From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #911 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, June 29 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 911 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fwd: Subject: elusive instrument used by Joni on Taming the Tiger album and 1998 Painting with words and music, and concert in Bethal NY [] Re: YouTube 'Furry' from Luminato [LC Stanley ] Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki [Shari Eaton ] Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki [Michael Paz ] RE: Hejira pronunciation ["Robert Sartorius" ] Re: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! [Catherine McKay ] Walecki benefit (njc) [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Stage as living room, njc [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: This Rain, This Rain [Catherine McKay ] Re: Walecki benefit (njc) so njc [shadows and light ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:37:50 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Fwd: Subject: elusive instrument used by Joni on Taming the Tiger album and 1998 Painting with words and music, and concert in Bethal NY > Josh, you said in part, >> I have > been trying to figure this out for years. Joni uses an instrument > that I've never > heard before... I always just assumed it was a guitar but > a friend of mine > thinks it's a mandelin ... I'm > blind, and have been > since birth, so I'm really in tune with sound...> > > Welcome to the discussion list, Josh. I'd say you have a good ear! I don't play but I listen deeply; maybe you can identify with that. > > The Roland VG-8 was capable of doing several things. If I recall my history, you can use it in standard tuning to get very unusual sounds. Joni had a setting, or "patch" that she called "crystal" which she used in a song called "Harlem In Havana". To her, it sounds like a carnival and she built a latter-day miracle out of that patch, adding a vivid childhood memory. She put that song on a compilation of her influences, on Hear Music. > > When the Roland representative was teaching Joni about the VG-8, he talked at length about the voicings available in standard tuning. As the discussion was winding down, he mentioned that a user could also use the voicings to store alternate tunings. > > Joni pounced on the tunings feature, as you can tell. > > The only down side is that you can use only that one guitar voice that you hear on the concert DVD that you already know. > > Here is a link to a You Tube video where a guitarist demonstrates several different voicings made possible at the press of a switch, by the Roland VG-8. It is a flat metal box with controls on top. I guess most people use foot switches, plugged into the box, to change the sounds. > > http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/442 > > Jim in Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: YouTube 'Furry' from Luminato I'm going back thru looking at the Luminato videos. My computer wasn't working right so I couldn't see them very good. Thanks for posting this Mark. Wow. Wow. incredible I hope she sings more. She CAN!!! This is very touching, especially because Little Rock is only a few hours from Memphis, and I know it well. It is a short drive for teenagers from Little Rock to explore the musical history there so I did. The blues. Strange place, Memphis. I know just what she's talking about. I almost went to Toronto and would have gone this night if I could have, but I couldn't get away from the little restaurant we opened. There's got to be a next time for her to sing. I'm so grateful to see this video! Thank you! Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Mark To: joni Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:12 PM Subject: YouTube 'Furry' from Luminato Somebody has probably already sent this, but here is the whole performance of 'Furry' with a bit of Joni's story about it at the beginning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qhJHY05rX8 Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:59:07 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki I saw her play with this system at the jazz fest in new Orleans in 1995. Is this the debut jazz show you're referring to? Shari On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > short comment. I think it was Fred that set her up with the VG-8 with a Strat > and and then he got her the Parker Fly with a Piezo pick up in it and > installed the GK-2a interface on he guitar and kept the weight under 2 1/2 > pounds. I met the guy (Gary White) from Roland (at the time) that programmed > the VG in her hotel room the night before the Jazz Fest show where she debuted > the system. I have a copy of all those patches still. What fun!!! The strat > was too heavy for her. I own a Concert Fly and a Deluxe Fly by Parker. I am > looking to trade the Deluxe for a Turner Guitar like Lindsay Buckingham plays. > Have always loved the sounds he gets from that instrument. > More later > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:56 PM, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > Bob and all, > > Fred Walecki is still with us! He did battle throat cancer several > years ago but recovered and is still involved in the musical instrument > business. Heard through the grapevine that he still makes "house calls" > to maintain Joni's guitars ;-) > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:03:03 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki Yes. She literally got the system the day before and programmed it in her room the night before. When she did that opening number the sound man at front of house console did not know what hit him. It was distorted and huge and it scared the shit out of the 30,000 people that were in front of the stage, It was kinda sad that by the time she ended the show there was only about 5000 of use left. They were looking to hear the hits and she was playing what she wanted to and as usual totally confused and underwhelmed the unwashed.... Home sweet home and its medication time... Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: I saw her play with this system at the jazz fest in new Orleans in 1995. Is this the debut jazz show you're referring to? Shari On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > short comment. I think it was Fred that set her up with the VG-8 with a Strat > and and then he got her the Parker Fly with a Piezo pick up in it and > installed the GK-2a interface on he guitar and kept the weight under 2 1/2 > pounds. I met the guy (Gary White) from Roland (at the time) that programmed > the VG in her hotel room the night before the Jazz Fest show where she debuted > the system. I have a copy of all those patches still. What fun!!! The strat > was too heavy for her. I own a Concert Fly and a Deluxe Fly by Parker. I am > looking to trade the Deluxe for a Turner Guitar like Lindsay Buckingham plays. > Have always loved the sounds he gets from that instrument. > More later > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:56 PM, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > Bob and all, > > Fred Walecki is still with us! He did battle throat cancer several > years ago but recovered and is still involved in the musical instrument > business. Heard through the grapevine that he still makes "house calls" > to maintain Joni's guitars ;-) > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 00:52:25 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: RE: Hejira pronunciation Gary Z replied to Sue: "Hi Sue, Here's a video where Joni talks about Hejira (from "Painting with Words and Music"). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA6HGN1crNU" Perfect, Gary ! I have, of course, viewed this concert a dozen times or so, but could not pinpoint it as my source. In addition to the "Joni pronunciation", it includes her confession that she got the title while browsing through the dictionary ("not that she does that, or that there is anything wrong with that") ;-) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! So far, here's what's up: The fiddle and the drum - Lizz Wright Coyote - Glen Hansard You turn me on - Kathleen Edwards If - Liam Titcomb Shades of Scarlett - Lizz Wright The wold that lives in Lindsey - Lizz Wright Both Sides Now - Esperanza Spalding All I want - Rufus W A case of you - Rufus More to come! >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST ; Les Irvin >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:00:56 PM >Subject: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! > > > >Yippee! Some of the songs are already there on CBC's website. Past experience tells me they will add them as they process them: > > > >http://music.cbc.ca/#/concerts/Joni-A-Portrait-in-Song-presented-by-Luminato-Festival-2013-06-19 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:48:45 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell's Guitars and Tunings Title: Joni Mitchell's Guitars and Tunings Publication: The Unique Guitar Blog Date: 2013.1.29 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2617 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:06:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Liam Titcomb, "If" on Youtube Just found this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLe8whyTqUk&feature=youtu.be ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:54:52 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Walecki benefit (njc) Oh Lesli, you were polite, of course! It just always amazes me that I didn't know it was you until years later. Wish you weren't a lurker then and we all could have known you sooner! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:02:52 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Stage as living room, njc When csny were doing their stadium shows (circa 1974-5?) they had some furniture on stage. I remember a cigar store Indian too. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain And it has already been fixed. Les, you rock! >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: Jamie Zubairi Home ; Les Irvin ; Vincenzo >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:18:49 PM >Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain > > > >By george, I think you've got it! I've listened to both versions and it does sound more like "New York" than "in Europe." I didn't see a problem with Europe earlier, because I thought she was saying that she hates big buildings, but it definitely does sound more like "New York" to me. (And she might still hate big buildings. Also, for what it's worth, Carr spent time in both New York and Europe.) > > > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Jamie Zubairi Home >>To: Marianne Rizzo ; Catherine McKay >>Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >>Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:54:32 PM >>Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain >> >> >>Listening to the first night (Catherine's video) and a clearer audio from >>the second night I'd like to suggest an amendment to Vincenzo's good work. >>There are a few small word differences between the two nights. On the first >>night she omits 'Soulless' from 'soulless trees' but both nights I think >>she says 'New York' and not 'in Europe'. >> >>I think it makes more sense that it's New York, with its skyscrapers. I've >>never seen Europe (and I guess I mean 'the Continent' ;-) as having many >>skyscrapers, certainly not significantly during much of Emily Carr's >>lifetime. Much changed now though. >> >> ... >> >> All big cities make me sick, >> Except New York, I don't know why. >> Big buildings stretching up brick by brick. >> Like my cedar groves, they >> scrape that sky. >> It doesn't rain like this back there. >> Oh, it rains enough, >> just enough to wash the air >> and sweep the litter off the street. >> But THIS rain, Oh, >> This rain will not be beat >> >>.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:15:58 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: Walecki benefit (njc) so njc just a luddite, back then, no conscious lurking. it amazed me to see you. you were standing in front of the mirror and started to walk away. i was thinking could that be the woman i'd seen in the jonifest pictures?? i had to say something! whenever i'd tried to join the list, it hadn't gone through. but i think i'd been reading wally's site from the start. i wish i would have met all of you all sooner too. each and every person on the list brings something wonderful to savor to the table. i don't post enough and thank folks, but now's as good opportunity. thanks, folks On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:54 PM, wrote: > Oh Lesli, you were polite, of course! It just always amazes me that I > didn't know it was you until years later. Wish you weren't a lurker > then and we all could have known you sooner! > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 15:12:30 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki NJC i hope i said: " Excuse me, are you kakki?" and i was so pleased to meet a lister. it was a wonderful benefit. you could feel the love. i think it was advertised as a gathering of the tribe. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM, wrote: > Correction - the benefit was in August 2000. Thanks forever to Simon > who couldn't go and very generously gave me his 3rd row ticket and > backstage VIP party pass! I got most of the musicians, Fred and Henry > Diltz to autograph the poster for Simon. What a night. Funny side > story - in the Ladies room a woman came up to me and said "Are you > Kakki?" She had seen my photo on the old JMDL site. Years later I > found out the woman was our very own Lesli - haha! Kindred Joni > spirits. > > > > Kakki > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 02:06 PM, [1]kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > Yeah, that was the 1999 benefit for Fred to help him with his medical > bills. Bunch of us were there. Probably the most astounding benefit > concert I've ever attended. Reunions of the original Byrds, original > Eagles, Spinal Tap, Bonnie Raitt, Emmylou Harris, Graham Nash, Jackson > Browne, Ry Cooder, Warren Zevon, Colin Hay and more. Dayam! Of > course, we were all hoping that Joni would be there and perform but, > alas, no. Still way worth it for the Byrds reunion alone! > > > > Kakki > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:kbhla@fastmail.fm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:00:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! Yippee! Some of the songs are already there on CBC's website. Past experience tells me they will add them as they process them: http://music.cbc.ca/#/concerts/Joni-A-Portrait-in-Song-presented-by-Luminato-Festival-2013-06-19 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:07:14 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Furry is Furious at Joni Furry Lewis is Furious at Joni by Mark Seal [Rolling Stone] February 24, 1977 MEMPHIS - There's an electrical wire hanging down in front of bluesman Furry Lewis' small, olive green duplex. It drapes across his front porch, and Furry is so worried about it he can hardly get drunk and have fun with the people who have come to visit, "Somebody call up the 'lectric department to fix that thing!" he yells, sitting in the bed that has become his stage and pouring a dose of Ten High bourbon into a well-worn shot glass. "l know I've always been a rascal, but I ain't never done nothin' bad enough to be in the 'lectric chair." Age and cataracts have dulled Furry's eyesight - though not his feisty spirit - - and his public appearances have been whittled down to a cherished few, but Furry's still got the world at his bedside. Guests, from young neighborhood kids seeking guitar lessons to celebrities, stream into his three-room flat. Lewis played his slide-driven, talking guitar blues with the father of the blues, W.C Handy, on Beale Street in the early 1900s. Today, the street is crumbling, and a small statue of Handy toting a horn overlooks the ruins. To Furry Lewis, Beale Street was "where somebody was killed every Saturday night and born every Sunday." At arm's reach from his bed, Furry's got all his daily necessities: battered Martin electric guitar and small amp, two half gallons of Ten High, a .38 revolver stashed inside a drawer, his walking stick, a teddy bear and a cigar box labeled "Business". "I'm 83 years old half blind and gots a wooden leg," he says. "But I sure gots a lot of friends. " But Furry's got his problems, too. Just a few weeks ago, he explains, he played at a local club and still hasn't been paid. And then there's "that woman" who recorded a song about him. The song, "Furry Sings the Blues," is on Joni Mitchell's latest album, Hejira. In it, Mitchell paints Furry "down and out in Memphis, Tennessee," and his music "mostly muttering now and sideshow spiel." She had visited the aging bluesman and the pitiful situation on Beale Street had led her to write: Furry sings the blues Fallin' to hard luck And time and other thieves While our limo is shining on his shanty street. Old Furry sings the blues. "The way I feel" says Furry "is that your name is proper only to you, and when you use it you should get results from it. She shouldn't have used my name in no way, shape, form or faction without consultin' me 'bout it first. The woman came over here and I treated her right, just like I does everybody that comes over. She wanted to hear 'bout the old days, said it was for her own personal self, and I told it to her like it was, gave her straight oil from the can." He stares at the surrealistic photo on the Hejira cover. "But then she goes and puts it all down on a record, using my name and not giving me nothing! I can't stop nobody from talkie' 'bout Beale Street, 'cause the street belongs to everybody. But when she says 'Furry,' well that belongs to me!" (Though Joni Mitchell had no response to Furry's comments, her manager, Elliot Roberts, responded: "All she said about him was, 'Furry sings the blues' the rest is about the neighborhood. She doesn't even mention his last name. She really enjoyed meeting him, and wrote about her impressions of the meeting, He did tell her that he didn't like her, but we can't pay him royalties for that. I don't pay royalties to everybody who says they don't like me. I'd go broke.") Still, Furry can't deny the truths of "Furry Sings the Blues," with its references to Beale Street's doom, that "history falls/ To parking lots and shopping malls." "They only make a statue of you when you dead and gone," Furry says. "I've known a whole lots of musicianers in my life and lots of 'em are dead now. But I guess that Handy's the only one that's ant a statue of him. But then I ain't gone yet. "Now I know I ain't a star," he says, reaching for his glass and winking with a wise old grin "But I sure might be a moon." ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #911 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------