From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #400 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 28 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 400 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- PazFest III [Michael Paz ] Re: Made my day [Anita G ] Re: Thanks for writing, njc PS [Catherine McKay ] Re: Thanks for writing, njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] (NJC) Morgellons Disease Conference [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Thanks for writing, njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Thanks for writing, njc [Catherine McKay ] Periodic Joni Fun [Mary Morris ] Re: Thanks for writing, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Made my day [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Made my day [Laura Stanley ] Joni Mitchell Interview [Jack Merkel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:08:56 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: PazFest III Hi Everyone- It is with great disappointment that I report to you all that I am not able to host PazFest III In New Orleans on Labor Day weekend as was rumored by me. Too many things working against me for that weekend. I am however looking into doing something in October and will let you know as soon as I can get something together. The next PazFest will be totally different from the last one as I will be using a rental property in the historic French Quarter of New Orleans to house many of my guests and to have community meals and performances at this location. It has a main house with 2 bedrooms and then 4 cottages (2 Two-Bedroom, and 2 One-Bedroom Studio units). All of the units have kitchens so we can get really creative with the group meals. The place also has a private room that is big enough for us to have our performances in and private gatherings that would be JMDL only. I will still host an ALL STAR tribute show at the Howlin' Wolf as a fundraiser for the Ruth Paz Hospital as we continue to struggle to make ends meet and keep the doors open to the poor in Honduras. That said, I would like to gauge who would be interested in doing this in October. I will still have a Hotel option in the FQ for around $99 per night. The cottages will rent for $300 per night for the two-bedrooms and $150 for the one bedroom studio units. There is $700 charge for the rest of the house and courtyard and performance space. I was thinking of converting either the living room or the dining room into a bedroom for 2-4 more people on a budget kinda thing but have not firmed up those details as yet. If I do that then the balance of what is left from the $700 would be divided amongst all of the attendees equally. I have a pdf of the property if you would like to see it. Contact me privately if you are interested. I will create a yahoo group or facebook page for the people that are interested as to not tie up the bandwidth here. Please let me know your thoughts and ideas and who is interested in helping to organize it. Looking forward to a big old Joni Party! I am posting this on the jmdl as well as the facebook page. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:14:28 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Made my day On 27/03/2013, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > Yes indeed - I too found it very touching. She also sent me scans of the > front and back of the record jacket. Sometimes the world seems a very > small and kind place. A very good place for me to start today, Bob, Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:44:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc PS When I was working, our director tried to implement "No email" days because he wanted people to get up and talk to each other or at least phone one another. It didn't work out all that well. For my part, because I'm lazy (and this is probably true of others as well), if I had to get up and walk to someone's desk to ask them a question or talk to them about something and then got there and found out they weren't there, or were already on the phone, then I'd think it was a bit of a waste of everyone's time. Plus I'd probably have forgotten what I wanted to talk to them about if I didn't put it in writing right away! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:45:06 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc In the USA it costs more to make a penny and a nickel than they are worth. AND WE ARE STILL MAKING THEM. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:32:53 -0400 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: (NJC) Morgellons Disease Conference I just received an email from www.thecehf.org, subject "The 6th Annual Morgellons Disease Conference - Regular Registration Closes on March 31st." I've never signed up to receive emails from this organization. Obviously, someone is snooping my Gmail account and has seen emails about Joni's problems with Morgellons disease. I'm about fed up with the intrusiveness of Google and the internet. Has anyone else received this invitation? Just curious. