does. Even old mono jazz recordings sound dimensional on his system, and how is that even possible? > > cheers all, > Dave > > > >> On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:14 AM, c Karma wrote: >> >> Congratulations Dave! If Petersen makes it available to PONO, I'll join up! >> >> How many 2 track tapes are usually struck from the multitrack for mastering? >> Might Bernie Grundman have used this one to score the wax? >> >> Would love a film documenting all of the current and past crop of hot LA >> producers from Perry and Asher to Pharrell brought together to listen on their >> choice of reference headphones, and then discuss. >> >> Your bucket is still half full. Luv to Robin. >> >> CC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:16:42 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1166 Hearing Joni's tapes...I just can't imagine. As an uninformed audiophile, I think I might fall to my knees. I just posted on Twitter last night how much I dislike the digital (iTunes - - MP3) version, not only of my recordings, but everyone's. Tape is golden. My first 3 records we are done analog - "Foreign Affair" in an old radio station in Maribor, Slovenia in 2004. It's coming back, tape that is...I looked into doing it again. It adds a huge expense. However, the biggest issue, if money were not, is that most of the guys that really know how to work with tape are gone. The reason all those old records, Joni's for sure - but even Sinatra, Sarah, Billie, Ella...sound so good (aside from the masterful musicianship) is the tape and the analog echo chambers. Fantasy still has those - I think there are one or two studios in Los Angeles that still have them as well. Those echo chambers are little rooms in a hallway with mics in them - - the sound goes from the board to the rooms, roams around and is sent back to the board. They let me go into the echo chambers at Fantasy. AMAZING. They had to ask me to come back out (I wanted to live in there.) Hearing those tapes will be a spiritual experience. It will go into your bones. Please describe in detail. That, and all the takes, the between takes talking. Goodness. And....I agree...if anyone should have the honor of hearing this, you and Robin have earned your seats. Laurie On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 9 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1166 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Hejira - first generation master [Michael Paz < > michael@thepazgroup.co] > Hejira - first generation master [Dave Blackburn < > beatntrack@att.net>] > RE: DJRD > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: Hejira - first generation master [Jack Merkel < > merk54@aol.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:29:16 -0500 > From: Michael Paz > Subject: Re: Hejira - first generation master > > Awesome. May the gods bless you with a gracefull experience > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Hi all, > > A local audiophile named Kip Peterson has a sound system and playback > environment to die for, with discrete monoblock amps, ribbon speakers the > size > of front doors, an astonishing turntable driven by Kevlar thread from a > mechanically isolated motor, a top of the line CD player with outboard D > to A > converters, and a Studer 2 track half inch tape deck. In addition to a > stunning vinyl and CD collection, Kip has a collection of master tapes of > famous albums that were used to press the vinyl albums from - in other > words > exactly what came out of the mastering studio with the mixes cut together > into > the album. He has just purchased, at great expense, the first generation > analog master tape of Hejira, and has invited Robin and me over tomorrow to > listen through it. For me this is pretty much the Holy Grail, right here in > Fallbrook! > > I think the rest of my bucket list has become irrelevant. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:48:21 -0700 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Hejira - first generation master > > Hi all, > > A local audiophile named Kip Peterson has a sound system and playback > environment to die for, with discrete monoblock amps, ribbon speakers the > size of front doors, an astonishing turntable driven by Kevlar thread from > a mechanically isolated motor, a top of the line CD player with outboard D > to A converters, and a Studer 2 track half inch tape deck. In addition to a > stunning vinyl and CD collection, Kip has a collection of master tapes of > famous albums that were used to press the vinyl albums from - in other > words exactly what came out of the mastering studio with the mixes cut > together into the album. He has just purchased, at great expense, the first > generation analog master tape of Hejira, and has invited Robin and me over > tomorrow to listen through it. For me this is pretty much the Holy Grail, > right here in Fallbrook! > > I think the rest of my bucket list has become irrelevant. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:20:25 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: RE: DJRD > > Well, I remember watching Chris Marshall play the bass part at > Ashara's...as cool as it sounds I think I could play that! > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Couldn't happen to a more deserving couple. > Please fill us in afterwards! > > Jack > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > A local audiophile named Kip Peterson has a sound system and playback > environment to die for, with discrete monoblock amps, ribbon speakers the > size of front doors, an astonishing turntable driven by Kevlar thread from > a mechanically isolated motor, a top of the line CD player with outboard D > to A converters, and a Studer 2 track half inch tape deck. In addition to a > stunning vinyl and CD collection, Kip has a collection of master tapes of > famous albums that were used to press the vinyl albums from - in other > words exactly what came out of the mastering studio with the mixes cut > together into the album. He has just purchased, at great expense, the first > generation analog master tape of Hejira, and has invited Robin and me over > tomorrow to listen through it. For me this is pretty much the Holy Grail, > right here in Fallbrook! > > > > I think the rest of my bucket list has become irrelevant. > > > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1166 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1168 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------