From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #951 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 4 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 951 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Why Furry now? [Catherine McKay ] Re: Why Furry now? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Why Furry now? [Gerald Kent ] New Library item: Wayne Shorter on Joni Mitchell's jazz [TheStaff@JoniMit] Re: Why Furry now? [Shari Eaton ] A Case of You key? [Steve Dulson ] Re: Why Furry now? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Why Furry now? [Bob Muller ] Re: A Case of You key? [Victor Johnson ] a good slave loves the good book [Shari Eaton ] Re: Why Furry now? [Anita ] for anyone with a Roland VG-8 or VG-99 [Josh Eubank ] Re: Why Furry now? [Betsy Blue ] MORE: Creative Joni - will create the libretto, set designs, and soundtrack [Michael quebec ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Why Furry now? I don't think you're over-analyzing. I think Joni feels more in common now with Furry, whether it's conscious or subconscious. Maybe she gets him more now that she's probably around the same age he was when she met him. But I also agree with whoever mentioned that she likes doing voice impressions. I noticed she did a lot of that both at the TimeTalk and at the concert. I've always loved the poetry of that song. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim L'Hommedieu > To: JMDL > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 10:04:25 AM > Subject: Re: Why Furry now? > >> Why Furry now?> > > 1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true > though. In the > song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In > interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. > > Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's > not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. > > 2. Furry was ill in his old age. He lost a leg along the way. Joni has > gone through many health battles too. > > Maybe I'm over analyzing. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Columbus, OH, US ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 10:04:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Why Furry now? >Why Furry now?> 1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true though. In the song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. 2. Furry was ill in his old age. He lost a leg along the way. Joni has gone through many health battles too. Maybe I'm over analyzing. Jim L'Hommedieu Columbus, OH, US ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:39:40 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Why Furry now? Joni mention on Wendy Williams show by comedian Kathy Griffin. Subject was joni being at Jane Fonda's birthday party. Just sayin! Sent from my iPad On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:04 AM, "Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > >Why Furry now?> > > 1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true though. In the song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. > > Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. > > 2. Furry was ill in his old age. He lost a leg along the way. Joni has gone through many health battles too. > > Maybe I'm over analyzing. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Columbus, OH, US ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:48:10 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Wayne Shorter on Joni Mitchell's jazz Title: Wayne Shorter on Joni Mitchell's jazz Publication: CBC Music Date: 2013.6.18 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2630 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:39:00 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Why Furry now? He has people in the sense that they're around but Furry was grumpy and guarded. Joan's take on it is that the whole scene has gone to hell .. only carrion and mercy that are left. She might not have created a documentary but more of a film. Shari On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > I read an interview with Furry, published in Playboy (April 1970) on > jonimitchell.com this morning. In it, Furry calls out to his wife, > Versie. I didn't catch the difference between the woman in Joni's song > and the wife in his home. > > In the article, a neighbor is visiting Furry when the author arrives. > > Furry wasn't really alone. Although Joni might style herself as alone, > I think maybe "closer to the truth to say" she's lonely. > > Jim L'Hommedieu >> closer to the truth to say >> you can't get enough >> you're gonna have to face it >> you're addicted to love > > > On 7/4/2013 11:40 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >> Just one small note - Jenny in the song is Furry's neighbor, not his >> wife. Obviously, when Joni sings "Ol' Furry's got nooobody" she >> singing it as Furry singing about himself, not as Joni singing about him. >> >> *From:* Jim L'Hommedieu >> **1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true though. In the >> song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In >> interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. >> >> Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's >> not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:17:46 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: A Case of You key? What key is this played in on the Blue album? *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:50:36 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Why Furry now? I read an interview with Furry, published in Playboy (April 1970) on jonimitchell.com this morning. In it, Furry calls out to his wife, Versie. I didn't catch the difference between the woman in Joni's song and the wife in his home. In the article, a neighbor is visiting Furry when the author arrives. Furry wasn't really alone. Although Joni might style herself as alone, I think maybe "closer to the truth to say" she's lonely. Jim L'Hommedieu >closer to the truth to say >you can't get enough >you're gonna have to face it >you're addicted to love On 7/4/2013 11:40 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Just one small note - Jenny in the song is Furry's neighbor, not his > wife. Obviously, when Joni sings "Ol' Furry's got nooobody" she > singing it as Furry singing about himself, not as Joni singing about him. > > *From:* Jim L'Hommedieu > **1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true though. In the > song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In > interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. > > Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's > not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Why Furry now? Interesting, Jim - on the JMDL there's no such thing as over-analyzing. Just one small note - Jenny in the song is Furry's neighbor, not his wife. Obviously, when Joni sings "Ol' Furry's got nooobody" she singing it as Furry singing about himself, not as Joni singing about him. I don't believe Joni performed Furry on her '98 tour, though she did lots of Hejira songs on the tour. Seems a bit funny given her affection for it. Bob ________________________________ From: Jim L'Hommedieu To: JMDL Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Why Furry now? >Why Furry now?