From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1099 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1099 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Library item: CRUCIAL CD COLLECTION: Joni Mitchell [TheStaff@JoniMitc] =?UTF-8?Q?Joni_in_=E2=80=98Saturday_Night_Live=E2=80=99_with_Jo nah_Hill?= [Betsy Blue ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:47:50 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: CRUCIAL CD COLLECTION: Joni Mitchell Title: CRUCIAL CD COLLECTION: Joni Mitchell Publication: Business Day Live (South Africa) Date: 2014.8.18 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2815 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:35:47 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Joni_in_=E2=80=98Saturday_Night_Live=E2=80=99_with_Jo nah_Hill?= I just saw the Jonah Hill episode of Saturday Night Live from January, in which Cecily Strong sang part of Circle Game in a terrible skit. The link is to an episode review, but all you need to know is that "the pointless lampooning of a classic Joni Mitchell song was pure sacrilege!" http://tvline.com/2014/01/26/jonah-hill-host-saturday-night-live-snl-recap-video/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:17:25 +0200 From: Jim Mcmeans Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1097 Ok, back to the Amelia comments. I just flew from Dallas to London on a 747 and was looking down on the patchwork farmland. Also, really didn't plan this because I had joni on shuffle, but I just so happened to hear "I dreamed of 747's over geometric farms." Then clouds got in my way..... The songs were gifts from joni, the timing was a gift from God. Texas Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:34 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Sunday, August 17 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1097 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Joni's best albums vocally [Lori Renee Fye ] > America Is Not For Black People [simon@icu.com] > Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1091 [Catherine McKay ] > A little hint about posts on the JMDL [Lori Renee Fye Joni's best album - vocally. [Bob Muller ] > Re: The windfall (Everything for Nothing) [Catherine McKay > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:20:52 -0600 > From: Lori Renee Fye > Subject: Re: Joni's best albums vocally > > Jim McM asked: > >> This is a tough one, but....what do you think is Joni's best albums >> vocally? Where her voice just penetrates your soul (the most). Yes, >> I know, stupid question, but I lean toward "for the roses". > > I agree with Catherine: It's not a stupid question at all. > > I think the album that blows me away most in a vocal sense is "The Hissing > of Summer Lawns." Joni's voice on a few of the songs on that album just > cut my heart to its core, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. > > Lori, > whose all-time favorite album by anyone ever remains "Hejira," > on a sunny Sunday in Caldwell, Idaho > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:07:58 -0400 > From: simon@icu.com > Subject: America Is Not For Black People > > bWhen ALL The Slaves Are Free?b > > AMERICA IS NOT FOR BLACK PEOPLE > by Greg Howard > Aug. 12, 2014 > > > > The United States of America is not for black people. We know this, and then we put it out of our minds, > and then something happens to remind us. Saturday, in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, Mo., something > like that happened: An unarmed 18-year-old black man was executed by police in broad daylight. > > By now, what's happening in Ferguson is about so many second-order issuesbsystemic racism, > the militarization of police work, and how citizens can redress grievances, > among other thingsbthat it's worth remembering what actually happened here. > > Michael Brown was walking down the middle of the street in Ferguson's Canfield Green apartment > complex around noon on Saturday with his friend Dorin Johnson when the two were approached > by a police officer in a police truck. The officer exchanged words with the boys. The officer attempted > to get out of his car. At this point, two narratives split. > > According to the still-unnamed officer, one of the two boys shoved him back into the vehicle and then > wrestled for his sidearm, discharging one shot into the cabin. The two ran, and the police officer once > again stepped from his vehicle and shot at the fleeing teenagers multiple times, killing Brown. > > According to Johnson and other eye witnesses, however, the cop ordered the friends to "get the fuck > on the sidewalk,b but the teenagers said they had almost reached their destination. That's when the > officer slammed his door open so hard that it bounced off of Brown and closed again. > The cop then reached out and grabbed Brown by