From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #806 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, June 20 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 806 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Piano lessons [Catherine McKay ] Re: luminato interview [Anita G ] RE: TimesTalks conversation ["Richard Flynn" ] lurker [Paul Ivice ] Re: Joni's paradox [LC Stanley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Piano lessons Here's a link to a short clip excerpted from Joni's Luminato TimeTalks event. If you've seen the whole talk, you've already seen this. Joni talks about piano lessons. I remember very well from my own piano lessons when I was six or seven the tunes she sings. They're from the classic "Teaching little fingers to play" book that my siblings and I started out with. Both tunes are played with the right hand, using only the first three notes of the C major scale. The first one goes: "Here we go, up a row, to a birthday party," starting from C and going up to E (C-D-E, C-D-E, D-C-D-E-C-C.) The second goes, "Dolly dear, Sandman's here, you will soon be sleeping." It uses the same notes, but descending from E to C. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/arts-video/video-joni-mitchells-painful-c hildhood-piano-lessons/article12597560/ Many of the things you learn at age six, you keep all your life, and I've always remembered those two first piano tunes. My piano teacher didn't smack people with a ruler, but she did have a knitting needle that she'd tap your wrists with if you lowered them too much. Today's piano teachers, or depending on where they were trained, apparently don't insist on this raised wrists as much, as I learned when I took a piano class for people who took piano as kids but gave it up later and want to try it again. Freedom to move the body and not sit ramrod straight with raised wrists! The blog linked below has a picture of the book as it looked then. It still exists, believe it or not, but it has been brought more up to date. In the blog, the writer quotes something that sounds like what Joni has also said: 'Lesson #3: bThe piano ainbt got no wrong notes. bThelonious Monk' http://greenbough.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/5-lessons-from-teaching-little-fin gers-to-play/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:00:51 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: luminato interview I shall look forward to the poem. When Steph and I did a big trip around BC two years ago, we visited Victoria and went to the Emily Carr house and gallery in Victoria. It will be most interesting having really enjoyed Carr's paintings (especially of the Haida Gwai) and the very strange story of her life it will be fascinating to see what impact this has had on Joni and this poem. I know being intrigued by Emily Carr having a pet crow and thinking of Black Crow at the time. As for the mention of Ruby Lake, it was lovely to really know that Joni had enjoyed it so much and to think that conversation about cheekbones had gone there is really very cool! Anita On 17/06/2013, Catherine McKay wrote: > I would say it's definitely THAT movie. She mentioned that being blonde and > having cheekbones wasn't enough. > > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Rose >>To: Cassy >>Cc: JMDL >>Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:43:55 AM >>Subject: Re: luminato interview >> >> >>The Cogrossi family posted about how humbled they were for the mention on >> Facebook. >> >>Rosie >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Cassy" wrote: >> >>> Ohh she said she bsquelchedb a movie about her >>> >>> bI called the producer and told him bif you make this itbs going to be a >>> piece of shit.bb >>> >>> I wonder if this is the movie with Taylor Swift allegedly playing her? >>> >>> She then went on to talk about Georgio and Ruby Lake... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:53:11 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: TimesTalks conversation You can watch and download the talk here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8VQgRnghb8 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of shadows and light Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:27 AM To: Catherine McKay Cc: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST Subject: Re: TimesTalks conversation kudos to all of you who are making this accessible to those that can't be there. continuing to be inspired by joni and all of you. lesli On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Was at the TimesTalks thing tonight, close enough to Joni to inhale > her second-hand smoke. I will hand it to her - she waited an hour > before emptying her purse to look for them. > > Joni was in fine spirits and full of humour. She took a picture of the > audience at the end. > > I have posted pictures to Facebook for anyone who's on it and is my > "friend" of the Facebook variety. I tried uploading them to Flickr, > but they seem to have disappeared from there, despite my having spent > at least half an hour working on naming them. FU, Flickr! Will try > again later, but too tired now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: lurker LuAnn Lancton wrote: Paz is going to freakin' pass out when he sees this post, as I've been a jmdl member since about 1998 or '99 and have never posted. Yes, I am The Ultimate Lurker. :) No, you WERE The Ultimate Lurkerr. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: Joni's paradox Hi Jim, I get what you are saying. I would add that it is her own unique Joni eye for detail. And to draw from her explanation of art, she is able to bring the "real" into the realm of "artificial;" and when she sees what she sees and then I see what she paints or hear what she sings, I'm moved even more than by the experience of the real thing she painted or sang about. Her artificial brings illumination to the real. What is imprinted in my mind comes more to life after seeing her paintings or hearing her songs. The beauty of this is even in the way she talks. She communicates so beautifully regardless of the medium. Joni's gift in my experience is communication. What she gives affects my brain chemistry in a powerful way and that is where the reality of her art occurs. She makes use of the brilliant color of illusion, and what she sings or paints becomes more vivid than life, or love, or clouds to me. That is Joni's paradox in my experience. Love, Laura ________________________________ From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" To: JMDL Cc: Dave Blackburn Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: Joni's paradox Dave Blackburn said in part, " It is almost a conundrum that her painter's "eye for detail" led her to be a brilliant and original songwriter but not a painter of the same order of magnitude." Now me. Yeah, I've thought about that too. Now I see the paradox backwards and it makes more sense. Joni doesn't have a painter's eye for detail any more than she has a photographer's eye for detail, or a water colorist's eye for detail, or a felt pen user's eye for detail, or a poet's eye for detail. She has an artist's eye for detail. It is a deeply ingrained attribute that is some sort of source or Muse. All of the songs and the paintings are projections from that source. The Muse is, in some miraculous way, agnostic to media. Jim L'Hommedieu in sunny and spectacular Ohio, near the middle of the deeply flawed USA ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #806 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------