> 1. Joni said, "Ol' Furry's got no-body." It wasn't true though. In the song, Furry had a woman, "for his kindness and Furry's beer". In interviews, Furry's wife is always close by. Anyway, Joni thought he was alone. If we believe her interviews, she's not dating anymore. Ol' Joni's got no body. 2. Furry was ill in his old age. He lost a leg along the way. Joni has gone through many health battles too. Maybe I'm over analyzing. Jim L'Hommedieu Columbus, OH, US ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:45:32 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: A Case of You key? C# On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Steve Dulson wrote: > What key is this played in on the Blue album? > > *************************************************** > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:13:40 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: a good slave loves the good book Hello, It occurs to me that Joni is seen as a threat to Christianity. While she does value the Bible and in particular the Corinthian's love description, her favorite passage is of Job doubting God. As obvious as this is, I have only realized that this is why a majority of people turn away from her. Publicly she is forever aligned to the beliefs and religious practices of a hippy. My Mom married five times in her life and subsequently dragged us kids through a number of religious beliefs. She went from Christian to Born Again Christian to Catholic to Buddhist to hedonistic Judaism and finally feels most closely aligned to Reggie Ray's (anti?)buddhist ideas about valuing the body experience. So I wasn't even given the chance to align myself to one or the other. My *religion* was a smoothie of beliefs and ideas about the human emotional experience. I saw them all as an outsider and pruned these belief structures to suit my personal philosophies. Joni's snappy retort about the line of cocaine laid out and ready for her: "this is my God and this is my prayer" is so punk isn't it? She has the courage of an atheist but the attitude, style and grace of a poet, a worshipper of nature, craft and insight. I read in the youtube comments of one of her Johnny Cash era performances: "I like this era of Joni the best." Her country stint was her chance to be accepted by Christians. But she was sent to help the outsiders and the lost ones, not those already found. Just when you're getting a taste for worship They start bringing out the hammers And the boards And the nails Anyway, she helped me accept myself as a good person despite not being dedicated to one religious belief. Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 23:49:02 +0100 From: Anita Subject: Re: Why Furry now? > I like that 'seeing something of myself in everyone' link, thanks > > Anita > > On 3 Jul 2013, at 21:11, shadows and light wrote: > >> yeah, i've been thinking about this too and lean towards the: "I see something of myself in everyone." interpretation. joni singing about heydays long gone. joni and furry merging. ying and yang. >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Anita wrote: >> On 3 Jul 2013, at 17:27, >> "It seems such a clash Joni (the intellectual artisit) and Furry (the withered showman in decline) "Clint >> >> And there is Joni now. Some see her today as the withered show woman. Betsy mentioned Joni loving doing impressions. The 'I don't like you' has always been powerful. I think Furry resonates for Joni in all kinds of ways. sharing a cigarette and or champagne seems to have worked well recently for those recently wanting to say hi to Joni. (Though I do believe we are welcome for slightly more than just our drink and smoke.) >> Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:12:43 -0400 From: Josh Eubank Subject: for anyone with a Roland VG-8 or VG-99 Does anyone know what sound Joni used when playing the Roland? She only referred to it as like a "modified strat sound." I was just wondering if anyone knows what the patch was called. Does the VG-99 still have it? Thanks and happy fourth of July to all. - -- Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:04:06 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Re: Why Furry now? Don't let Joni catch you calling her an intellectual! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 23:27:15 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: MORE: Creative Joni - will create the libretto, set designs, and soundtrack This begs the question doesn't it, dancing love and Joni, which songs ? Here's my go at it: Love A Case of You Night Ride Home Both Sides Now Jericho If I Had a King Cactus Tree All I Want See you Sometime Woman of Heart and Mind Help Me Blue Motel Room Down to You Amelia Be Cool Lucky Girl Wow, the possibilities are thrilling ! Michael in Quebec Anita wrote:Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:03:14 +0100 From: Anita Subject: Re: MORE Creative Joni - "will create the libretto, set designs, and soundtrack" Tickets on sale August 1st for the myriad of ballet fans who share my love of that particular art form. Can't wait for the exciting ballet thread to kick off, probably about what Love songs Joni has chosen for the ballet......:-)) Anita On 2 Jul 2013, at 20:25, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > From the Alberta Ballet > > "Ms. Mitchell will create the libretto, the set designs, and the > soundtrack." Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:14:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato Recordings I don't know how much time the band had to rehearse, but it's probably not as long as you might think. I spoke to Liam Titcomb after the show and he said he had only an hour (or maybe it was half an hour) with the band. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at that. Even if you have the music and you've rehearsed on your own, just knowing your own cues and when to come in must be pretty daunting. I also agree with you about Lizz Wright. She was a complete revelation to me. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Muller > To: JMDL > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:52:22 PM > Subject: Luminato Recordings > > Listening now - these are OMG jaw-dropping wonderful. Lizz Wright gets the > gold star in my opinion but all of these are really great - even the Rufus > tracks and I'm not a fan of his voice. The band was razor sharp and so > well-rehearsed. Tight and loose at the same time. Love the arrangement of > "If" > and Liam in general, very Sting-ish. > Lizz Wright - you have my permission to > do a full album of Joni. (She did a studio version of "Fiddle And The > Drum" on > Danilo Perez' record several years back.) > I can only imagine what the vibe > must have been listening live, surrounded by fellow JMDLers. > These will all be > included in a future covers volume. > > Bob ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #951 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------