From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #383 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe:mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website:http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 19 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 383 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: the woodstock we attend [Shari Eaton ] Re: Luminato Joni tribute - Tickets for Joni portrait concerts [Catherine] Re: the woodstock we attend [Anita G ] Re: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now ["Mark" ] RE: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now ["Rob Argento" Subject: Re: the woodstock we attend Gave me goosebumps to read your added verse. What grand fortune to hear the song live in that rich moment. To sing in chorus, coated in her musical molasses. Thank you for sharing. On Mar 18, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Anita G wrote: > On 18/03/2013, Shari Eaton wrote: > Her howls ring through us all. > I am always struck by Joni's later live renditions of 'Woodstock' on > the guitar, which sound so bleak. After seeing her perform it as an > encore at the Edmonton Folk Festival in 1994, I wrote my own final > verse to an arrangement I did (which I know a lot of you know), but > you may not know it, Shari, but it goes: > > "I saw Joni sing one August > It was twenty five years on > And this song cracked through the night air > On the whip lash of her tongue. > The chords rang hard and cynical > Soft grey clouds hung in her eyes > But I could still see butterflies > Through Canadian twilight > > And we sang > We're stardust etc." > > I thought Joni was howling that night > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato Joni tribute - Tickets for Joni portrait concerts Luminato has just announced that Chaka Khan will be part of the concert. >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: Joni List >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:47:26 AM >Subject: Luminato Joni tribute - Tickets for Joni portrait concerts > >I've been having some frustration with the luminato.com website, trying to >find out info on when tickets will be on sale, and how much they will be. I >still don't know how much individual tickets will be, but at least I've >confirmed that you can only buy tickets now, if you're purchasing their >three-event package (today if you have a particular credit card, and Wednesday >for anyone else but, I repeat, only if you're purchasing the three events - >Joni tribute, opera and ballet.) > >For those of us who are only wanting to get >tickets to the concert, these will be on sale on Saturday, April 20. >Unfortunately they didn't respond to my other question: how much will these >tickets be? It's difficult to know whether they're evading my questionbecause >they don't know yet, or if it's one of those situations where they answer only >one question, which I find an increasingly frequent frustration when >addressing questions to customer service types. > > >Just forwarding this for >anyone who wants to know. I recall running into this same confusion last year >when I was trying to get a ticket for the Kate McGarrigle tribute. > >Whinily >yours, > >Catherine > > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- >>From: Tickets > >>To: Catherine McKay ; Tickets > >> >>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:07:36 AM >>Subject: >RE: Tickets for Joni portrait concerts >> >> >> >>Dear Catherine, >> >>Thank you >for your email and interest in Luminato. >> >>Starting at noon today, tickets >for the Premiere Series package, of which the Joni Mitchell tribute concert is >part of, will go on sale. Tickets must be purchased for all three events as >listed. >> >>Tickets for all individual events, including the Joni Mitchell >tribute concert, will go on sale at 12noon, on Saturday April 20, 2013. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Luminato Ticketing >> >> >>From:Catherine McKay >[mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] >>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:08 AM >>To: >Tickets >>Cc: C McKay >>Subject: Tickets for Joni portrait concerts >> >>I'm >having difficulty finding the right info on your website and by calling the >tickets line and have some questions regarding the "Joni" event at this year's >festival. >> >>For tickets, are they only available this week for people who >want to purchase the three-events package? Will individual tickets for the >Joni concert be available on the same day? If not, when? And do you have the >prices for these, if they are available on a concert-by-concert basis? I feel >like I'm being led around in circles on the website when I click for "more >info". >> >>I'm a subscriber to Luminato but also a member of the Joni Mitchell >discussion list (jmdl) and the website Jonimitchell.com. >> >>I know there are >quite a few people who are members of the jmdl who would like to attend, many >of whom would be coming from outside Canada, and it would be helpful to us to >know this, and I would pass the info on to the members as well. >> >>Thanks for >any information you can provide. >> >>Catherine McKay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:38:31 