From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #640 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 30 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 640 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Luminato events, Joni-related and other [Mike and Patti Haskins ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Michael Paz ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Dave Blackburn ] RE: Techie geeks, you'll like this. ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. ["Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Luminato events, Joni-related and other Oh I so wish I had the $$$ to go. You all make me so envious. Have loads of Joni fun for me. Patti Haskins ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Jonilist Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 3:46:41 PM Subject: Luminato events, Joni-related and other Events in Toronto in the time around Luminato. Many of the events for both NXNE and Luminato are free events. Just thought I'd pass these on for anyone who's coming for the Joni event. The Joni-related events: Sunday, June 16 - - 6:00-7:30 p.m. Times Talks - Joni Mitchell and Brian Blade in conversation with Jon Pareles of the New York Times (tickets $35) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/timestalks-Joni-Mitchell-and-Brian-Bl ade Monday, June 17 - 12 noon - 115 p.m. Lunchtime illumination - Nicholas Jennings, Murray McLauchlan & Sylvia Tyson - This is a free event http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/lunchtime-illuminations-yorkville Description: " It's Yorkville in the 1960s. Nicholas Jennings worked behind the counter at the Riverboat Coffeehouse where he saw some of the earliest performances of Neil Young, Bruce Cockburn, Joni Mitchell and Murray McLauchlan. He joins McLauchlan and Sylvia Tyson to talk about the era that brought to light some of the most amazing musical talents of our times. The perfect appetizer for the Joni Mitchell celebration at Massey Hall on June 18 and 19." Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19 Joni: A portrait in song (two nights - when last I checked, there seemed to still be tickets left in the gallery) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/joni-portrait-song More events around that time, if anyone's in Toronto. Tuesday, June 11 - Patty Griffin - Danforth Music Hall - http://thedanforth.com/ (tickets $36.50 plus service charges and I believe there are still tickets left. I have my ticket) Friday, June 14, 9:30-10:30 p.m. - The National - Yonge-Dundas Square (part of North by NorthEast Festival) http://nxne.com/2013/yds-friday-june-14th/ - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 15 - 3:00-4:00 - Sarah Harmer - The Hub, David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/sarah-harmer - - This is a FREE concert Sunday, June 16 - 0:00-10:00 p.m. - Laurie Anderson - - The Hub at David Pecaut Square - http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson - - This is a FREE concert Thursday, June 20 - 9-10 p.m. Patrick Watson, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/patrick-watson - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 22 - 9-10 p.m. Roseanne Cash, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/roseanne-cash - - This is a FREE concert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:52:02 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Luminato taking shape I will be in on tour in Canada with Zachary Richard. We will be in Vancouver ion June 14and 15. Travel to Montreal on 16th and be there thru the 20th. We play the 19th so I will miss that show. I AM off on the 18th. Anyone driving in from Montreal? I looked into train service and it appears feasible for me to make this show on the 18th. I am looking into tickets etc. now. OH JOY! Love Paz On May 29, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: The only thing I'm disappointed about is that it sounds like Herbie Hancock and Esperanza Spalding will only be at the concert on Wednesday, June 19 and it looks like most of us have bought tickets for Tuesday the 18th. I do hope someone will represent us on the 19th. > ________________________________ > From: Michael quebec > To: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19:08 PM > Subject: Joni Luminato taking shape > > > Wow, this is going to be a LOVEFEST ! > > look who's comin so far ... > Joni Mitchell will also attend the world premiere of JONI: A PORTRAIT IN SONG > - A BIRTHDAY HAPPENING LIVE AT MASSEY HALL > , a celebration of her artistry and > her upcoming 70th birthday > on Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19. New > additions to the > all-star lineup of musicians and vocalists interpreting the > songs of > this brilliantly original artist include American jazz/R&B singer > and composer Lizz Wright and singer-songwriter and musician Kathleen Edwards > joining the previously announced line-up of multiple Grammy Award-winner Chaka > Khan; Grammy, Tony and Academy Award-winner Glen Hansard (Once); and acclaimed > singer/songwriter and Festival fave, Rufus Wainwright. In addition, musician > and actor Liam Titcomb > and singer-songwriter Cold Specks will each perform > one song on each evening; and Grammy Award-winning jazz bassist and singer > Esperanza Spalding and 14-time Grammy Award-winning icon Herbie Hancock > (River: The Joni Letters) will both perform June 19. > > Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:42:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Loved this. Thanks for sharing! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com The Paz Group Audio/Video/Lighting Design & Installation Complete Event Production Services Artist, Tour, and Production Management michael@thepazgroup.com Contact-504-382-0343 Home Office-985-764-0395 On May 29, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Corey Blake wrote: A lot of the tech stuff goes over my head but what I do understand is fascinating. Thanks for this! On May 29, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum > > The piano that was used was a 7 foot 1903 Steinway which was a reddish brown color and used on all the Joni sessions as well as Carol King "Tapestry" and many other classic records. > Vocals were always recorded the same way, Neumann u87 into the console with an urei 1176 comp, and at A&M there was a mic locker with 48 U87's. Joni's reserved one was #8.... Karen Carpenter always had #10 reserved.