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:04:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc That's a part of it...but the culture is changing so fast. In terms of writing, I haven't sent out a handwritten letter in I don't know when. Schools will drop teaching cursive writing if they haven't already. Wristwatches and learning to tell time by the long and short hand? That'll go. One of my co-workers, 2 cubes down, asks me questions by using our lotus notes sametime system. I'll either holler the answer over or get up and go tell her. She'll sametime back a "thank you". WTF. My wife, like Joni's teacher Ray's Dad, teaches Math. Last week she had a problem involving coins (how many coin combinations can total 21 cents?) and a couple of kids needed explanation because they aren't familiar with coins - they never use them. How long before we use our phones for purchasing everything, for doing EVERYTHING? I still haven't upgraded to a modern phone - I have an old school cell that I can talk and text with, that's all I need it for. Oh, and for telling time. There's an ad campaign out now for the USPS...we're supposed to tell our congressman how important Saturday mail delivery is to us. Heck, the USPS could deliver to me once a week and I'm happy as a clam in the mud. Everyday mail delivery is actually a hassle because it's 95% junk. I haven't walked into a record store in over a year after going to them on a weekly basis for the last 40 years, and I'm consuming more music than ever. One of our brick and mortar stores just relocated to smaller quarters and I don't see them around in a year. The other one is attached to a restaurant that pretty much keeps the record store going - that and the comeback of vinyl, but how long will that last? Not a rant, just a ramble...like the commercial said, life comes at you fast. Bob From: Catherine McKay To: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" , JMDL Date: 03/26/2013 11:29 PM Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Yup. The world is truly going to hell in a handbasket. No one cain't rite no more! I think the bar has been lowered. >________________________________ > From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" >To: JMDL >Cc: Catherine McKay >Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:07:02 PM >Subject: Thanks for writing, njc > >I have been reading blogs about database design tonight, and it has made me appreciate the jmdl more. > >Most of them cannot write! They string together 3 thoughts in one sentence, for example. Some never capitalize. They use words like "thats". > >I can excuse the non-native writers but not everyone. It amazes me that technical people can be so helpless. It takes twice as long as it should to process each post because it is not written in English. I have to translate first! > >Jim L - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc Bread and circusses/circuses/circi? >________________________________ > From: Anita >To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >Cc: JMDL >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:31:36 PM >Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc > >Here I go Bob on my rant of the day - English football. The Royal Bank of Scotland, bailed out by taxpayers to the tune of B#45 billion and given liquidity support backs Liverpool football club (total debt B#192,000,000 and paying their top player Stevie Gerrard B#140,000 A WEEK). RBS owned by us tax payers. I just don't get it. And they won't lend a penny to small businesses. It's so mad I can't believe it. >Anita > >On 27 Mar 2013, at 19:45, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > >> In the USA it costs more to make a penny and a nickel than they are worth. >> >> AND WE ARE STILL MAKING THEM. >> >> Bob >> - ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >> this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >> contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. >> >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >> - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:55:29 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: Periodic Joni Fun I have been loving all those posts about Joni's use of some periodic elements & I have to admit I never thought of her lyrics that way. I had a coffee break so I did some thinking & yes, some searching. Here are mentions of "gold" & "silver" : Midnight Cowboy : "With a calendar full of gold" Furry Sings The Blues: "Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth caps In the grey decay" Old Friends: "No hearts of gold" Gold & Silver: Born to Take the Highway: " ... I've been Anything is what I've seen Gambler's gold is made for squandering Miser's silver is to hoard My gold as the sky goes wandering My silver is the drinking gourd My ..." The Dawntreader : "He stakes all his silver" Carey: "And I'll put on some silver" Did someone already find this ? Probably. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:37:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc My kids have difficulty telling time from an old-style clock. My daughter communicates with some of her friends entirely through text messages. When she does anything handwritten, she usually prints, since she never really learned cursive writing very well. My son is the opposite: his cursive writing, even though it's not all that good, is much more legible than his printing. I rarely handwrite anything anymore either and it feels strange when I do. But that doesn't excuse poor spelling and grammar. As for cell phones, I have one that is probably five years old and I rarely use it. I don't intend to upgrade it until it breaks and maybe not even then, since I don't use the phone much at all anyway (any kind of phone), so it's a waste of money. I'm sure if I paid by the call, my phone bill would be a lot less than it is now. I still have a landline, but I think I'm paying for nothing in some ways and yet the quality of sound is much better than on cell phones. I can't see paying $500 for