the neck, then by the shirt. > > "I'm gonna shoot you," the cop said. > > The cop shot him once, but Brown pulled away, and the pair were still able to run away together. > The officer fired again. Johnson ducked behind a car, but the cop's second shot caused Brown to > stop about 35 feet away from the cruiser, still within touching distance of Johnson. Multiple witnesses > say this is when Brown raised his hands in the air to show he was unarmed. Johnson remembered > that Brown also said, "I don't have a gun, stop shooting!" The officer then shot him dead. > > > Eyewitness: Michael Brown Pleaded bI Donbt Have a Gun, Stop Shooting!b > > Dorian Johnson, a friend of Michael Brown who claims to have been with him when he > was shot andb&Read on gawker.b com > > > > After that, the narratives dovetail again. Brown was left where he died, baking in the Missouri heat for hours, > before he was removed by authorities. The officer was placed on paid administrative leave. > > Michael Brown is not special. In all its specificity, the 18-year old's death remains > just the most recent example of police officers killing unarmed black men. > > Part of the reason we're seeing so many black men killed is that police officers are now best understood > less as members of communities, dedicated to keeping peace within them, than as domestic soldiers. > The drug war has long functioned as a full-employment act for arms dealers looking to sell every town > and village in the country on the need for military-grade hardware, and 9/11 made things vastly worse, > with local police departments throughout America grabbing for cash to better defend against any and > all terrorist threats. War had reached our shores, we were told, and police officers needed weaponry > to fight it. > > Officers have tanks now. They have drones. They have automatic rifles, and planes, and helicopters, > and they go through military-style boot camp training. It's a constant complaint from what remains > of this country's civil liberties caucus. Just this last June, the ACLU issued a report on how police > departments now possess arsenals in need of a use. Few paid attention, as usually happens. > > The worst part of outfitting our police officers as soldiers has been psychological. > Give a man access to drones, tanks, and body armor, and he'll reasonably think that his job isnbt > simply to maintain peace, but to eradicate danger. Instead of protecting and serving, police are > searching and destroying. > > If officers are soldiers, it follows that the neighborhoods they patrol are battlefields. > And if they're working battlefields, it follows that the population is the enemy. And because of correlations, > rooted in historical injustice, between crime and income and income and race, the enemy population will > consist largely of people of color, and especially of black men. Throughout the country, police officers are > capturing, imprisoning, and killing black males at a ridiculous clip, waging a very literal war on people > like Michael Brown. > > > The Case for Reparations > Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal > > .b&Read on The Atlantic.b com > > > > "There's a long history of racial tension and misunderstanding in this region," St. Louis Post-Dispatch > columnist Aisha Sultan told me over the phone yesterday. "Especially on the north side." > > This sort of thingbespecially on the north sidebis what gets glossed over a little too easily when > we try to fit a particular incident into a broader narrative. Ferguson is a small town of 21,000, > mostly white until the 1960s, when whites fled anywhere but where they were. Today, Ferguson, > which is a bit north of St. Louis, is mostly black; Ferguson and St. Louis County police are mostly white. > That fits a metropolitan area flanked by two rivers that divide neighborhoods and regions by race, > the sixth-most segregated in the United States. > > To people, like me, from the coast--I'm from Maryland--St. Louis can seem like a blank in the the > middle of the country, a place where people and even ideas get stuck on the way to somewhere better, > or at least somewhere else. But St. Louis is like New York (the fourth-most segregated metro in America), > or Los Angeles, or Miami, or Dallas, or Washington, DC, only more so. Far from a blank, St. Louis is often > regarded as the most American of America's cities. > > "It is a microcosm of the rest of the country," Sultan said. "If this can happen in St. Louis, it can happen in any city." > > It does. On August 5 in Beavercreek, Ohio, 22-year-old John Crawford was killed in a Walmart when > a toy gun he had picked up from inside the store was apparently mistaken for a real gun. LeeCee Johnson, > who had two children with Crawford, said that she was on the phone with him, and that his last words before > she