> > > So little is known about Joni's sessions, since it was usually just her and Henry Lewy, that I found this level of detail quite revealing. She played the same piano as was used on Tapestry, always used the same signal path for her voice and the same exact mic with her name on it. > > Love this stuff :-) > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:39:26 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. In her book "A Natural Woman" Carole King writes about the studio, Joni and that Steinway piano: http://goo.gl/L4zVT (page from book in image format at Google Books) book: http://www.amazon.com/A-Natural-Woman-Memoir/dp/B00CNKQ67Q/ref=nosim/cagnlace00/ moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:32:50 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Those links are not working, Moni. Any chance of a synopsis? On May 30, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > In her book "A Natural Woman" Carole King writes about the studio, Joni and that Steinway piano: > > http://goo.gl/L4zVT > (page from book in image format at Google Books) > > book: http://www.amazon.com/A-Natural-Woman-Memoir/dp/B00CNKQ67Q/ref=nosim/cagnlace00/ > > > moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 20:10:48 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Techie geeks, you'll like this. I'm sure you love that they are MAC friendly, Dave! :-) very cool! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:49 PM To: Anita Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Though no specific Joni mentions this might interest some to see the rooms where Joni recorded, now very remodeled of course: http://www.amstudios.net/ It was originally bought by Charlie Chaplin to be his personal creative center and housed two sound stages. In 1968 Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss formed A&M and bought the property. Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66 were the first artists to record there. It is now called Henson Studios http://www.hensonrecording.com/studioa.html and I just last week had the pleasure of mastering a CD recorded there. If I unearth more specific Joni related studio facts I'll post them. Dave On May 30, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Anita wrote: > Her sessions, however are basically fresh ground >> except for the details she has slipped (crickets, cigarette machines etc. > Bob > > What a great idea for research! Someone should certainly see this as an angle. It would be great to hear from the engineers and I'd love to hear more about what went on during the recording of DED. I wondered also what happened to that 1903 piano? Is there any clue about that, Dave? > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:16:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Judy Collins article, Montreal Gazette, sjc Catherine - thanks for this article, I just got to it and learned a lot. She came to town a couple years back in a small intimate local venue and I missed it. A regret. Of course, her recording of BSN set off an EXPLOSION of duplications, I'm not sure that Joni's recording in and of itself would have had the same effect. We're now over 900 covers of the franchise! Bob From: Catherine McKay To: Jonilist Date: 05/29/2013 07:47 AM Subject: Judy Collins article, Montreal Gazette, sjc Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org There's a scant Joni mention in the article linked below. See first two paragraphs for that. Further on, Judy's comments on the music industry and why she created her own label sound similar to Joni's: http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/Judy+Collins+Blue+eyes+wide+open/8440395/story.html - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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If I unearth more specific Joni related studio facts I'll post them. Dave On May 30, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Anita wrote: > Her sessions, however are basically fresh ground >> except for the details she has slipped (crickets, cigarette machines etc. > Bob > > What a great idea for research! Someone should certainly see this as an angle. It would be great to hear from the engineers and I'd love to hear more about what went on during the recording of DED. I wondered also what happened to that 1903 piano? Is there any clue about that, Dave? > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 16:31:07 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Wow, I always thought it sounded like a black piano :) If you go to mixonline.com and search "Joni Mitchell" a bunch of stuff comes up. Most are just asides and mentions, but there is stuff about Herbie's "River" tribute, a Klein interview and more. It would be nice as Mr. Muller says, to know more about her sessions from a technical viewpoint. Regarding her mic of choice, two references. It doesn't specifically say that the Telefunken was used as a vocal mic. I'm kind of assuming that's what was meant. I picked out a few references from the site. Lewy always liked to use a U87 on Joni Mitchells lead vocal; http://mixonline.com/recording/tracking/classic_tracks_stephen_bishop_on_on//index1.html Toni Fishman of Telefunken USA recognized this and decided to develop a reissue. His business first developed identical replacement parts for vintage 251s. A chance meeting with Allen Sides in Nashville resulted in Sides telling Fishman that there was one particular mic in his collection of more than 20 vintage 251s that was consistently used by Joni Mitchell for many of her classic recordings. http://mixonline.com/products/review/audio_telefunken_ela/ John Shanks on Henson Studios Studio C: for the most part, Studio C is a very small environment. It's where Joni Mitchell's Blue and Carole King's Tapestry were done. It's a very small live room, small control room, so it's great for a more controlled environment when you're writing and recording songs because you can focus on each aspect of the recording process. http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_john_shanks_midas/ Klein on recording with Joni and Iron Eyes Cody: http://mixonline.com/recording/interviews/audio_larry_klein_doing/ Stephen Barncard on recording David Crosby's "Laughing": Barncard kept each vocal stack on a separate track. By the time Mitchell's small but still important vocal contribution to the song's bridge was recorded late in the process, Barncard had run out of free tracks, so I punched in Joni's double of In the sun on one of Phil [Lesh]'s two bass tracks for the duration of her part and compensated the level during the mix. http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_david_crosbys_laughing/ From: "Dave Blackburn" Subject: Techie geeks, you'll like this. > This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum > done, never did have a tube console, the rooms Joni worked in had Haeco > consoles hand built by Howard Holzer and Beno May. The recordings after > "Don Juan's reckless daughter" were done on an API 32/16/24 in either > studo b or c at A&M. These Records were made with Henry Lewy until the > recording of "Dog eat Dog" which was done other places including her home > studio. > The piano that was used was a 7 foot 1903 Steinway which was a reddish > brown color and used on all the Joni sessions as well as Carol King > "Tapestry" and many other classic records. > Vocals were always recorded the same way, Neumann u87 into the console > with an urei 1176 comp, and at A&M there was a mic locker with 48 U87's. > Joni's reserved one was #8.... Karen Carpenter always had #10 reserved.> ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #640 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------