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: the woodstock we attend On 18/03/2013, Shari Eaton wrote: Her howls ring through us all. > I am always struck by Joni's later live renditions of 'Woodstock' on the guitar, which sound so bleak. After seeing her perform it as an encore at the Edmonton Folk Festival in 1994, I wrote my own final verse to an arrangement I did (which I know a lot of you know), but you may not know it, Shari, but it goes: "I saw Joni sing one August It was twenty five years on And this song cracked through the night air On the whip lash of her tongue. The chords rang hard and cynical Soft grey clouds hung in her eyes But I could still see butterflies Through Canadian twilight And we sang We're stardust etc." I thought Joni was howling that night Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:29:00 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now Estrella Bersoni lived down there before she became a Lady of the Canyon and played the Flick. She tells a great story about Joni playing there after she split up with Chuck. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Em Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:33 AM To: est86mlm@ameritech.net ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now wow, viewing that gave a me a case of both the saddened and gladdened, simultaneously. I had a feeling after a while viewing that, that Gamble Rogers's face would appear. I had the good luck to get to see him a large handful of times here in Florida, from the mid-70's on through the early 80's I guess. What a trip that dude was, and what wonderful playing and singing and story telling. He's greatly missed here in Floriduh. He's probably one of the very best guitarists I've ever had the privilege to see and hear up close in a tiny club setting. I've mentioned this before, but I think it would be really cool if someone wrote a book about the south Florida folk scene of that time that The Flick was open. Evidently, I guess it drew a great many people. But when "folk scenes" are mentioned, Florida doesn't really come up except as a sentence or two in someone's biography. It would be really interesting to be able to get a sense of what life was like in that scene. Anyway, thanks to whoever put that vid on the JMDL. :) Em PS and thanks Laura for drawing my attention to it ________________________________ From: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" To: "joni@smoe.org" ; shari@sharieaton.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:47 PM Subject: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question Check-out THE FLICK video here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=156 Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:12:29 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: the woodstock we attend Really enjoying the sentiment of this post. Joni really was the intended spirit guide for Woodstock. Scheduling difficulties aside. It's a bit like her inability to be the mother of her own child. Or the lover to her mate. She has been afflicted with deep longing and it was expressed so extraordinarily. Her howls ring through us all. On Mar 18, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > I think you are so right on with this assessment, Ingrid. Lots of people > who don't know the story believe that Joni was at Woodstock. Lots of > people who don't know better think that the song was written by CSNY > because it was such a hit for them. > > But yeah ... Joni was a big part of the spirit of Woodstock, even though > she was (if my memory serves) stuck in a motel room prior to going on Dick > Cavett's show. She captured the spirit of those days beautifully and made > that spirit immortal with her song. > > I loved being at A Day in the Garden in 1998 and hearing Joni say, when she > took the stage, "It took me 29 years to get here ..." As far as I'm > concerned, though, she was there all along. > > Lori > still in Ohio where it's raining > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Ingrid Lochrenberg > wrote: > >> People may express incredulity at Joni not having been at Woodstock, but I >> can't help wondering if Woodstock would really have 'been' without Joni >> Mitchellb&b&I wonder if what she encapsulated from her inner spirit into >> the song woodstock wasn't the 'real' woodstock that people think of when >> thy think they're thinking of the festival. What would have made it not >> just be another rained out festival that blended with others around the >> country. I don't know much about what was unique to the actual event but I >> certainly don't think it would have lived on in our imagination if it >> wasn't for joni's Woodstock song. I don't think that Joni 'WASN'T AT' >> Woodstockb&.I don't think she has missed out. Instead I think it is Joni's >> Woodstock that the generations including her own have really >> attendedb&..her song: that that is where the real ongoing magic emanates >> from. She has evoked the attributes of the Festival, not with her memory, >> but with her creative spirit. >> >> Ingrid > > > > -- > If there are lots of typos, I'm emailing from my