heard gunshots from police officers were, "It's not real." > > On July 17 in Staten Island, New York, 43-year-old Eric Garner, a well-known presence in the neighborhood > who sold illicit cigarettes and kept an eye on the block, was killed after breaking up a fight when NYPD officer > Daniel Pantaleo used an illegal chokehold on the asthmatic man. > "I can't breathe," he said, before he died. "I can't breathe." > > > "I can't breathe.b > > > On the night of September 14, 2013 in Charlotte, N.C., 24-year-old Jonathan Ferrell was killed > after getting into a car accident. He climbed out of the rear window of the car, stumbled to the > nearest house, and banged on the door for help. The homeowner notified the police, who showed > up to the house. Ferrell was tased, and then an officer named Randall Kerrick shot and struck Ferrell 10 times. > > There was Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., and Oscar Grant in Oakland, Calif., and so many more. > Michael Brownbs death wasn't shocking at all. All over the country, unarmed black men are being > killed by the very people who have sworn to protect them, as has been going on for a very long > time now. It would appear that cops are not for black people, either. > > After Brown's death came his demonization. First, we heard that Brown had run for stealing > candy from a store. Then we were bombarded with a photo of Brown in a red Nike tank top > on a stoop, posing for the camera. > > > This photo, in which Brown was flashing a "gang signb--a peace sign, actually--was > presented as proof that the teenager was a thug; his friends and family now not only > have to work through their grief, but against a posthumous slur campaign. Johnson > described his friend in an MSNBC interview as cool and quiet. Brown's uncle, Bernard > Ewings, said in a Sunday interview that Brown loved music. Brown's mother, Leslie > McSpadden, said that he was funny and could make people laugh. He graduated from > high school in the spring, and was headed to college to pursue a career in heating and > cooling engineering. Monday would have been his first day. > > > > > By all accounts, Brown was One Of The Good Ones. But laying all this out, explaining all the ways > in which he didnbt deserve to die like a dog in the street, is in itself disgraceful. Arguing whether > Brown was a good kid or not is functionally arguing over whether he specifically deserved to die, > a way of acknowledging that some black men ought to be executed. > > To even acknowledge this line of debate is to start a larger argument about the worth, > the very personhood, of a black man in America. It's to engage in a cost-benefit analysis, > weigh probabilities, and gauge the precise odds that Brown's life was worth nothing against > the threat he posed to the life of the man who killed him. It's to deny that there are structural > reasons why Brown was shot dead while James Eagan Holmes--who on July 20, 2012, > walked into a movie theater and fired rounds into an audience, killing 12 and wounding > 70 more--was taken alive. > > To ascribe this entirely to contempt for black men is to miss an essential variable, though--a very real, > American fear of them. Theybwe--are inexplicably seen as a millions-strong army of potential killers, > capable and cold enough that any single one could be a threat to a trained police officer in a bulletproof > vest. There are reasons why white gun's rights activists can walk into a Chipotle restaurant with assault > rifles and be seen as gauche nuisances while unarmed black men are killed for reaching for their wallets > or cell phones, or carrying children's toys. Guns aren't for black people, either. > > Sunday was Brown's vigil, and several hundred people congregated in Ferguson. They began to march > toward the Ferguson police station in protest. Police met them in full riot gear, with rifles, shields, helmets, > dogs, and gas masks. Protesters yelled, "No justice, no peace!" They called the police murderers. > They raised their hands in mock surrender, saying, "Don't shoot, I'm unarmed." > > And then the protest turned violent, as some citizens began to break into, loot, > and set fire to storefronts in their own community. > > Police officers shot tear gas and rubber bullets. Thirty-two people were arrested that night. > Two policemen were injured. There was nothing easy to make of it. It was a senseless and > counterproductive attack on the community; it was the grief-stricken flailing of people who > knew it could have been them, or their friends, or their brothers or sons. Whatever it was, > it was met with force. > > On Monday morning, Sultan went back to Ferguson, where she witnessed citizens cleaning > up debris from the night before. Some were shocked by the violence; others said that theybd > been backed against a wall, forced