From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #386 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 21 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 386 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- http://real21.org/h/phpmailer/svrdm.html [J Kendel Johnson ] Re: the woodstock we attend (NJC) [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Luminato Joni tribute [Michael quebec ] Woodstock revisionist history [Paul Ivice ] Re: Woodstock revisionist history [Shari Eaton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: http://real21.org/h/phpmailer/svrdm.html http://thegraze.net/presskit/haxcu.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:17:01 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: Art Nouveau Gordon, I find this fascinating and creative. . . interesting. Thank you. And I believe joni said that she has been a man in her past lives And this was the first time she was a woman. Perhaps someone can help to reference this. Marianne > > > > From: Gordon MacKie > Subject: Art Nouveau > > Hi All- greetings from lurkdom. > > This may have been well discussed but just in case .see below. Not read it yet. > > Genders Issue 56, Fall 2012 > > The Only Black Man at the Party > Joni Mitchell Enters the Rock Canon > > By MILES PARKS GRIER > > http://www.genders.org/g56/g56_grier.html > > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:42:47 -0400 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: the woodstock we attend (NJC) > We had many things (ideas) right in the '60s, and we won some > battles, with the Clean Air and Water Acts and to a lesser extent > with Vietnam. But it also appears we lost the larger war. Kevin, I agree with everything you wrote. I have a friend on Facebook -- someone I've known since high school -- who is going off on me right now for "escaping" the "reality" of today's life. She chooses to protest in the streets of Oakland almost daily under the auspices of the Occupy movement, and she gets into fights with police, gets arrested, has watched her teenage daughter be arrested and jailed, tells me I should buy into the concept of owning a gun "for protection from the police." I get all of those things, but what she is fighting against is so huge and out of control, there is no winning that war. I choose to create my own reality, and I choose to not live in a violent world with corrupt police and a government that is controlled by corporations. I left the US for almost an entire year, and I have just returned. I haven't left my brother's house in Ohio in two weeks except to visit other family or attend my niece's Science Fair at her school, but I still don't like the vibe in the US. There is too much excess, too much of a disconnect from anything REAL. Tonnes of processed food, too much vacuous "entertainment" ... it's not healthy and it's boring. I am heading to Idaho soon, to my best friend's home where most of my worldly possessions are stored. I will go through those things, sell or donate what I can, and then I'm off again ... either out of the country or, possibly, to a successful commune that has existed since 1972. www.eastwind.org ... I was accepted there for a three week working visit last year, but I postponed that visit when Romney chose Ryan as his running mate. There was no way I was going to return to the US if Romney won the election. Thankfully, he didn't. Still, things in the US are not going the way I'd like to see them go. President Obama, while a far better option than Romney, is still part and parcel of the corporate madness. The US Congress, for the most part, is a mess. The few Senators and Representatives there who are really trying to fight the madness are up against a machine they cannot defeat. I don't think we can reverse the damage to the climate at this point. With a limited amount of years of my own life left -- whether I live for 30 more years or just another day -- I am choosing to create my own reality. I will be happy to have any of my family and friends along if they should choose to participate in that reality. Otherwise, all I can do anymore is take care of myself. It's really all any of us can do. I have stopped drinking alcohol, I have stopped smoking weed, I am not doing any drugs except for nasal snuff (which is tobacco) and drinking regular tea, so I am clear and as grounded as I can be at this point. There is no Utopia, there is no Paradise, there is only the best reality I can create for myself. No Joni content here, so adding the NJC tag. Thanks for the "listen". Peace to everyone. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 02:39:22 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: Re: Luminato Joni tribute Hi, I just got ourselves a couple of package deals to see some shows at the Luminato event. My partner and I will be there on opening night for the Joni tribute, God willing. It's been years since I've stepped foot in Toronto. I'm looking forward to it, and I hope to meet up with some other listers there, maybe a pre-show drink or meal ? Michael in Quebec Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato Joni tribute - Tickets for Joni portrait concerts Luminato has just announced that Chaka Khan will be part of the concert. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 04:45:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Woodstock revisionist history From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: the woodstock we attend People may express incredulity at Joni not having been at Woodstock, but I can't help wondering if Woodstock would really have 'been' without Joni Mitchellb&b&I wonder if what she encapsulated from her inner spirit into the song woodstock wasn't the 'real' woodstock that people think of when thy think they're thinking of the festival. What would have made it not just be another rained out festival that blended with others around the country. I don't know much about what was unique to the actual event but I certainly don't think it would have lived on in our imagination if it wasn't for joni's Woodstock song. I don't think that Joni 'WASN'T AT' Woodstockb&.I don't think she has missed out. Instead I think it is Joni's Woodstock that the generations including her own have really attendedb&..her song: that that is where the real ongoing magic emanates from. She has evoked the attributes of the Festival, not with her memory, but with her creative spirit. Ingrid Ingrid, Written like a true Joni fan. I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't think what you suggest is true at all. Joni's song may have put a bow on the gift of Woodstock, but the festival was big news at the time, before the song became part of the national landscape, and the "Three Days of Peace, Love & Music" would have been historic without her song for a number of reasons. Personally, I think it was probably a good thing for Joni that she didn't get to the festival and appeared on the Dick Cavett Show instead. I think her music at the time might have been overwhelmed by the enormity of the event, and the external perspective she had helped her write a better song than what she would have come up with if she had actually been there. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:06:41 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Woodstock revisionist history "Personally, I think it was probably a good thing for Joni that she didn't get to the festival and appeared on the Dick Cavett Show instead. I think her music at the time might have been overwhelmed by the enormity of the event, and the external perspective she had helped her write a better song than what she would have come up with if she had actually been there." I got the sense that Crosby understood this. Shari On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > I think her > music at the time might have been overwhelmed by the enormity of the > event,> > > Which was certainly the case at the similar Isle of Wight Festival. She > wasn't able to get the intimacy she wanted and launched into the whole > "you're acting like a bunch of tourists" speech. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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