From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #851 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 26 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 851 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Paul Simon [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:51:59 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Paul Simon Yes, Michel, but Joni abandoned the "long line" right after Mingus when she and Klein tried their hand at being en vogue and wrote snappy pop songs with a big beat and shorter phrases. Graceland and Rhythm of the Saints hadn't happened yet so she didn't abandon her lyric style because of THOSE PS albums. It smacks to me of some petty rivalry that has morphed into a claim that raises eyebrows in interviews. She wasn't even the first songwriter to cram lots of words into a line though she may think she was; Todd Rundgren and Peter Hammill (of the English prog band Van der Graaf Generator) were doing it years before Joni. I do find her Paul Simon claim disingenuous and mean spirited towards a colleague, who had quite an established songwriting career while Joni was writing her first song! Dave On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Michel BYRNE wrote: > I agree, Dave, that the Paul Simon claim has always seemed pretty > preposterous, as well as demeaning to a fellow songwriter (and a great one at > that). It first surfaced in public in an interview between Joni and Elvis > Costello, in the '90s, I think. Unless, of course, Joni heard from some > credible source that Simon was influenced by her. > Perhaps this is just Joni's very idiosyncratic (and egocentric!) way of saying > that she consciously changed her own lyric style in reaction to Paul Simon's > overloading (in the 1990 Rhythm of the Saints, for example)... > M ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #851 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------