From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #453 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 7 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 453 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni in the Morning (now njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni in the Morning (now njc) [Anita G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:20:51 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Joni in the Morning (now njc) Based on my experiences, this really seems less medical and more common sense. I mean, how long have we heard "music has charms to soothe the savage beast". I've used music to put me in a certain mood or get me out of one for years as I'm sure we all have. "As an aid to social bonding"...LOL, anyone who's been to a Jonifest can attest to that. Heck, anytime you group-sing "Happy Birthday" to someone it makes everyone feel good. I can't recount how many times I've been in a concert audience and bonded with the people around me, high-fiving and such. What interests me is the studies they're doing with music and dementia patients. When patients hear familiar songs, they become responsive, smile, move and in general respond better because the music brings them back to a happier time in their mind. In a similar study, I've read that one of the best things you can do to prevent the onset of Alzheimer's and dementia is to learn an instrument because it activates a whole different part of your brain that otherwise can atrophy when your days are only routine. As for the Joni mention, I don't see it as pro or anti. I think since it's a Canadian media, they go to one of their own that's instantly familiar. I did think it was humorous that they would prescribe Joni for depression. If they picked the wrong songs, the depressed patient might want to off himself immediately. It would take a good combination of Joniphile and practitioner to prescribe just the right song combination to properly medicate someone. :-) Bob From: Anita G To: jonipeople LIST Date: 04/03/2013 11:24 AM Subject: RE: Joni in the Morning (now njc) Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org On 03/04/2013, Les Irvin wrote: > try this: > http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2013/04/01/health-music-as-medicine-levitin.html > Thanks, Les, this link worked well. It seems to be coming from a place where the total remedy for depression/sadness/grief isn't necessarily always to pop a pill and is very positive about music as healing - though the quote about Joni I find confusing. What does that mean about people controlling what they listen to? I couldn't quite work out if this quote is pro Joni or anti or is a Joni Mitchell a new name for some new drug? "Rather than the doctor saying, 'Oh, you've got depression take two Joni Mitchells and call me in the morning,' I think what we need to have is recognition that people need to have control over what they are listening to." Anyone else confused or can explain? Anita - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:15:57 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Joni in the Morning (now njc) Hi Kate I was most interested in reading this, but the link didn't work from here. Is there another one that might work? I am deeply concerned about the pathologising of so many aspects of our human experience. Over here in the UK this Sunday I listened to a programme which indicates that The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is going to introduce a new analysis of symptoms of grief, so that too becomes a 'disorder'. The programme info says: "Are the intense feelings most people experience after the death of a loved one misery or melancholia? That is the ongoing debate, the result of which will have an impact on millions of people and our understanding of a fundamental human reaction. In a post-Prozac world, when normal becomes abnormal, medication generally follows. An estimated 8 to 10 million people lose a loved one every year and something like a third to a half of them suffer depressive symptoms for up to a month afterward. How much does the pharmaceutical industry stand to benefit if an extra 5 million people a year are prescribed anti-depressants?" My guess is that they stand to make a lot of money from pathologising grief. I would so much rather take two Joni Mitchells any day, so I would be interested in reading/hearing this, Kate, thanks, if you can, Anita Mat13, Kate Johnson wrote: > "Rather than the doctor saying, 'Oh, you've got depression b take two Joni > Mitchells and call me in the morning,' I think what we need to have is > recognition that people need to have control over what they are listening > to." > > From a newstory here: > http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2013/04/01/health-music-as-medicine-levit > in.html > Music as medicine has huge potential, study suggests > > b ?b > 1b .b ?b > 1b .b ?b > 1b . > Stubblejumpin'Gal > http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com > > Follow me on Twitter: > https://twitter.com/#!/blondiblathers ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #453 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------