into necessary evil. Sultan interviewed an 11-year-old boy > about the rioting. "It seems like police are about to go to war with the people," he said. > > > On Monday night, police again took the streets as demonstrators again marched in > nonviolent protest, holding their hands high. Police again fired rubber bullets and tear > gas, and again blocked off the main streets, not allowing anyone in or out. Police were > photographed sweeping into side streets, and pointing guns over fences into backyards. > It spilled over into today. They ran helicopters and drones over all of it; they shot tear > gas; they ran up on citizens with guns drawn. > > > > > "Return to your homes," they yelled over megaphones. > > "This is our home," the people of Ferguson answered. There wasnbt--there isnbt--much more to say. > > > > > > > AndSoItGoes, > - - - - - - - - - > simonM > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:28:24 -0700 > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1091 > > It's not a stupid question at all, and I'm surprised no one has responded yet, > but there ya go! It's hard for me to distinguish between her voice (as in > vocal abilities/range) affect me and where her voice (what she has to say, how > it affects me) > > However, in terms of her vocal ability, I think the two that > affect me most are the "Mingus" voice and the "DJRD" voice, and I think it's > because these are two albums I didn't get until much later. For some reason, I > wasn't listening to Joni at the time those two came out, so I never bought > either of them until maybe 15 years ago. I guess by this point I had already > heard the older Joni voice, so these two, when I heard them, really blew me > away. From DJRD, it was particularly the song "Cotton Avenue" that affected > me. > > However, you have mentioned "For the roses" which, in many ways, is one > of my favourites. It came as quite a departure from Joni's earlier albums, in > my mind, AND it was the first album where a songbook came out that actually > used her real tunings, and therefore the first time I was able to learn to > play them as Joni played them, and the album has remained one of my favourites > all along. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jim Mcmeans > > To: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Friday, > August 15, 2014 11:29:50 PM > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1091 > > > Ok joni > fans. This is a tough one, but....what do you think is Joni's best albums > vocally? Where her voice just penetrates your soul (the most). Yes, I know, > stupid question, but I lean toward "for the roses". > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:33:52 -0600 > From: Lori Renee Fye > Subject: A little hint about posts on the JMDL > > I'm not marking this N*JC on purpose because I'd like for everyone to see > it. > > When replying to a digest post, if you can edit the subject to either > reference the original subject or create an entirely new subject it will > help a lot in terms of getting your post noticed. > > I tend to skip over a lot of the posts that begin with "Re: JMDL Digest > V2014 # ..." and if I do it then I'm pretty sure that others do the same > thing. > > I know a lot of people are posting from their mobile devices and it may be > difficult to edit a subject. In that case I'd suggest just creating a > brand new post with an appropriate subject. > > Happy posting! > > Lori > Caldwell, Idaho > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:19:32 -0700 > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Joni's best album - vocally. > > what do you think is Joni's best albums vocally? > > > From a technical singing perspective, I vote for Mingus. From an emoting perspective, I would say Blue. > > Bob > > NP: Led Zeppelin, "The Girl I Love She Got Long" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:03:42 -0700 > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: The windfall (Everything for Nothing) > > True, and what I always heard, and yet I like Dave's version too. Still, imagine being rich enough to buy your housekeeper a car! Or, for that matter, being rich enough to HAVE a housekeeper. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lori Renee Fye > To: Susan E. McNamara > Cc: Dave Blackburn ; Marianne Rizzo ; JMDL JMDL > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 2:18:05 PM > Subject: Re: The windfall (Everything for Nothing) > > > > > >> This may be a mondegreen but I always thought that >> line was "because Elvis gave 'em cars, you think I'm >> cheap!" > > That's the line printed in the lyrics. > > Lori > Caldwell, Idaho > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1097 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1099 ****************************** ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------