phone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:51:46 -0400 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now I, too, enjoyed The Flick video. I was a small part of the Miami Folk scene until late 1965 when I was abducted by Uncle Sam, not to return to the USA for the next 35 years! But those early coffee house days were very formative for me and surely for others. There were only a few Coffee houses in Miami those days - The Flick in South Miami and The Euphoria in North Miami were the most dedicated. A few others popped up now and then but never really caught on at least not while I was still in Miami. Later on the Gaslight South opened up and booked many of the well known folk singers but were never centers of "family" as we were at The euphoria and The Flick. The video you mention is one of several submitted to YouTube by "Calico1947". At first I thought it was done by Mike Smith but I could be wrong. Mike continued as a song writer and a very good one at that. You will know him by his full name, Michael Peter Smith. In those early days of The Flick we had mostly local talent. Mike played quite a lot. Ron Kickasola and Bob Ingram were always on the bill. I remember when Estrella first showed up and became a regular, such a young girl sort of under everyone's protective wing. Vince Martin and Freddie Neil were often the headliners. And then there was a young fellow who seemed to bounce between Boston and Miami, a young student at the time, Tom Rush. Boston and Miami were the two terminal cities for the yo-yo ride of the folk performers up and down the East coast. The pay certainly was not very good those days, at least not in money- but in Life Quality, new friends, new music, sharing songs, food and lodgings. This was still the mid 1960's remember and America was still a very straight laced place. Looking at pictures of us back then it is hard to believe that people thought we were sort of weird. Half a decade later things, of course, had REALLY changed but by then I as long gone. Of course, most of the performers in this series of "The Flick" YouTube videos came after I had left. Joni apparently played there for the first time just after I was drafted. As well as Crosby, Buffet and Gambel Rogers. So I never got to see them. But Oz Bach played both the Flick and The Euphoria and in those early years. In fact, for a while, The Euphoria was the only place where he was allowed to play as he was black-listed due to a ridiculous misunderstanding for something he had said about LBJ - and, this being late 1964 or early 1965 relatively shortly after the JFK assassination, when Johnson was to motorcade in Miami, the Secret Service and FBI picked him up. Newspaper headlines and effectively blacklisted. Oz was later in Spanky and Our Gang. This was my first experience with systematic political paranoia affecting people's lives. I feel very lucky, indeed, to have been a part of that time and experience. The late 60's and 70's I was still an American though kicking around Europe, carrying my travlin' guitar, my Martin 0018, purchased used for $90 from an artist at the Euphoria and it still with me today. It was even strummed and picked on the stage of The Flick! Yes, it would be nice if someone had written about the South Florida music scene of those days. Mike Smith may very well have done that. In interviews he says that those 3 years were also for him very important. Those were good days and good memories. Life was good and those experiences became a part of me and enriched my entire life. /Robban in Sweden - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Em Sent: den 18 mars 2013 09:34 To: est86mlm@ameritech.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question NJC now wow, viewing that gave a me a case of both the saddened and gladdened, simultaneously. I had a feeling after a while viewing that, that Gamble Rogers's face would appear. I had the good luck to get to see him a large handful of times here in Florida, from the mid-70's on through the early 80's I guess. What a trip that dude was, and what wonderful playing and singing and story telling. He's greatly missed here in Floriduh. He's probably one of the very best guitarists I've ever had the privilege to see and hear up close in a tiny club setting. I've mentioned this before, but I think it would be really cool if someone wrote a book about the south Florida folk scene of that time that The Flick was open. Evidently, I guess it drew a great many people. But when "folk scenes" are mentioned, Florida doesn't really come up except as a sentence or two in someone's biography. It would be really interesting to be able to get a sense of what life was like in that scene. Anyway, thanks to whoever put that vid on the JMDL. :) Em PS and thanks Laura for drawing my attention to it ________________________________ From: "est86mlm@ameritech.net" To: "joni@smoe.org" ; shari@sharieaton.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:47 PM Subject: Flick Video & Lady of the Canyon question Check-out THE FLICK video here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=156 Laura ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #383 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------