an Iphone though or getting one cheaper but only if I sign up for a contract that lasts years and includes my soul as part of the price. I'm often amazed at how many people are walking around with very expensive smart phones but my sister made a point that makes sense to me: a lot of these kids can't afford to own anything and owning a house is pretty much an impossible dream around here, so why not spend your money on a phone? In Canada, we've done away with the penny and they're supposed to round up or down if you pay by cash, but some stores are still giving you pennies. Someone gave me a penny in the change the other day and I asked, "Are you guys still using pennies?" The person said, "Yeah, we're trying to get rid of them," and I said, "So am I!" and we both had a good laugh over that. I'm sure that soon we'll have microchips embedded in our bodies that will be used to pay for things and to be paid. Canada did away with Saturday postal delivery years ago and there are times I wonder why anyone uses mail anymore, but I kind of miss writing and getting letters, because somehow email just isn't the same. OK, that's it, I'm so old now that I'm playing the, "Remember the good old days?" game. >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" ; JMDL >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:04:43 PM >Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc > > >That's a part of it...but the culture is changing so fast. In terms of writing, I haven't sent out a handwritten letter in I don't know when. Schools will drop teaching cursive writing if they haven't already. Wristwatches and learning to tell time by the long and short hand? That'll go. One of my co-workers, 2 cubes down, asks me questions by using our lotus notes sametime system. I'll either holler the answer over or get up and go tell her. She'll sametime back a "thank you". WTF. > >My wife, like Joni's teacher Ray's Dad, teaches Math. Last week she had a problem involving coins (how many coin combinations can total 21 cents?) and a couple of kids needed explanation because they aren't familiar with coins - they never use them. How long before we use our phones for purchasing everything, for doing EVERYTHING? I still haven't upgraded to a modern phone - I have an old school cell that I can talk and text with, that's all I need it for. Oh, and for telling time. > >There's an ad campaign out now for the USPS...we're supposed to tell our congressman how important Saturday mail delivery is to us. Heck, the USPS could deliver to me once a week and I'm happy as a clam in the mud. Everyday mail delivery is actually a hassle because it's 95% junk. > >I haven't walked into a record store in over a year after going to them on a weekly basis for the last 40 years, and I'm consuming more music than ever. One of our brick and mortar stores just relocated to smaller quarters and I don't see them around in a year. The other one is attached to a restaurant that pretty much keeps the record store going - that and the comeback of vinyl, but how long will that last? > >Not a rant, just a ramble...like the commercial said, life comes at you fast. > >Bob > > > > >From: Catherine McKay >To: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" , JMDL >Date: 03/26/2013 11:29 PM >Subject: Re: Thanks for writing, njc >Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org >>________________________________ > > > >Yup. The world is truly going to hell in a handbasket. No one cain't rite no >more! > >I think the bar has been lowered. >>________________________________ >> From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" > >>To: JMDL >>Cc: Catherine McKay > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:07:02 PM >>Subject: >Thanks for writing, njc >> >>I have been reading blogs about database design >tonight, and it has made me appreciate the jmdl more. >> >>Most of them cannot >write! They string together 3 thoughts in one sentence, for example. Some >never capitalize. They use words like "thats". >> >>I can excuse the non-native >writers but not everyone. It amazes me that technical people can be so >helpless. It takes twice as long as it should to process each post because it >is not written in English. I have to translate first! >> >>Jim L > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:05:15 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Made my day Yes indeed - I too found it very touching. She also sent me scans of the front and back of the record jacket. Sometimes the world seems a very small and kind place. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:39:07 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Made my day Beautiful! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Yes indeed - I too found it very touching. She also sent me scans of the > front and back of the record jacket. Sometimes the world seems a very > small and kind place. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:43:17 -0500 From: Jack Merkel Subject: Joni Mitchell Interview I've talked about this interview before but just wanted to let everyone know that friend has posted the whole thing on Youtube. In 3 parts. This is a really rare interview Joni did for a cable access show called Quintessential Covina. I hope you enjoy it. Les, I think he was going to contact you about putting it on JM.com. Look for it on the bQuintcovinab channel. Jack ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #400 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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